The following is an argument for why a prequel game is going to happen. No, not today... and not tomorrow, but probably in five years.
Firstly, consider the audience scores for the Prequel Trilogy on Rotten Tomatoes:
The Phantom Menace = 60%
Attack of the Clones = 60%
Revenge of the Sith = 65%
No, the scores are not as high as the Original Trilogy, but it demonstrates that the majority of fans liked the movies.
Secondly, those that would have rated those movies on Rotten Tomatoes were likely adults. We know that people who were kids at the time of those movies tended to like them more. So, let's say a child was between 5 and 8 years old when The Phantom Menace came out in 1999. They would now be between 20 and 23 years old. In five years, they will mostly be out of college and nearing a point where they will have disposable income and the gamers in the group will want to play with the ships of their youth. At the latest, FFG might wait ten years to make sure that group has the aforementioned disposable income.
Thirdly, Disney likes making money. Episodes 7, 8, and 9 will wrapped up by then, so going back to sell toys from the prequel era won't be a problem.
Fourthly, X-Wing Miniatures probably won't be getting any more ships in five years, so it will be a perfect time to make a game with the same general mechanics, but different ships. That way you can mix and match, if you want, but diehard OT fans don't have to buy them.
Finally, there was once a time people said there would never be Episodes 7, 8, and 9 - but now they're being made. The same will likely be said regarding those that argue there will never be prequel ships.
IN CONCLUSION:
This thread is not meant to be a debate about whether there will/should be a prequel game - there will be (just probably not for five years).
So, for the sake of preventing needless bickering, here are some discussion points:
1) What do you think the game should be called? My vote is for "Jedi Starfighter Miniatures Game"
2) What ships do you think should be in a starter set?
3) What ships should be the first expansion packs?
PREDICTION: Prequel Game
I disagree with the premise and the arguments presented. I don't believe there will be a preview game.
I disagree with the premise and the arguments presented. I don't believe there will be a preview game.
That has got to be the calmest response I have seen in ages.
I disagree with the premise and the arguments presented. I don't believe there will be a preview game.
That has got to be the calmest response I have seen in ages.
Agreed.
This thread is why we need dislike buttons, big angry ones.
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I think it's far from a sure thing that a prequel game will be made in the X-Wing style. For one thing, you're assuming that after the sequel trilogy is through, there will be no new star wars ships available. That's a bold claim, considering the time frame and the opportunity for new EU material to be printed during and after the sequel. It's entirely possible that FFG will have more ships than they know what to do with five years from now.
Also the game may have run it's natural course by 5 years and players may lose interest, although I don't think this will be the case.
For the time being it's also fairly clear from FFG's releases that they are more focused on rebellion era forward. They may change this pattern in the future, but as of now it is what it is.
Anyway, I agree with your other points. There is an opportunity for a game there, built largely off of the XWM model.
Not to say that I think a preq game is a bad idea. I bet it'd be a lot of fun for prequel fans.
I wouldn't mind a prequel game. The space battles in the prequels weren't bad there just wasn't enough of them. The opening of RotS was great.
I really enjoyed the Clone Wars episodes with large space battles.
There's unlikely to be a prequel version of this until Disney shifts its focus onto the prequels (FFG ain't doin' it unless Disney tells them to), which it's very unlikely to do given it has a brand new cash cow (sequels) that aren't mired in the "controversy" of 1-3 and which will last it for a very long time. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Disney all but abandons the prequels simply because they don't need them. The argument of "it's money why wouldn't they" doesn't hold up when you consider that their resources, while vast, are finite and they can make more money continuing to do what they're doing already (almost exclusive OT focus followed by sequel focus.)
Edited by TIE PilotOnce the new movies start coming out, I think LFL will be a bit more willing to revisit the PT. Priming the hype machine for the new trilogy is smart marketing, thus as a sequel, they are placing their current efforts on priming that OT nostalgia.
To the contrary, once the new movies come out they'll have a brand new area to focus their efforts on.
Once the new movies start coming out, I think LFL will be a bit more willing to revisit the PT.

couldn't resist, sorry everyone
Edited by BabaganooshI would enjoy seeing FFG make the V-Wing, as it was shown as an Imperial starfighter at the end of Ep 3, so it would fit in and give the Empire something new to use. We've already got the Z-95 and the Y-Wing, albeit in OT design and not the shiny new PT versions. I could live without droid fighters and Naboo fighters. I would enjoy seeing an ARC-170 in the game...maybe as a Scum faction or a Rebel ship, although a case could be made it could fall under Imperial as well since it was shown killing that one Jedi during Order 66 which is pretty much the same time as the Empire was created.
I don't know that a separate PT game would need to be made, but there can be a case to include some of the PT stuff on a limited basis.
And we don't know what sort of stuff Star Wars: Rebels or Ep 7 will have in the near future that might make for good game pieces.

I agree with the arguments presented here. As one of the aforementioned kids who grew up with the Prequel trilogy (I was 6 when TPM came out), I don't hate the prequels as much as many older fans do... and I'm not alone. I think the core set of Jedi Starfighter would either be one Naboo Starfighter vs two Droid Starfighters if they start in Ep I, or an Ep II Jedi Starfighter (2/4/X/X, System, Missile; very maneuverable) vs two Droid Starfighters (2/2/2/0, 10 points) if they stick to the Clone Wars.
The first wave of expansions would probably be a Droid Starfighter (with a Vulture Droid title upgrade allowing the use of missiles) and a MAF (3/1/4/4, 360 arc, missile), vs a Jedi Starfighter and an LAAT/i (3/2/6/4, Cannon, Missile, Torp, Crew). Wave 2 would be Geonosian fighter and Grievous' fighter vs V-19 torrent and ARC-170 (Large base, rear arc, lots of hull. Torpedo, Crew, maybe cannon?)
Wherever they have the Anakin card, he'll probably be PS 10 with two native EPT slots.
Edited by ThatJakeGuy*shakes magic 8 ball*
"Will there be Prequel Ships in X-wing?"
*vigorous shaking of 8 ball stops*
(Pause for dramatic effect)
"Nope"
Long-time supporter of the separate prequel game concept.
Just want to point out, again, that Disney has not indicated that they're abandoning the PT by any means [go to starwars.com and notice that about half of the images on that page are prequel-era]. They have no real reason to abandon it, the "controversy" mentioned being historically—hilariously—insignificant. There are enough people interested to make it financially viable.
Here's what I think I'd like to see, borrowing the approach from the first releases of XMG:
I like Star Wars. I like starfighters. I like Jedi Starfighters. I like the X-Wing Miniatures game. The more the better. And the good news is, since it needn't have anything to do with the movies (other than using ships seen therein), no Jar-Jar.
On the other hand, should they decide to do something crazy like make Jar-Jar a Crew, you get to blow up Jar-Jar. Win-win.
Long-time supporter of the separate prequel game concept.
Just want to point out, again, that Disney has not indicated that they're abandoning the PT by any means [go to starwars.com and notice that about half of the images on that page are prequel-era]. They have no real reason to abandon it, the "controversy" mentioned being historically—hilariously—insignificant. There are enough people interested to make it financially viable.
Here's what I think I'd like to see, borrowing the approach from the first releases of XMG:
Core set:1x Naboo N-1 Starfighter2x Vulture DroidWave I:Delta-7 StarfighterScarab-class Droid StarfighterNaboo Royal Starship (large base)Star Courier/Sith Infiltrator (large base)Wave II:V-19 TorrentARC-170 StarfighterDroid Tri-FighterHyena-class Droid BomberWave III:Eta-2 Interceptor (Jedi)Nu-class Attack Shuttle (large base)Nantex-class Territorial Defense Starfighter (Geonosian fighter)Belbullab-22 Starfighter (Grievous' heavy starfighter)Wave IV:Alpha-3 Nimbus-class V-wing StarfighterBTL-B Y-Wing (Clone-era Y-Wing)Porax-38 StarfighterSlave I (Jango Fett paint) (large base)Ultimately there are a few huge craft that would be welcome; I'd really like to see a Pelta-class frigate and Consular-class frigate.
If they were going to do a core set I don't think they would start with the N-1 Starfighter considering it was a planetary fighter not a Republic fighter. I think something more like the Arc-170 or the V-19 torrent would work. Or if they really wanted to push the jedi aspect maybe a single delta 7 along with the two vulture droids.
And to tell the truth the clone wars was a cool period, it was just WAY over saturated with the comics, shows, films, games etc.... But that doesn't distract from what could very well be a cool "update" to X-wing at some point.
Heck imagine running a campaign from episode 3 through the galactic civil war with Jedi on the run and stuff!
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I disagree with the premise and the arguments presented. I don't believe there will be a preview game.
That has got to be the calmest response I have seen in ages.
There aren't many advantages you get when you have lived for 73 rotations around the sun like I have, but some sense of serenity is one of them.
In addition, you realize that even if you disagree with someone, you can do so in a constructive manner. Of course I was a slow learner, so that realization took me about 53 rotations around the sun. ![]()
Firstly, consider the audience scores for the Prequel Trilogy on Rotten Tomatoes:The Phantom Menace = 60%Attack of the Clones = 60%Revenge of the Sith = 65%
No, the scores are not as high as the Original Trilogy, but it demonstrates that the majority of fans liked the movies.
Secondly, those that would have rated those movies on Rotten Tomatoes were likely adults...
Wrong on both counts, unfortunately. First, it demonstrates that the majority of people who submitted reviews on RottenTomatoes liked the movies; there are undoubtedly fans who haven't reviewed them (I say "undoubtedly") because I'm one of them, and there are likely people who reviewed the movies who don't identify as Star Wars fans.
Second, in a world where (setting aside a wealth bar that's fairly irrelevant here) everyone over the age of 11 has a smartphone and is engaged in online culture as well as pop culture, I don't think it's safe at all to say RT users are likely adults.
As for the "companies like money" argument, that fails to recognize the constraints FFG currently has. They can't keep earlier waves of this game in stock, let alone a separate game constructed on the same lines and set in the same universe. Five years from now...? Maybe your hypothesis holds more water when we look that far out, but they'll have all of Rebels and Episodes 7-9 to draw on at that point. And that means you have to argue not only that FFG will be looking to a new time period to revitalize the game, but that they'll choose the prequels over other available options. That's a hard case to make.
So--completely aside from the debate over whether the game will or should exist, I find the argument you've presented un persuasive.
When I ask myself: Would I buy a (the same) game based on the ships of Episode I - III?
The answer would be:
I don't think it's a sure thing, but honestly I don't mind the design of the prequel trilogy's vehicles. Those clone fighters (ARC-170?) looked cool.
Also, speaking as someone that first saw The Phantom Menace as an 11-year old, I loved it back then. I'm also much more forgiving of its flaws than most of the older fans, so there is some weight to the suggestion that as my generation gets older the prequels will be seen less harshly.
Truth be told if they did start printing expansions (or a game that just so happened to be fully compatible with X-Wing) that used prequel ships like the Jedi starfighters, Vulture droids, etc I'd probably just go ahead and buy them. The original trilogy is vastly superior but if they can make fun ships out of the prequels I'm in.
I would have thought maybe they will release a prequel miniatures game about 2 months ago, before we got the annoucement of both Imp. Assault and Armada. With those two games coming, I am almost certain we won't get another stand alone miniatures Star Wars game. FFG would be diluting its own brand by releasing yet another miniatures game, especially in the same universe.
Maybe you might see one in 5-10 years, but I highly doubt it. I think FFG will keep the X-wing train rolling, especially with all the movies that will be coming out.
