Have you ever accidentally cheated?

By Two_Hands, in X-Wing

So, a little bit of context: I'm not the best player at our club, but I am one of the people who know the rules well, and quite often I'm the one others come to with rules questions. Which makes this all the more embarrassing.

On Thursday night I was playing a couple of games after work. It'd been a long day and I was pretty tired, just relaxing and winding down. I was playing a new guy who I hadn't played before. We were chatting away, placing dials when I (completely absentmindedly) picked up the template for the move I was planning and held it over the table, as though I was measuring the move. After a second or so I had a "WTF am I doing?" moment and put it down again. I have no idea if he even noticed (he was looking at his own dials) but I felt terrible. I probably should have just said "hey, I did that accidentally, my bad" but in the moment I just cringed and hoped he hadn't noticed. At the end of the turn I told him that he was probably going to win (although at that stage it was only slightly in his favour) and offered to concede, or we could play to the bitter end. He opted for the latter and I played the game out, but I was feeling so bad that my heart really wasn't in it (he won pretty easily from there).

Now I don't think I handled it very well, and I'm thinking about apologising next time I see him (though if he actually didn't notice, it may be an odd conversation). I do know how I should have handled it, but the combination of tiredness and extreme embarrassment didn't make for good decision making.

Has anyone else had a similar situation, and what did you do?

I once played 3-4 games with Tactician on my Decimator and completely forgot about the firing arc requirement. don't think it effected the outcome any though. I only won one of those games and in that game my proton bomb killed his uninjured Etahn with a direct hit on the 2nd turn of combat, as well as finishing off his Z-95.

Mistakes happen, fly casual and don't let it stress you one way or another.

Haha.. yeah, been there done that... during a game, I was playing a 4 player 2 on 2, and my partner and I had a firespray each. During a round of combat, I realized I had misspoke the hull and shield values, so to make up for it I took my firespray off the table, as my miscalculated shields meant that I was out of hull, then my partner was cool to lose his extra shield marker and we finished the game. Boy, I tell ya though, I felt stupid lol.

Ive placed dials on wrong ships b4 by mistake

Definitely a few times at least.

Forgot that you can't decloak from ion.

Accidentally added 4 ties as 42 instead of 48.

For a while we were doing crit damage cards and asteroids all wrong, but that wasn't my fault ^^

Oh FCS, i spent the TL on that attack.

Yeah. I shouldn't be the first one to fly new upgrades and ships.

I definitely remember losing one of the Assault on Imdaar tournaments because, at the time, neither of us knew that you couldn't drop proton bombs/seismic charges while ionized.

Well, now I'll never forget that rule...

As I only play against my kids, I "accidently" cheat all the time :P.

The reason you can't measure moves is because if you did you've give your maneuvers away to the opponent.

playing the political escort mission with a new player, I forgot to tell them about the reinforcement rule. My Y wing killed an interceptor in 2nd round with a lucky roll at range 3. When I got my shuttle off the map (turn 8, 9, or 10 or so) it had 1 hull left. Losing out on 6 or more attacks from the extra academy tie that almost certainly would have got that last HP down made me feel dirty when I realized what I'd done afterward.

Accidents happen. As long as they're just accidents, I wouldn't worry too much about it if I was your opponent. Fly casual.

Lol..in tweaking a build I swapped one card for another, then proceeded to forget to pull the one I was swapping out and ran a 103 point build vs not 1, but two of my friends. When I figured it out I told them both and apologized! The teased me about it for weeks lol!

I admit, sometimes I cheat a bit. But it is never enough to actually get caught, and I don't think I would be able to pull it off in torunamnets. But then again I'm a paranoid basterd and suspect my opponents to try to do the same to me.

Or maybe its just luck, but many times I have seen an unmodified 3-5 dice attack yield at least 2-3 crits and the rest hits and destroy my fighters completely. (I still remember the game where I had to concede the second turn in as I had lost 3 of my 4 x wings in that second turn of shooting).

Maybe cheating doesn't matter, as it seems to bring the wrath or the dice gods apon me. Yesterday I attacked with keyans Super laser, and out of 6 dice, only 2 of them were hits, no eyeballs. That happened twice, and the y-wings decided that they would contest that title of fail and roll blanks on everything until they died. Still managed to win the game after that though, even though I had lost istbalm and the two y-wings. Even though it was 200 points of phantoms and interceptors, Keyan carried the day after he remembered you have to pull the trigger to shoot people, and "pew pew" noises wouldn't suffice.

IMO cheating requires intent, so it's actually not possible to cheat by mistake. You can make a mistake, do something against the rules and no one notices... But that's not the same as cheating.

IMO cheating requires intent, so it's actually not possible to cheat by mistake. You can make a mistake, do something against the rules and no one notices... But that's not the same as cheating.

It also requires getting caught, which requires you to be bad at it and/or greedy about it

At least, that's my definition of it.

Mistakes happen, fly casual and don't let it stress you one way or another.

Yeah, I'm pretty casual when I play- it just makes you feel especially stupid when you've had a couple of people come up during the course of the game and ask you rules questions, then you make a huge rules blunder yourself.

IMO cheating requires intent, so it's actually not possible to cheat by mistake. You can make a mistake, do something against the rules and no one notices... But that's not the same as cheating.

It also requires getting caught, which requires you to be bad at it and/or greedy about it

At least, that's my definition of it.

Remind me never to play with you. That's despicable.

IMO cheating requires intent, so it's actually not possible to cheat by mistake. You can make a mistake, do something against the rules and no one notices... But that's not the same as cheating.

It also requires getting caught, which requires you to be bad at it and/or greedy about it

At least, that's my definition of it.

Remind me never to play with you. That's despicable.

I'm guessing he's joking. At least, I hope so

I'm guessing he's joking. At least, I hope so

Based on his first post in this thread it doesn't look like it. He simply appears to be a dishonest person who doesn't see anything morally wrong with deliberately breaking the rules.

How about the reverse. I had whisper cloaked got shot at and only rolled 2 Agility dice. Realized it next round but too late cause she is already off the board.

I ran Kir Kanos with push the limits...

I played two Rebel Captives in a list before realizing it was a unique card. It just didn't hit me that it could/would be "unique" without a proper name like R2D2. I didn't know about the dot thing until then.

You never cheat "accidentally." Cheating implies intent. Loaded dice. Manipulated damage deck. Even secret range marks on your home made board.

Accidents happen. Brain-farts happen. Tiredness and distractions abound. That's not cheating...its part of life.

The very fact you felt like cr@p when you had a brain dump and did something dumb means you not only weren't cheating, but actually have a conscience and care about your reputation.

I didn't realize there is a difference between cannons and turrets. When I first played my shuttle I was shooting HLC 360 degrees. The guy I was playing against was even newer than myself so he just let me do it.

Accidents happen. As long as they're just accidents, I wouldn't worry too much about it if I was your opponent. Fly casual.

IMO cheating requires intent, so it's actually not possible to cheat by mistake. You can make a mistake, do something against the rules and no one notices... But that's not the same as cheating.

You never cheat "accidentally." Cheating implies intent. Loaded dice. Manipulated damage deck. Even secret range marks on your home made board.

Accidents happen. Brain-farts happen. Tiredness and distractions abound. That's not cheating...its part of life.

The very fact you felt like cr@p when you had a brain dump and did something dumb means you not only weren't cheating, but actually have a conscience and care about your reputation.

Edited by Cununculus

First time I used rexlar I made good use of his recon spec crew.

I still lost that game, but it was only when I got home the lightbulb went off over my head and I realised my idiocy.

Mistakes happen all the time.

Especially when beer is involved:)