Tablet Users and X-Wing

By Ribann, in X-Wing

I'm curious for any other tablet user out there if you use your tablet during match play for...well...pretty much everything?

I've found having one alongside me during a game I can quickly access rule books and reference guides and visuals while playing tabletop. There are now several X-wing builder apps (as well as the dice app).

Does anyone utilize a tablet to enhance their experience of X-wing?

I have a Galaxy Note 3 and use it for squad builder, AI, and companion every match.

No, never really seen a need for computer assistance at the gaming table. I've always found it the be faster (and frequently more accurate) to do things analog while actually playing.

Will use a squad builder at home when looking up cards and/or designing builds.

If I have the book handy (which is always the case during an actual game), then yes, it is faster and more convenient to look something up in the hard copy than using a tablet.

I use mine for army lists and can quick-check FAQs if necessary. I also downloaded the maneuver sheets some awesome dude put up on here a while ago, and I use those if I can't remember the specifics of an opposing dial.

Yep almost every game I have my nexus7 on hand for squad builder and looking at the FAQ.

Not to forget the x-wing soundboard to provide the essential pew pews.

I have the Star Wars dice app on my ipad, but using it instead of real dice feels wrong somehow...would any of you object if your opponent was using it instead of real dice?

I use my android phone for squad builder, but I mainly use the cards for upgrades and what not.

I do know another player who prints out his squadron and place shield and damage tokens on that sheet instead of the cards.

I use my Note 3 for everything except dice, electronic dice apps can go die in a fire.

I use my Note 3 for everything except dice, electronic dice apps can go die in a fire.

But if your opponent used it, would you object?

I use my Note 3 for everything except dice, electronic dice apps can go die in a fire.

But if your opponent used it, would you object?

I've played an opponent who has Star Wars Dice on his tablet. I didn't object because I'd rather be playing the game than dictating how he plays it, but it did kinda rub me the wrong way.

If you're not rolling bones, you're not tabletop gaming.

If I have the book handy (which is always the case during an actual game), then yes, it is faster and more convenient to look something up in the hard copy than using a tablet.

Is it actually faster and more convenient or is it faster and more convenient for YOU?

What are you driving at? Forgottenlore has already said that he found analog faster. He's not saying that is always the case, just that for him it is faster and easier.

And I do agree with him by the way, I've printed some FAQ's and it's easier for me to find stuff because I can remember where I've read it on paper much better than where I've read it in some document and I can scan a physical page much faster than when scanning.

And a piece of paper falling off the table is no problem. :P.

Buying the dice app is about as expensive as buying a new set of dice, I'd rather have the physical dice myself.

Most Mobile PDF viewing apps are poorly designed - Hard to search for keywords, scrolling from page to page is a pain (usually designed for low RAM usage, so pages don't precache), switching away from the viewer to another program like Calc or browser sometimes causes the app to reload, etc.

I'm a huge fan of mobile computing and compile custom Android/CM builds, but right now iOS and Android Office-style suites are sorely lacking. Some of the issue is how those OSs handle apps in general, though, not the developers faults. If you have one of those Windows tablets or a laptop that runs actual PC versions of Adobe or Foxit, then it's definitely more convenient than paper. Just, that's an exception to the rule.

so do the people that dislike the dice app actually own it? Dont get me wrong i like dice as well but the app is pretty cool.. I got mine free as my phone came with app cash or something along those lines..lol Got it on a note 2 and it works great. no chasing dice around the board and or knocking things over. AND it has cool sound effects...

I use my Note 3 for everything except dice, electronic dice apps can go die in a fire.

But if your opponent used it, would you object?

I've played an opponent who has Star Wars Dice on his tablet. I didn't object because I'd rather be playing the game than dictating how he plays it, but it did kinda rub me the wrong way.

If you're not rolling bones, you're not tabletop gaming.

Everyone can play how they want, but as like Sekac said... It does not really bother me if someone is using an "official" dice app, I just have to have the physical dice. If I wanted to play X-Wing vs Tie Fighter that way I can play at home alone on the computer.

Most Mobile PDF viewing apps are poorly designed - Hard to search for keywords, scrolling from page to page is a pain (usually designed for low RAM usage, so pages don't precache), switching away from the viewer to another program like Calc or browser sometimes causes the app to reload, etc.

I'm a huge fan of mobile computing and compile custom Android/CM builds, but right now iOS and Android Office-style suites are sorely lacking. Some of the issue is how those OSs handle apps in general, though, not the developers faults. If you have one of those Windows tablets or a laptop that runs actual PC versions of Adobe or Foxit, then it's definitely more convenient than paper. Just, that's an exception to the rule.

For rpgs in general, I DM off the cuff. I have tried several free and paid PDF readers; I get where you are coming from, I used to use a slow generic ten inch tablet and I still use the ten incher to read PDFs but not for live gaming.

I started using the paid version of Documents-to-Go about a year ago; reference material(PDF), spreadsheets, drawings, game notes and Maps load up very quick on my Note 3 and Tab. Additionally, I use a few XML DM screens and spell book apps for quick reference when playing 3.5 and Pathfinder; which trump carrying thousands of dollars in books around. Having all those tables available when the players choose to roll for random loot is nice.

Edited by LordCole

What apps/tools/websites are good for iPad? Any links/recommendations?

I use my Note 3 for everything except dice, electronic dice apps can go die in a fire.

But if your opponent used it, would you object?

I use my Note 3 for everything except dice, electronic dice apps can go die in a fire.

But if your opponent used it, would you object?

I've played an opponent who has Star Wars Dice on his tablet. I didn't object because I'd rather be playing the game than dictating how he plays it, but it did kinda rub me the wrong way.

If you're not rolling bones, you're not tabletop gaming.

Edited by Bakura83

Aside from squad building, my personal preference is electronics be left out of tabletop gaming.

The ONLY exception (for ME) is HeroLab for Pathfinder. Given the huge math crunch it's almost a requirement.

-Cal

Most Mobile PDF viewing apps are poorly designed - Hard to search for keywords, scrolling from page to page is a pain (usually designed for low RAM usage, so pages don't precache), switching away from the viewer to another program like Calc or browser sometimes causes the app to reload, etc.

I'm a huge fan of mobile computing and compile custom Android/CM builds, but right now iOS and Android Office-style suites are sorely lacking. Some of the issue is how those OSs handle apps in general, though, not the developers faults. If you have one of those Windows tablets or a laptop that runs actual PC versions of Adobe or Foxit, then it's definitely more convenient than paper. Just, that's an exception to the rule.

For rpgs in general, I DM off the cuff. I have tried several free and paid PDF readers; I get where you are coming from, I used to use a slow generic ten inch tablet and I still use the ten incher to read PDFs but not for live gaming.

I started using the paid version of Documents-to-Go about a year ago; reference material(PDF), spreadsheets, drawings, game notes and Maps load up very quick on my Note 3 and Tab. Additionally, I use a few XML DM screens and spell book apps for quick reference when playing 3.5 and Pathfinder; which trump carrying thousands of dollars in books around. Having all those tables available when the players choose to roll for random loot is nice.

For RPGs, I would agree that a tablet is much better simply due to the space constraints. When you have 5 books just for the campaign setting ("Hmm, let me open Unapproachable East and read up on common open trade routes...") and another 15 for random 1-level multi-class inserts the players love, it's rather intimidating.

On the official dice app... ugh. My friend used it once and it's frustrating to have to select the dice, remove old ones, roll them, then have your opponent view the screen to double check results. Just grab your 1-4 dice, roll 'em to the side of the board and be done with it. It's anyone's right to use it if they wish, and I won't try to get someone to stop, but it's frankly courteous and time saving to just roll the physical dice. Just don't be the guy who throws dice instead of rolling so you both can avoid ducking under the tables every combat phase.

so do the people that dislike the dice app actually own it? Dont get me wrong i like dice as well but the app is pretty cool.. I got mine free as my phone came with app cash or something along those lines..lol Got it on a note 2 and it works great. no chasing dice around the board and or knocking things over. AND it has cool sound effects...

It has a lot to do with how tactile the game is, you are playing with minis and using rulers/templates but it feel like walking away from the table when you electronically roll dice.

It is a kin to how a hardcore D&D player is when it concerns their dice; a player can develop an affinity for a set of dice, you can not do that with an app.

Aside from squad building, my personal preference is electronics be left out of tabletop gaming.

The ONLY exception (for ME) is HeroLab for Pathfinder. Given the huge math crunch it's almost a requirement.

-Cal

Edited by Bakura83

I build lists on an app and use the official dice app as we never had enough dice and it was cheaper than buying more.

I generally just use army builders to help speed list building up and gives me something else to do on break at work. As far as dice apps not a fan of ones that roll for u(not the dice gods chosen children). But wouldnt stop someone from using one its about preference. Also gotta admit do like probability apps for those 'should i' moments as im not the greatest at maths.

The dice app gives you no advantage over real dice the game I lost where I rolled eight blank greens was with the app.

It just means we arnt constantly asking each other to pass a red or green dice over, also it makes sounds pew pew.