I really like the idea of a third faction overall. But with two of S&V ships being repaints of Rebel ships, it will most likely boost Rebels as well, with new goodies for those ships. This is a problem in my opinion, as far as balance goes. What do you guys think?

Why is it a problem?

Could be an issue, but I doubt it will cause a stir. It also includes new rules to convert Firesprays and Hawks to S&V, so that makes 3 ships with new rules vs 1. Don't fret on it though. Likely won't be an issue. And if there is a card in there that improves my rebel Y-wings, I welcome it.

as long as the pilots are priced correctly i do not see any issues in game balance. I will point out that imperials get the initiative over rebels and S&V. Slight advantage on their part. might be subject to change in upcoming faqs though.

On this case, we know as much as John Snow does. Hold your pants.

Giving one side or the other too much of an edge is always bad for game balance. The Rebels already have a bit of an edge, IMO, at least as far as competitive opions go, and this could make it worse if done in a unchecked manor.

Yep, I think its a pretty good and clever way to boost the y wing with y wing only titles and mods, and introducing a new faction. Going to be interesting what the new pilot abilities are though.

also if it comes with new titles/ mods for the hawk or firespray too

A third faction is always good for balance

stops things being a seesaw

if you go for competetive games you now need to be able to counter the common lists in *three* rather than two camps.

Cant see that being a bad thing.

Also if we have less rebel vs rebel and imp vs imp games its narratively that much more satisfying.

I hate seeing han solo take on hansolo in identical ships....

as long as the pilots are priced correctly i do not see any issues in game balance. I will point out that imperials get the initiative over rebels and S&V. Slight advantage on their part. might be subject to change in upcoming faqs though.

Right now its only Imps have initiative over rebels. Maybe a rock, paper, scissors type formation

Imps get init over rebels

rebels get init over S&V

S&V get init over Imps

Did something change ? Because as far i know the list with the lowest points gets the iniative, regardless of faction.

Did something change ? Because as far i know the list with the lowest points gets the iniative, regardless of faction.

We're talking about if points are even

It goes to a die roll or coin flip if points are even unless you're not using the tournament rules, I prefer the random assignment over just empire has it since that is more fair

Did something change ? Because as far i know the list with the lowest points gets the iniative, regardless of faction.

We're talking about if points are even

You throw a coin in that case.

Edit - Ninja'ed. If you worry about fairness, i think that the rules for tournaments in this case are the best.

I really like the idea of a third faction overall. But with two of S&V ships being repaints of Rebel ships, it will most likely boost Rebels as well, with new goodies for those ships. This is a problem in my opinion, as far as balance goes. What do you guys think?

I think you're ignoring the bit that says Most Wanted will also have a "conversion" for the Firespray, which implies it will get some new stuff too.

Ah, I see. No details, just speculation.

Y-wings better be useable after this.

Y-wings better be useable after this.

They're usable now.

Y-wings better be useable after this.

They're usable now.

Barely but yes. all hail the mighty ion cannon

Y-wings better be useable after this.

They're usable now.

Barely but yes. all hail the mighty ion cannon

actually earlier when people were talking double decimators I was thinking of running 5 golds. more HP, more pew pew and even more agility.

I really like the idea of a third faction overall. But with two of S&V ships being repaints of Rebel ships, it will most likely boost Rebels as well, with new goodies for those ships. This is a problem in my opinion, as far as balance goes. What do you guys think?

I don't think it will be a problem at all because I reckon most of the upgrades for those ships will be 'S&V only'.

I really like the idea of a third faction overall. But with two of S&V ships being repaints of Rebel ships, it will most likely boost Rebels as well, with new goodies for those ships. This is a problem in my opinion, as far as balance goes. What do you guys think?

I don't think it will be a problem at all because I reckon most of the upgrades for those ships will be 'S&V only'.

seriously hope not... like I said in another post, Im gonna be real sad if this is the 'aces' equiv for the y-wing and it's 3rd faction only.

Would be seriously imbalanced if the Rebels got to benefit off of the new faction release while also getting Aces and a ship in Wave 5.

Would be seriously imbalanced if the Rebels got to benefit off of the new faction release while also getting Aces and a ship in Wave 5.

it's a y-wing and z-95.. that's like saying it'd be imba if the Imps got a new advanced and bomber..

oh and lets not forget imp aces came out forever ago so rebel aces is actually catching up..

edit: this actually made me laugh some to myself after thinking about it being "imbalanced" by rebels getting some new Y-wings and Z-95s..

Ran Echo, Whisper list.. dominated by new Y-wings..

Double Decimator.. if only it wasn't for those new Y-wings..

Meta Domination!!

Would be seriously imbalanced if the Rebels got to benefit off of the new faction release while also getting Aces and a ship in Wave 5.

*facepalm*

The forum is going to be fun for the next few months, isn't it?

Would be seriously imbalanced if the Rebels got to benefit off of the new faction release while also getting Aces and a ship in Wave 5.

*facepalm*

The forum is going to be fun for the next few months, isn't it?

I find it thematically appropriate that Rebel players seem to be more accepting than Imperial players, just in general.