Hi guys was wondering if there is any rule about the use of a movement Gide cheat sheet used in the set dial step of the game. I know of a player in my local scene who has been using them and people have voiced there concerns about there use.

If they are permitted is there use common, or even in the spirit of the game. I have played the guy in question and have thought to my self " geez if you can't think for your self then why even play the game" . The guy does play the tie swarm and pulls them out to make sure he sets his dials right to be the most effective. Do I and others in my local scene have a bad attitude or is a line being crossed here

Cheers guys

What, exactly, is on the sheet?

So is it a master sheet of all the maneuvers or a list of the maneuvers for his opening moves?

Doesn't sound too untoward, maybe he has trouble keeping them all straight. There's a goodly number of ships now! But I've actually played people like that too, competitively and otherwise. When playing casually I usually keep the maneuver reminders handy, the little sheets that came with the ships. I've introduced a bunch of different people to the game and some really appreciate having a visual reference while they're learning the ropes!

If it's a list of all the dials he is bringing, then it should be perfectly legal. In fact the rules say that you ought to have the movement sheet of all your ships in case anyone asks to see them (it's on the card with the movement table that's included in each set). "Keep this sheet on hand so that players can reference this table at any time."

If it's a set of group movements showing pre-determined arrangements to help with squad flying, I'd say that's something that he could probably use in a friendly game, but probably not in any kind of official context.

There is no rule covering the use of a cheat sheet durning tournament play. Does this player keep the information on it hidden or is it on the table face up all the time?

Above all of the movement "tables" (the ones that show the maneuvers for each ship), it states that "players may reference this table at any time." Since this hasn't been officially contradicted, I would guess that it still applies in tournaments.

If by cheat guide, you mean a copy of what maneuvers each ship can do (like the ones that come inside each expansion), then not only is it quite legal, the rulebook actually recommends it.

If you are talking about a list of what he wants each ship to do for several turns, I wouldn't worry, it means he can't be very good at adapting, so just interfere with his formation (by blocking, not by temper tantrum)

If you are talking about something he can put on the board to help him plan moves - BIG NO NO.

I print these on card stock and keep them with me at Tournaments (and generally have a few to give out):

X-Wing Maneuvers Imperial by mbax, on Flickr

X-Wing Maneuvers Rebel by mbax, on Flickr

(yeah, I need to put wave 5 on there)

This is totally legal. I often will offer it to my opponent so they can check what my dials have on them. There is no reason they should not have that information available too. I would encourage people to print these and use them. TOs should feel free to print and give out. The game should be about maneuvering and strategy, not memorization of a series of movement dials.

It's not those dial templates, it's a photo of the position of a swarm formation with the dials set next to each ship for where they will move too. And a few different sheets of these for different situations such as which manoeuvre to do with ships if opponent set up in position x.

I don't think anyone would have a problem with those reference cards above. I didn't think to much of it at first myself but when it's been a tight furball and his ties have moved first from a set play and blocked you up more, myself and others have felt gamed by the fack he used one of these photo sheets to help pick his dials.

Like he had his movement scripted? No. I would not allow that.

Like he had his movement scripted? No. I would not allow that.

I don't think there's a rule that says he can't do that, I don't think I'd let someone do it. I can see doing that to practice formation flying, but not in an actual match.

Like he had his movement scripted? No. I would not allow that.

Scripted movement sounds pretty easy to counter. I'm fine with that.

Like he had his movement scripted? No. I would not allow that.

Scripted movement sounds pretty easy to counter. I'm fine with that.

Well the guy must use it quite well cos he use's it at our local tournaments and I would think he would use it when play games on vassal and he just won the redemption league of the galactic cup.

Like he had his movement scripted? No. I would not allow that.

Scripted movement sounds pretty easy to counter. I'm fine with that.

@Hexis ...

I hadn't seen your cheat sheets before. Very Nice. I will have to keep my eyes out for Wave 5 included versions. Thanks.

I'll post them shortly. Just need to double check them.

Often times new players are very unpredictable as they sometimes don't "follow" normal movements ideas that "we" (those player longer) know to look for. I would personally allow him his script as if I do something that doesnt fit, he will have to rewrite his script. I dont recall anything in the rules about it, as it hasn't been an issue. Much like yt fortress and other things that some worry about, its a tactic and has not ruled the game.

It's not those dial templates, it's a photo of the position of a swarm formation with the dials set next to each ship for where they will move too. And a few different sheets of these for different situations such as which manoeuvre to do with ships if opponent set up in position x.

It sounds like a fantastic tool for practice and prep, but it could be a huge advantage during play and if it were allowed then everybody would be doing it. Do we want that? I say helllllll no.

Please send that question to FFG so we can get it in the next FAQ.

Yeah this sounds more and more like a sort of "flight guide" or setup tool, which seems quite against the spirit of the rules, if not the letter. The spacial perception of the game is a significant part, and attempting to bypass it seems like poor sportsmanship, if not outright cheating. He gets points for preparedness, at least?

If his movements are pre-scripted depending on where you are... then would say his "Cheat sheet" must remain publicly visible. This way YOU can see what his cheat sheet is going to instruct him to do each turn, and you can plan accordingly. It will be his undoing.

If his movements are pre-scripted depending on where you are... then would say his "Cheat sheet" must remain publicly visible. This way YOU can see what his cheat sheet is going to instruct him to do each turn, and you can plan accordingly. It will be his undoing.

Ha! That would sort him!

Thanks guys , I was wondering what sort of consensus people had on this

Topic skew:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hexis/sets/72157644585646314/

X-Wing Maneuvers Rebels Wave 5 by mbax, on Flickr

X-Wing Maneuvers Imperial Wave 5 by mbax, on Flickr