OT: The Physics of Space Battles

By MajorJuggler, in X-Wing

A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence referred to the pattern's uniformity in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.

Lasers were generated by stimulating a "gain medium"; this substance was charged with electricity, radiation or even by chemical reaction so as to release energy in the form of photons. The gain medium could come in the form of a solid (often a crystal), liquid or gas (tibanna gas was reputedly a favored medium). The "gain medium," when charged, saw the rapid excitement of its constituent atoms. These atoms would experience increases in electron energy levels. Said electrons, seeking equilibrium, then released photons, or packets of electromagnetic radiation, so as to self-stabilize. The produced radiation, reflected and amplified by the optical cavity, could then be released as a high-powered and potentially destructive beam of coherent radiation. The output coupler was responsible for the release of the beam from the optical cavity.

There is clearly a difference between lasers and blasters, and blasters are clearly the modern technology.

In a dogfight, a non-newtonian physics following ship will lose to a newtonian physics ship every time, especially with fixed forward firing weapons. The ability to swing your ship around and fire or maneuver in any direction is a massive advantage, not a disadvantage.

It depends on the performance of the craft and the skill of the pilot. I personally don't recommend swinging your fighter around in a dogfight to take on people behind you because in that change of angle you become a bigger target that for X amount of time you wont be firing at the enemy while they are firing at you.

Its been a very long time and I didn't get into B5 but I can tell you how this maneuver was portrayed in the remake of BSG was terrible. If you watch closley the enemies they are changing angles on to fire at stop shooting at them like they are dumbstruck by seeing there enemy change to face them and then fire at them.

A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence referred to the pattern's uniformity in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.

Lasers were generated by stimulating a "gain medium"; this substance was charged with electricity, radiation or even by chemical reaction so as to release energy in the form of photons. The gain medium could come in the form of a solid (often a crystal), liquid or gas (tibanna gas was reputedly a favored medium). The "gain medium," when charged, saw the rapid excitement of its constituent atoms. These atoms would experience increases in electron energy levels. Said electrons, seeking equilibrium, then released photons, or packets of electromagnetic radiation, so as to self-stabilize. The produced radiation, reflected and amplified by the optical cavity, could then be released as a high-powered and potentially destructive beam of coherent radiation. The output coupler was responsible for the release of the beam from the optical cavity.

There is clearly a difference between lasers and blasters, and blasters are clearly the modern technology.

Well that depends, we know that LASERs are the more powerful weapon, but I would have to say that the technology that brought about Turbo LASERs and Super LASERs are more modern or at the absolute least many magnitudes more powerful.

Also the Clone Troopers have blaster weapons that have a higher concentration of ION hence why they are blue... At least that's what the SW BF 2 players guide says...

Edited by Black Knight Leader

Black Knight....

erm... there's a lot in your post, I'll just leave this tidbit in regards to lasers:

c = 3 * 10^8 m/s

In real life C is not a constant...

You missed the point, so here is a clue. Estimate c for the energy shots fired in this scene, and compare to c in vacuum.

http://youtu.be/z33-qOXOWS4?t=17s

A laser beam was a coherent shaft of light. When referring to light (or any other wave pattern for that matter), coherence referred to the pattern's uniformity in multiple waves. In other words, each light wave emitted from the laser device had the same wavelength and amplitude as all other waves emitted from the same device, and all "crests" and "troughs" of every wave were aligned with the others.

Lasers were generated by stimulating a "gain medium"; this substance was charged with electricity, radiation or even by chemical reaction so as to release energy in the form of photons. The gain medium could come in the form of a solid (often a crystal), liquid or gas (tibanna gas was reputedly a favored medium). The "gain medium," when charged, saw the rapid excitement of its constituent atoms. These atoms would experience increases in electron energy levels. Said electrons, seeking equilibrium, then released photons, or packets of electromagnetic radiation, so as to self-stabilize. The produced radiation, reflected and amplified by the optical cavity, could then be released as a high-powered and potentially destructive beam of coherent radiation. The output coupler was responsible for the release of the beam from the optical cavity.

There is clearly a difference between lasers and blasters, and blasters are clearly the modern technology.

Well that depends, we know that LASERs are the more powerful weapon, but I would have to say that the technology that brought about Turbo LASERs and Super LASERs are more modern or at the absolute least many magnitudes more powerful.

Also the Clone Troopers have blaster weapons that have a higher concentration of ION hence why they are blue... At least that's what the SW BF 2 players guide says...

Please don't use BF2 as a reference, because that is at the other end of continuity. I just quoted directly from Wookieepedia, which is the official canon source. I agree superlasers are actually lasers, but turbolasers are just scaled blasters. The Wookiee states it is plasma, and that is what my visual dictionaries say as well in regards to clone blasters.

In a dogfight, a non-newtonian physics following ship will lose to a newtonian physics ship every time, especially with fixed forward firing weapons. The ability to swing your ship around and fire or maneuver in any direction is a massive advantage, not a disadvantage.

It depends on the performance of the craft and the skill of the pilot. I personally don't recommend swinging your fighter around in a dogfight to take on people behind you because in that change of angle you become a bigger target that for X amount of time you wont be firing at the enemy while they are firing at you.

Its been a very long time and I didn't get into B5 but I can tell you how this maneuver was portrayed in the remake of BSG was terrible. If you watch closley the enemies they are changing angles on to fire at stop shooting at them like they are dumbstruck by seeing there enemy change to face them and then fire at them.

I can't think of a single reason, if your guns only face forward, to allow your opponent to keep shooting at your back without returning fire.

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In a dogfight, a non-newtonian physics following ship will lose to a newtonian physics ship every time, especially with fixed forward firing weapons. The ability to swing your ship around and fire or maneuver in any direction is a massive advantage, not a disadvantage.

It depends on the performance of the craft and the skill of the pilot. I personally don't recommend swinging your fighter around in a dogfight to take on people behind you because in that change of angle you become a bigger target that for X amount of time you wont be firing at the enemy while they are firing at you.

Its been a very long time and I didn't get into B5 but I can tell you how this maneuver was portrayed in the remake of BSG was terrible. If you watch closley the enemies they are changing angles on to fire at stop shooting at them like they are dumbstruck by seeing there enemy change to face them and then fire at them.

Well of course it depends on the ship and pilot, but I don't see why turning and having the added benefit of forcing your pursuer to fire at a new facing of shields and armor is worse than having then essentially indefinitely follow and shoot you until you're dead.

I can't think of a single reason, if your guns only face forward, to allow your opponent to keep shooting at your back without returning fire.

One reason I can think of, is becouse of time. When You are turning to face him, You are just flying more or less straight, so You are sitting duck until You finish turning and start shooting. Depending on his weapons effectivness, You might be dead at that point.

Honestly, I love when people say "real space combat would look like that".

Real space combat might happen after at least several decades of technological progress.

The assumption, that space fighters (if they will exist) will be propelled by rocket engines in Newtonian physics are as propable, as assumption, that space fighter will be propelled by some technology we do not know.

Example (Idea from Sword of the Stars): Propulusion does not push vessel through space but cause microteleportation with great frequency. So the vessel is teleported milimeter by milimeter, and when the engine slows down, the frequency drops and movement is slower. Side effect: no G-force on user.

Problem with Star Wars is simple law: 90% of everything is a crap.

Star Wars is a big business with lot of content authors. 90% of them are too incompetent to invent barely belivable technobubble.