No offence Killax, but your FAQ doesn't talk about exactly what I asked, which was if there was a specific ruling on clear sleeves vs. artwork sleeves, apart from the ruling regarding alternative artwork cards.
Because I heard contradictory statements from someone who has done tournaments, the FAQ was a little vague.
But yes, I'm looking forward to the faction sleeves as well!
No offence Killax, but your FAQ doesn't talk about exactly what I asked, which was if there was a specific ruling on clear sleeves vs. artwork sleeves, apart from the ruling regarding alternative artwork cards.
Because I heard contradictory statements from someone who has done tournaments, the FAQ was a little vague.
But yes, I'm looking forward to the faction sleeves as well!
I was under the impression the topic was called This is what you buy list (and FAQ). But could be me...
Wait, it is?
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
Wait, it is?
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING.
No offence Killax, but your FAQ doesn't talk about exactly what I asked, which was if there was a specific ruling on clear sleeves vs. artwork sleeves, apart from the ruling regarding alternative artwork cards.
Because I heard contradictory statements from someone who has done tournaments, the FAQ was a little vague.
But yes, I'm looking forward to the faction sleeves as well!
I don't know what's confusing?
For all officially sanctioned regional, national, invitational, and world championship events, players are required to use protective sleeves for their decks. If a player’s deck contains alternate art cards, the sleeves must be art sleeves or opaque.
Whether or not it's enforced by the store is a totally different question. But if you play at anywhere with FFG reps, you'll need sleeves: clear or opaque/art -- and if you have promo cards then it can only be opaque/art
Updated to fix broken links due to FFG's website change.
Actually had to edit all the links...the site redesign
Updated to include new expansion. I am thinking only one box is needed. Will update if I find two are needed.
Proof why I believe only one expansion box is needed:
The Tyranids are not the only faction to receive powerful new cards in The Great Devourer . In this deluxe expansion, each of the seven factions introduced in the Core Set gains six new cards (three copies each of two distinct cards), including an entirely new unique unit and another card to help you battle the Tyranids.
Proof why I believe only one expansion box is needed:
The Tyranids are not the only faction to receive powerful new cards in The Great Devourer . In this deluxe expansion, each of the seven factions introduced in the Core Set gains six new cards (three copies each of two distinct cards), including an entirely new unique unit and another card to help you battle the Tyranids.
. This deluxe expansion is going to be a logistical nightmare.
*Edit* I just realized this set is gonna be like the second star wars set instead of like a netrunner set. Both give you a new dial. This set will most likely be 156 cards. 9+9+5 =24
132 minus non tyranid cards [7 (3×2)] 42 =90 cards 30 times 3 of each.
So it should be 3 packs of 30 with a pack of 24 and a sheet of cardboard with what look to be infest markers (1-5)
Edited by fiddybucksHas this been updated at all for July? I'm a 40K player thinking about making the plunge for not just me, but an entire playgroup so we can demo games and play together.
No, it is a bit out of date. Right now the core and all six war packs in the first cycle are readily available. The first delux expansion (Nids only) will be released at Gen Con then to general retail.
As long as you don't have two people wanting to play the same warlord and faction then three cores and one of each war pack should still be enough for your group. If you have more than one player wanting to play the same faction than more cards may be needed. as all cards are evenly placed knowing what you need extra of is pretty clear.
What other questions do you have?
No, it is a bit out of date. Right now the core and all six war packs in the first cycle are readily available. The first delux expansion (Nids only) will be released at Gen Con then to general retail.
As long as you don't have two people wanting to play the same warlord and faction then three cores and one of each war pack should still be enough for your group. If you have more than one player wanting to play the same faction than more cards may be needed. as all cards are evenly placed knowing what you need extra of is pretty clear.
What other questions do you have?
What are the six war packs?
My shopping list right now is just 3 Core sets. I'm most likely going to be the Eldar player of the group. How many competitive decks can I build with 3 core + 6 packs so I can maximize on the amount of decks to give out to all my friends?
No, it is a bit out of date. Right now the core and all six war packs in the first cycle are readily available. The first delux expansion (Nids only) will be released at Gen Con then to general retail.
As long as you don't have two people wanting to play the same warlord and faction then three cores and one of each war pack should still be enough for your group. If you have more than one player wanting to play the same faction than more cards may be needed. as all cards are evenly placed knowing what you need extra of is pretty clear.
What other questions do you have?
What are the six war packs?
My shopping list right now is just 3 Core sets. I'm most likely going to be the Eldar player of the group. How many competitive decks can I build with 3 core + 6 packs so I can maximize on the amount of decks to give out to all my friends?
Not factoring in Neutral cards (since you would only have 3-each from the packs and 6 each from the cores), I think you could reliably make 3 full decks, so long as the warlords/allies didn't overlap. You could squeeze more decks if your decks minimize the amount of out-of-faction cards.
You could, when not playing tournaments, just use proxies.
What are the six war packs?
My shopping list right now is just 3 Core sets. I'm most likely going to be the Eldar player of the group. How many competitive decks can I build with 3 core + 6 packs so I can maximize on the amount of decks to give out to all my friends?
Doing some research, especially about competitive decks and stuff like that, I see some very common cards here:
http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/index.php?/forum/41-warhammer-40000-conquest-general-discussion/
Cards like Rogue Trader and Void Pirate in almost every deck. How valuable are these cards? Does every competitive deck use them?
Thanks for the help so far everyone, really helpful.
Doing some research, especially about competitive decks and stuff like that, I see some very common cards here:
http://www.cardgamedb.com/forums/index.php?/forum/41-warhammer-40000-conquest-general-discussion/
Cards like Rogue Trader and Void Pirate in almost every deck. How valuable are these cards? Does every competitive deck use them?
Thanks for the help so far everyone, really helpful.
Several of the neutral cards from the Core Set -- Promotion, Rogue Trader, and Void Pirate -- are used very widely. Maybe not 3x of all three in every deck -- decks that are very strong on Command or have other limited cards to play, like Raid in DE and Recon Drone in Tau, might forgo Promotion; a warlord like Cato likely doesn't need Rogue Traders, etc -- but they are at least very important cards.
One nice thing is that all the neutral cards in the Core come as two copies, so with 3 Cores you'll have two full sets of both cards. You'll likely need to shuttle them around a bit if you're trying to keep more than two full decks built at a time, but it's nice to have 6 copies.
My guess is we will se faction specific cards in the second or third cycle that do much of what these core neutral cards do. The neutral cards in the core were a way to add some power to all factions while keeping the card count down. They do some great stuff but will eventually be pushed aside by the meta.
That said once the meta moves to the next big thing you put theses cards back in and surprise the hell out of your opponent.
Thank you everybody for being so patient.
I've decided to go in and buy 3x Core and 1x of each pack. Thanks!
Thank you everybody for being so patient.
I've decided to go in and buy 3x Core and 1x of each pack. Thanks!
You're not gonna regret it.
Thank you everybody for being so patient.
I've decided to go in and buy 3x Core and 1x of each pack. Thanks!
You're not gonna regret it.
Do you guys know a link or thread that talks about the competitive metagame? Since I have all these cards now, I'd like to make a few decks..
I've already done a lot of research from this site:
and right now, I'd like to make Aun'shi, Cato, Eldorath, Kith, Zarathur, while "sidedecking" some cards to I can easily switch Cato out for Ragnar and Eldorath out for Baharroth.
Edited by HEROCard game DB is a good start. I don't post there because I don't like the layout but it is a good community. Look at the great podcasts like Traxis sector and first planet podcast for excellent discussion of the cards and the meta
The other nice thing about Cardgamedb.com is the deckbuilder. You can create as many decks as you want and never run out of cards. The deckbuilder interface is pretty easy to grasp also. It really makes deckbuilding a lot easier. You will need an account to save decks though (but that's easy and free to get).
Sorry folks. Updated
Sorry folks. Updated
Under 'I am on a budget...' you still suggest that the first expansion will have two new factions. We now know it has just one and a new play style.