Also an avid fan of Dungeons and Dragons. He was a gamer, and a bringer of smiles and laughs, and a good man. Sad, sad day.
I would have loved to play DnD or Warhammer with him, I bet that would've been incredible fun.
Off topic...RIP Robin Williams
Oh captain my captain. Ill be sporting the black armband
while standing on my desk.
Semantics aside, "easy way out or not" is debatable; what isn't is the fact that he let his wife and daughter down in the worst possible way. There is no coming back, making up... nothing just gone and his family is left to recover in the wake of the destruction he left behind.
Sure, that's how it looks (and, undoubtedly, how it honestly feels) from the outside. From the inside the picture is... different.
The thing about mental illness is that it changes how you perceive yourself and the world--and by that I don't mean that Williams was right, or that his family and friends are any less devastated, but simply that the motives behind suicide are rarely simple or even comprehensible to observers.
I'm not arguing that depression is not a mental disease; it is widely accepted as such. I take issue however with people comparing it to cancer... with depression you have a choice to get help, medications and such. His issues were much deeper than just depression, he was an addict as well which again is a choice. Call a spade a spade, he made a conscious choice to end his life rather than continue to get help. A cancer patient who has exhausted all means of medical help and is still racked with cancer it completely different.
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Dude took the selfish way out, and his permanent solution to a temporary problem has/will hurt alot of people who I'm sure cared deeply for him. A real shame
Says someone who hasn't dealt with depressive illness.
A terrible shame, I never saw a single report of anyone with a bad word to say about him, and for someone in the movie industry that's quite the testament to how much he was respected.
You're right. Chemically, there's nothing wrong with my brain. Which makes it difficult for me to empathize with.
I have had to deal with loss of someone who killed themselves because of their depression and what I saw was the pain of the family and friends he left behind.
It's very hard to understand depression until you know you have it. Even living closely with a sufferer might not give you an idea. I never knew I suffered until my early 20s, I though everyone felt the way I did. Also medications and therapy don't always work. It's very comparible to a disease like cancer as simply taking medication is not guarenteed to cure you. What works for one person may not work for another. Many people who suffer really want to get better and do everything they are told and take everything perscribed, but it just doesn't work.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone as the stigma and misunderstanding that goes with it is almost as bad as the disease itself.
Instead of debating depress and mental illness here why don't we all just pay our respects and condolences to his friends and family.
Leave that other crap at the door
No matter what its a terrible tragedy when you lose someone you care about.
I feel bad for them, especially his poor kids
Is a **** shame
He was a fantastic actor and comedian. Also an avid fan of the Sniper class in Battlefield 2.
Word on the street is he was nott depressed until he found out ; only 2 large ships in wave 5 and the game that should nott be name is imminent...
This really says it all...
yep this is sad news. I thought this thread was a joke until i googled it.. sigh.
hey isn't there a movie where robin williams characters wife commits suicide and ends up in hell so he gives up heaven to go there to be with her?
yep this is sad news. I thought this thread was a joke until i googled it.. sigh.
hey isn't there a movie where robin williams characters wife commits suicide and ends up in hell so he gives up heaven to go there to be with her?
The movie is called: What Dreams May Come
There is also a scene in Patch Adams which deals with this.
It's sad he's gone I grew up on moral and Mindy and good morning Vietnam.
Personally never seen suicide as being better than living, where there is life their is hope for a brighter day, death does not lead anywhere you just stop functioning, as someone smarter than me once said those who get to die are the lucky ones because they got to live at all.
Very saddening. The news has been like a cloud hanging over me all day.
Please can I ask that people not make judgements about the circumstances around Robin Williams' death. I just want to leave my condolences, not debate, but I must ask people not to describe this as a selfish act.
That is all I can do, politely ask, but I please implore people to show empathy for Williams and those who are grieving, especially if they are not personally in a position to understand the battles he faced.
There is a time and a place to discuss the 'selfishness' of suicide, and I think it's fair to point out this thread is not that place.
A bad day for me, I love a lot of their movies, too much to list all, but I really miss her, greettings.
Dude took the selfish way out, and his permanent solution to a temporary problem has/will hurt alot of people who I'm sure cared deeply for him. A real shame
There's nothing selfish about suicide.
I dont disagree with you on much Wonder... but I do on this one. Killing yourself is the absolute MOST selfish thing someone can do; because your putting yourself above everyone in your life; his wife, daughter, everyone who counted on him to be a man and a father and he took the easy way out rather than fight.
Saying "he took the easy way out rather than fight" is at best a drastic oversimplification of what struggling with mental illness actually feels like from the inside.
This is actually a really good resource:
Might I suggest you read Allie Brosh's account of her depression, which is considered by experts to be a very accurate description?http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.nl/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.htmlhttp://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2013/05/depression-part-two.html
Semantics aside, "easy way out or not" is debatable; what isn't is the fact that he let his wife and daughter down in the worst possible way. There is no coming back, making up... nothing just gone and his family is left to recover in the wake of the destruction he left behind.
It's not debatable. This is like blaming a cancer victim for leaving his family. The worst thing about mental illness is so many people think it's all in your head and made up. It's sentiment like you've stated that leads to so few people actually getting help and us ending up with these tragedies.
