Hi everyone,

I'm confused about pg. 3 of the Beta update:

"Lightsabers (page 124):

according to the films (and other sources) lightsabers can most definitly be sundered. See below.

in addition, we see in Ep. 2 that Anakin's lightsaber gets crushed by heavy machinery in the droid factory on Geonosis.

This really should be updated to have an exception for other lightsabers, or have a high-tier lightsaber talent or the like. Pretty cut-n-dry

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I believe they're specifically talking about the blades. I'd call cutting a lightsaber hilt in half that doesn't involve also sundering a person's wrist (see Luke) would be double Triumph material.

Interesting. If this is the case, then I'd say that the wording is confusing/misleading at worst IMHO.

Even so, FFG Star Wars does have rules for cortosis, and cortosis blades can absolutely sunder lightsaber blades. Pure cortosis, that is. That's the whole point of using such a material.

as an aside, Non-Jedi characters should have the option to defend themselves with a cortosis blade in the manner shown below.

Thanks.

What they're saying is that you can't use the Sunder weapon quality to spend a mere three advantage to completely destroy a lightsaber. You must spend two triumph to destroy the target's weapon (which can be used regardless of whether you have the Sunder quality).

See the change to p149 in the beta update: "Table 6-2: Spending [AD] and [TR] in Combat (page 149): In the entry for spending [TR][TR], add the following option: “Destroy an engaged opponent’s lightsaber weapon. At the GM’s discretion, the crystal may be salvaged from the destroyed lightsaber and installed in a new hilt, with any modifications intact.”

Compare this to the Sunder weapon quality on page 118: "When activated, the attacker chooses one item openly wielded by the target (such as a weapon, shield, or item on a belt). That item is damaged one step: to minor if undamaged, from minor to moderate, or from moderate to major. If a weapon already suffering major damage is the target of a successful Sunder, it is destroyed. Sunder requires [AD] to activate. If activated multiple times in the same attack, each activation can be applied against the same weapon, potentially taking a weapon from undamaged to destroyed in a single attack."

I guess they were finding it too easy for lightsaber wielders to destroy each other's lightsabers. Since lightsabers have sunder, the optimal combat option would be to destroy your opponent's lightsaber before they could destroy yours. Also, this does not require a hit. Miss with 3 advantage? Destroy your opponent's lightsaber. Seems pretty overpowered considering the cost and/or difficulty to obtain a lightsaber.

Also, this change was done to bring the F&D rules in line with the previous lines. In the EotE core rulebook (page 167), the lightsaber description has the line, "Lightsabers cannot be sundered."

You could also use the aim maneuver to target the lightsaber hilt. I can't tell you what the effect would be though.

You could also use the aim maneuver to target the lightsaber hilt. I can't tell you what the effect would be though.

Probably a damage level, at best. Maybe an extra damage level per triumph.

according to the films (and other sources) lightsabers can most definitly be sundered.

Not anymore - do try and keep up!

I don't care what anybody says. Light-claymores are cool.

I don't care what anybody says. Light-claymores are cool.

I'm holding out. Until I see it in use, I'm not willing to invest any serious emotion either way.

When someone shows up with light chucks...that's where I'll freak.

I don't care what anybody says. Light-claymores are cool.

I'm holding out. Until I see it in use, I'm not willing to invest any serious emotion either way.

When someone shows up with light chucks...that's where I'll freak.

I know there are rules for Cortosis weave armor, but are there rules for cortosis blades yet?

I know there are rules for Cortosis weave armor, but are there rules for cortosis blades yet?

Not for adding the cortosis quality to a weapon, though FaD does have a number of melee weapons that come standard with the cortosis quality.

this was already discussed after the update that added the sunder rule

http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/121695-lets-talk-about-damaging-a-lightsaber/?hl=%2Bsunder+%2Blightsaber