"One less player per expansion board"

By Jumesyn, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

As stated in the Kingsport and Innsmouth rulebooks, the modified number of players are to make things easier for us. Based on Kevin Wilson's answers, I understand that:

Ancient One: Number of successes required are still based on real number of players.

However, I'm still uncertain about many other cases which number of players matter. Please consider X as real number of investigators, while (X-2) the modified number with Dunwich, Kingsport and Innsmouth towns.

Closing Gate Victory: Number of gate trophies = X or (X-2)?

Rumors: e.g. $4 per player on card = $4X or $4(X-2)?

Monster surge (where number of open gates less than (X-2): X monsters or (X-2) monsters?

Please inform me if I missed out any other cases.

An additional question: The first mythos card cannot be a rumor, as stated in the rulebook. However, upon combining expansions, the first mythos card should also not be those without a gate opening, would I be correct in assuming? That is, I should also skip mythos cards such as 'The Next Act Begins', 'No gate open, but a monster surge occurs!' and 'No gate open, but add 2 doom tokens to the doom track."?

Last question: When no gates are open (though investigators have not won due to insufficient gate trophies) and 'No gate open, but a monster surge occurs!' is drawn as a mythos card, do I add all monsters to the outskirts?

Thanks for addressing my questions.

Jumesyn said:

However, I'm still uncertain about many other cases which number of players matter. Please consider X as real number of investigators, while (X-2) the modified number with Dunwich, Kingsport and Innsmouth towns.

Closing Gate Victory: Number of gate trophies = X or (X-2)?

Rumors: e.g. $4 per player on card = $4X or $4(X-2)?

Monster surge (where number of open gates less than (X-2): X monsters or (X-2) monsters?

Please inform me if I missed out any other cases.

Until we get a clarification, only exception ruled on is the final battle portion, so all those would be X-2.

Jumesyn said:

An additional question: The first mythos card cannot be a rumor, as stated in the rulebook. However, upon combining expansions, the first mythos card should also not be those without a gate opening, would I be correct in assuming? That is, I should also skip mythos cards such as 'The Next Act Begins', 'No gate open, but a monster surge occurs!' and 'No gate open, but add 2 doom tokens to the doom track."?

I don't re-draw for anything other than a Rumor on the first Mythos cards. While NAB and Strange Sightings are bit of a blessing (NAB dependant on whether GOO or Herald has an Terror effect), double-doomer as the first card doesn't give much reason to celebrate, since it leaves all locations still available for gates, so doomers guaranteed.

Jumesyn said:

Last question: When no gates are open (though investigators have not won due to insufficient gate trophies) and 'No gate open, but a monster surge occurs!' is drawn as a mythos card, do I add all monsters to the outskirts?

You get a freebie Mythos phase, no different than if the gate would bounce on a seal (which IH was nice enough to fix). I would still activate Shudde M'ell, Abhoth and BGotW Herald, but I'm sadistic demonio.gif .