Tie Advanced - how to fix it.

By TheRealStarkiller, in X-Wing

Just because I missed the topic :D

Its been a long, long time....

I think we will see the same answers as before. Personally, I would like to see a negative point title that gives it a system slot and or something that gives PS4 an EPS (but not for the higher skilled pilots like that Droid). Heck I would be happy with a title that gave it a second free action (like when you focus, get an evade token in addition to the focus or vice versa).

Slightly off topic, I went to tourney last weekend, brought Vader and 4 TIEs to the table. I was surprised that in the final round I was going to the championship table. I was even more surprised to sit down across from someone who fielded Vader and 4 TIES.

Vader for the win.

How can we encourage more TIE Advanced fans to play the game? I have not seen many TIE Advanced players at the local gaming nights, and the few times they were there they were mocked and made fun of. It's obvious that there is a problem, because I only see X-wing and TIE Fighter players, but very vew (if any) TIE Advanced players.

Just run a Heavy Laser Cannon on the TIE Advanced. Anyone who says you can't do that, just ignore them.

Give it a title that adds four more missile slots and the ability to fire them all at once Macross style.

House Rules for the win! :P

It makes TIE Advanced playable, especially with Proton Rockets. Set up at range 2-3, get a free TL via FCS, then lay down the hammer at range 1 next turn.

I'm almost certain FFG will have taken care of it and we now just have to wait and see what they have done....

Vader + Engine Upgrade + Opportunist + Proton Rockets is playable.

t's not brilliant, or efficient... but it's playable.

Vader + Engine Upgrade + Opportunist + Proton Rockets is playable.

t's not brilliant, or efficient... but it's playable.

Yeah, I think my issue with all the Vader +EU+3pt skill+maybe a missile builds is that I can always do:

Soontir TC, SU, PTL, RGT

and it comes in for the same price (36) sans missiles and while it has one less shield, its an arc dodger with one additional attack die. Now I need to worry about stress with Soontir, but I find with the Interceptors dial, I can manage stress pretty well.

Vader is better off against a squad that deals stress than Soontir.

My first game at my local game store, I won a flawless victory with 2x tempest sq ships and a few TFs.

The guy I played has been playing xwing since the release.

People dismiss tie advanced on the board. They evade just as well as a tie fighter and strike as well as one. Just move strangely and are overcosted

I find Testors Plastic Model Cement is the way to go if you need to fix a model.

Very interested to see what FFG has come up with.

I'm almost certain FFG will have taken care of it and we now just have to wait and see what they have done....

It is going to be difficult for them to come up with a solution that makes the generics competitive without making Vader overpowered.

its vader, it must be overpowered

I'm almost certain FFG will have taken care of it and we now just have to wait and see what they have done....

It is going to be difficult for them to come up with a solution that makes the generics competitive without making Vader overpowered.

They could have an upgrade or title that can't be equipped above a certain PS, but that might be difficult to justify.

I think if you added a free HLC and Engine Boost, you would see an increase in Tie Advanced.

its vader, it must be overpowered

In a sane world Darth Vader > or = Fat Han.

Just adding a Systems Upgrade slot would work fine.

They could give Vader his crew card ability... that would be fun.

I hope we see an Palpatine crew card for epic ships...

And Vader as a Tie Defender pilot. Steele too... We need them

Point reduction for generic advanced. And add system slot

I hope we see an Palpatine crew card for epic ships...

And Vader as a Tie Defender pilot. Steele too... We need them

The fanboy in me would love a pilot of renown box that came with Stele in an Avenger and Stele and Vader in a Defender.

I'm almost certain FFG will have taken care of it and we now just have to wait and see what they have done....

It is going to be difficult for them to come up with a solution that makes the generics competitive without making Vader overpowered.

That would suggest Vader is currently powerful.

The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.

I hope we see an Palpatine crew card for epic ships...

And Vader as a Tie Defender pilot. Steele too... We need them

The fanboy in me would love a pilot of renown box that came with Stele in an Avenger and Stele and Vader in a Defender.

Maybe I'll make my own cards for both this wknd. Sounds like a fun project

I'm almost certain FFG will have taken care of it and we now just have to wait and see what they have done....

It is going to be difficult for them to come up with a solution that makes the generics competitive without making Vader overpowered.

That would suggest Vader is currently powerful.

The Emperor does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.

No, it just means that Vader is currently powerful relative to the generic TIE Advanced pilots. If you apply the same fix to all of the TIE Advanced pilots, then it will make them all better, but the relative gap between Vader and everyone else is still there. So Vader would be almost auto-include in certain lists, and the generics would be merely OK, and still not get used.

Vader is very good. Is he a gatekeeper, no. But I would say not say that he isn't competitive.