The Wastes of Eriador

By MyNeighbourTrololo, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

Dear Americans, it is "valoUr" and "honoUr". Although this very software is trying to take to Us out. I am very happy they went with the British spelling (though I'm not one), I had long been bothered by the missing U in the Favour of the Lady.

As for the Honour Guard, his basic response still seems better than the Valour one, though of course it is nice to have that utility. A great card for Tactics. And with the Veteran, the great couple to boost Tactics-Leadership Gondor decks. Boromir!

Finally, I too wonder about the Spirit Noldor thing. But I am so glad they will pay attention to it in this cycle. Of course, Noldor are already strong thanks to Glorindel and Elrond but the number of cards is relatively small. They need more to be better defined.

ps: Has anyone worked out the Door is Closed?

Man when it rains it pours! News on treason, lost realm and now this all so close together! Now we just gotta wait for them to actually come out :P

To be completely honest I'm not really sure what I think of player card side quests yet..... they are going to change the experience of all existing quests a fair bit. They may be less useful for ring maker and VOI considering time counters will still be removed each turn whether you choose the current quest to be the one from the quest deck or a side quest. Both the lore and tactics ones look very powerful as does the neutral one.

The new gondor allies look fantastic art wise and valour is an awesome ability. I really hope a Silvan or Noldor character gets that keyword and not just men. I also really love that as well as valour there will be cards that will instead read "when your threat is 40 or above" and will give you a beneficial effect if it is much like the cycle they did in ring maker that read "Then, if your threat is 20 or less and this is the first time you played a copy of x this round, return this card to your hand instead of discarding it".

All those 1 cost events look VERY interesting as well, especially the tactics one which seems to have a valour action. Judging from its name and flavour that can be seen perhaps it allows you to ready one character? The valour action cannot be seen at all... readying all characters would not fit in that space and would be FAR too good for 1 resource. what could it be?

Surely The Door is Closed reads: Response: After an encounter card is revealed from the encounter deck, cancel its effects and discard it if there is a card with the same title in the victory display.

Also pretty interesting that valour will only appear for leadership and tactics and not the other two spheres but they will get their own new mechanics. I'm looking forward most as far as player cards are concerned to the "new strategy" for the Noldor trait however as it will fit perfectly with my lore/spirit silvan/noldor deck.

I'm looking forward most as far as player cards are concerned to the "new strategy" for the Noldor trait however as it will fit perfectly with my lore/spirit silvan/noldor deck.

How do you know it will fit your lore/spirit silvan/noldor decks perfectly if you don´t know what the cards do yet? ;)

don't fret about high threat.

Well put Tracker! This is valour in a nutshell. And a haiku.

I'm looking forward most as far as player cards are concerned to the "new strategy" for the Noldor trait however as it will fit perfectly with my lore/spirit silvan/noldor deck.

How do you know it will fit your lore/spirit silvan/noldor decks perfectly if you don´t know what the cards do yet? ;)

Good point, just hopeful I guess! :P

ps: Has anyone worked out the Door is Closed?

PS: Has anyone bothered to read the thread yet?

The new gondor allies look fantastic art wise and valour is an awesome ability. I really hope a Silvan or Noldor character gets that keyword and not just men.

Not wanting to sound like an elf-hater, but when exactly did the Elves showed bravery against impossible odds in the trilogy? Mind you, I'm specifically referring to the trilogy, because the game itself is centered around those times. One can argue about Glorfi's stand vs the Nazgul outside Rivendell, but this isn't enough to merit the "Valour" keyword. That one has killed a Balrog single-handedly in ancient times and even the Nazgul feared him. Frankly, the Hobbits merit the keyword much more than the Elves.

Edit: If I had to give the keyword to an Elf, only Legolas would have been a worthy candidate. Only him and for obvious reasons.

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ps: Has anyone worked out the Door is Closed?

PS: Has anyone bothered to read the thread yet?

Probably. Though surely not as many as they would have, had there been less d*cks about.

As for the actual question, it stays. Anyone? Could this really only cancel and discard a card of the same title as the one in VD?

Probably. Though surely not as many as they would have, had there been less d*cks about.

As for the actual question, it stays. Anyone? Could this really only cancel and discard a card of the same title as the one in VD?

Well, keep asking the question that has been answered several times throughout the thread. That'll do. Maybe even some non-dicks pop up and do the reading for you to save your precious five minutes of your most important time.

Probably. Though surely not as many as they would have, had there been less d*cks about.

As for the actual question, it stays. Anyone? Could this really only cancel and discard a card of the same title as the one in VD?

Well, keep asking the question that has been answered several times throughout the thread. That'll do. Maybe even some non-dicks pop up and do the reading for you to save your precious five minutes of your most important time.

You know, another way of saying this is "please see earlier posts in this thread".

Pretty cool stuff, by the looks of it. Nice to see a counterbalance to Secrecy, which pairs nicely with doomed cards. I think we can get to 38 starting threat, if we load up with Elrond, Gandalf and Aragorn (or even Lore Glorfindel...will he make a resurgence...?). So that's only 2 off valouring in the first turn :)

I'll have to wait and see about side-quests. They could be interesting, kinda like player-locations, but I can't think about how they'll work in reality until I try using them. At the very least it's a progression.

Indeed. Yet he did say non-dicks didn't he?

I for one wish there were less people called Richard around here as well. :P

I really like this new keyword. So much of LoTR deck design and game play is about minimising threat. We have had secrecy for a while as well which has kept this idea of low threat in mind as well. I know I personally have always concentrated on low threat. This will open up a ton of new deck building choices as well as allow some new balances in multi-player.

Yeah I think this is a excellent addition and I expect that designing decks for 40+ may lead to a lot of cards getting pulled out of mothballs.

I really like this new keyword. So much of LoTR deck design and game play is about minimising threat. We have had secrecy for a while as well which has kept this idea of low threat in mind as well. I know I personally have always concentrated on low threat. This will open up a ton of new deck building choices as well as allow some new balances in multi-player.

Yeah I think this is a excellent addition and I expect that designing decks for 40+ may lead to a lot of cards getting pulled out of mothballs.

This is exactly why I find the new keyword so cool - it's actively encouraging a shift in play. I know there are people out there who play high-threat decks, but the game has given little encouragement for this generally. Good to see it!

I completely agree. Up until now the designers have tried to punish turtling in stead of encouraging risk-taking. I really like this new shift!

Really cool! That cycle looks much more promising then previous

I really like the new Valour keyword. It feels like something we've been missing.

And...

The most Valorous hero of all...

Grima.

Hmm... Something's not right here.

The most Valorous hero of all...

Grima.

Hmm... Something's not right here.

Just gotta imagine it differently. Grima cooperates with your fellowship but subverts your objectives whenever he can do so without being discovered. As a result, you risk drawing too much of the Enemy's attention, and a little extra Valour is soon required by the other characters in your party...

All those 1 cost events look VERY interesting as well, especially the tactics one which seems to have a valour action. Judging from its name and flavour that can be seen perhaps it allows you to ready one character? The valour action cannot be seen at all... readying all characters would not fit in that space and would be FAR too good for 1 resource. what could it be?

Well the card's name (Hold Your Ground) and art implies defending. I would think it would be something like "Ready one defending character " as the normal action, but as for the Valour action... I don't know. I was thinking that maybe it said something like "Do this action twice" but that wouldn't work because only one character defends at a time... Hmm.

2 bad they didn't spoiled the hero like they did with Celeborn. Hope the next spoil would have some heroic stuff in it, be it the Treason of Saruman or Angmar stuff.

Feels like the Valour mechanic will make Galadriel even more relevant - get to 40, but keep it down after that.

All those 1 cost events look VERY interesting as well, especially the tactics one which seems to have a valour action. Judging from its name and flavour that can be seen perhaps it allows you to ready one character? The valour action cannot be seen at all... readying all characters would not fit in that space and would be FAR too good for 1 resource. what could it be?

Well the card's name (Hold Your Ground) and art implies defending. I would think it would be something like "Ready one defending character " as the normal action, but as for the Valour action... I don't know. I was thinking that maybe it said something like "Do this action twice" but that wouldn't work because only one character defends at a time... Hmm.

If the goal is to support defending, the Valour action could be something like "Target one character, that character does not exhaust to defend this round." Fairly strong, I think, but the 40 threat requirement means your are in the "danger zone" and keeps it from being good with Frodo, at least in the same deck.

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