Nope. That will be Decembers announcement.

6th pack is Descendants of Isha.

Source: http://www.rojocinco.es/p/s.html?m=1

Toqtamish,

Do you think this means that there will be 7 packs in the Warlord Cycle? I was thinking that they might cram Eldar and Dark Eldar into a 6th and final cycle pack together.

What do you think?

6th pack is Descendants of Isha.

Source: http://www.rojocinco.es/p/s.html?m=1

Toqtamish,

Do you think this means that there will be 7 packs in the Warlord Cycle? I was thinking that they might cram Eldar and Dark Eldar into a 6th and final cycle pack together.

What do you think?

No I think there will be six same as every other LCG. Eldar and Dark Eldar are the same species and are therefore both descendants of the mother goddess Isha.

The return value on buying 3 core sets is terrible because of all the cards wasted on Planets - Warlords & their signature cards

The return value on buying 3 core sets is terrible because of all the cards wasted on Planets - Warlords & their signature cards

Actually i'm a casual player, and I have 2 coresets. I just decided i will buy the 3rd. I hadn't planned on it, as a casual player 2 is fine. But i went thru the list of cards to see just how many (3rd) cards i would want and actually use. I came up with 3 to 4 for each faction would be auto include, and additional neutrals of course.

So for me, I decided tomorrow night i'm popping into my local store and buying the 3rd core set instead of fancy tokens.

Neutrals are all in copies of 2, so with 2x Cores you're good for the 3 copies cap

Also, you can do as I do, that, since having 2 Cores, you can actually play two games at the same time =)

By two games at the same time I mean different players =P

Neutrals are all in copies of 2, so with 2x Cores you're good for the 3 copies cap

But having 6 of the neutrals makes it easier to run 2 different factions at the same time

Looking forward to much more Spoilers! I also should get the next cores any time soon altough I still have problems convincing people to get into the game aswell. Many who don't come from a TCG background still see the investment as quite big (which it is but isn't at the same time).

Hopefully we'll get to see more of Isha's decendants soon . I like the way the newer Warlords are designed so far, offering each faction a different thake on a fighter, with Space Marines being the bit of both in all cases.

And I did it. bought the 3rd core. So many tough deck building choices, with 2 cores it was a lot less desicions as most cards were only 2 of's. But although tough choices, it is fun tough choices, can't wait to test out my decks. I'm sure they just moved from tier 3 to tier 2 decks LOL

And I did it. bought the 3rd core. So many tough deck building choices, with 2 cores it was a lot less desicions as most cards were only 2 of's. But although tough choices, it is fun tough choices, can't wait to test out my decks. I'm sure they just moved from tier 3 to tier 2 decks LOL

Fantastic to hear man, I feel it's totally worth it if you have some friends who also like the game. I personally am a fantatic of the game right now but so far my community hasn't jumped on the same boat... Nontheless I'll probably end up getting all the core's (3) just because I really like certain cards aswell. I just hope I dont need to get the Tyranids vs Necrons 3x, Hopefully 2x would be sufficient.

Hello!

I'm new to LCG's in general, having only recently (re)discovered my love of board and cardgames. Got Conquest as soon as it hit the shores of England though, and I'm loving it.

I'm kind of a frugal person though, and the idea of having to get more than one core set to be 'competitive' kind rubs me up the wrong way. At the moment, I'm still considering the second core buy (but no way am I going up to a third), but I'm going to wait and see what my decks look like after the first Warlord pack.

Anyway - my question to the OP and all you other experienced LCG peeps is though - how competitive can you be with only a single core set? I want to enter into tournaments, and I play my friends at the local club as often as I can, some of us have only one core set, most of us have 2-3... I've beaten a 2-core deck before, but I've lost more times than I've won I think.

I come from having played a lot of video games, and this whole idea of having to buy more than one copy of something to stay 'competitive' smacks of Pay-to-win, which is not a good precedent to have IMO. I've tried to go halfs with some people on a second core, but they've all told me they'd want to keep all the cards and not share (I only play Tau and Guard, and then sometimes Marine, so I don't care about the other factions atm).

Anyway, sorry for the brain dump. TL:DR:

* Dislike the idea of buying more than one core set on principle.

* Considering buying a second one anyway, but waiting for more Warlord packs to come out to see what deck looks like.

* Wants to know from experienced LCG players how competitive you can really be with only a single core set.

Thank you for your time!

Anyway - my question to the OP and all you other experienced LCG peeps is though - how competitive can you be with only a single core set?

Anyway, sorry for the brain dump. TL:DR:

* Dislike the idea of buying more than one core set on principle.

* Considering buying a second one anyway, but waiting for more Warlord packs to come out to see what deck looks like.

* Wants to know from experienced LCG players how competitive you can really be with only a single core set.

Thank you for your time!

Hi! And welcome to the wonderfull world of LCG's. Or at least the wonderfull world FFG is creating for them with their excellent games. Imho Conquest truely is a great game and also matches the Warhammer background/warfare really well.

To awnser your questions I think it's first really important to understand that deck skill is more important as having a good deck. Knowing which planets to thake and how battles/rules interract with each other are more important as having the great consistancy of a deck that is composed out of 3 Core sets for example.

However, after you have a good feel for the game. It's the consistancy that lets you win tournaments.

Imho it's a game best played with multiple friends. Owning 1 to 2 Core sets can be more than enough if your friends also own 1 to 2 Core sets. My buddy and I both own 2 and when we go and build competative decks lend each other the cards we feel we need. Besides that the best combinations so far also are somewhat limited to certain factions.

Currently I feel Tau and Space Marines are the ideal partners,Eldar and Dark Eldar and Dark Eldar with Chaos are excellent AM and Orks are there with Orks and Chaos as being great combat decks but lacking in early game command struggles.

So to go back to your points:

- I understand why you dislike the idea of needing to buy multiple Core sets, imho it still is a very cheap game to buy for the contents and buying it together with friends makes the game more fun and cheaper, just try to get a small group sharing the same interest. Here in the Netherlands a new computer game can cost around 60 euros quite fast, this is the exact same cost as two Core sets of Conquest.

- Waiting is always an option, the great thing about the Warpacks is that you don't need them all. Each Warpack also seems to favour a certain faction so knowing it's contains will let you chose wether or not to get it. For example, the Ragnar Warpack is very interesting for Tau players who like their new Aun'Shi Warlord but the pack is much less needed for players who like to play Space Marines Cato, Chaos Space Marines or Eldar and Dark Eldar. So the real benifit is that you now can play another Space Marine Warlord (more equiped for early game strategies) and have great staple cards for Aun'Shi.

- With a single Core set you can be competative enough if your local meta only plays with a single Core set. This all changes when people decide to go for the full option of including 3 copies of each card. Compare it to playing any other competative cardgame like Magic the Gather, Pokemon or YuGiOh, consistancy means a lot when you are skilled in understanding the game and your opponents options.

The last pack has been announced as Descendants of Isha and will include Eldar and Dark Eldar.

Warlord Cycle:

I think it mostly depends on how fast they want to go.

Within a usual FFG Deluxe expansion you get 165 cards. This would mean 55 new cards (taking 3 copies of each). With so many different cards they could easily pull a "Necrons + Tyranid" expansion. Another option would be to include some new planets, some Neutral cards and then the faction cards.

In case they don't want to, they could include one of the two new factions and cards for the other existing factions. However, this could mean having too many cards from each faction in order for a second Deluxe Expansion with the last faction.

Also, as Tekwych commented, since Tyranids can't link, and since, in order to keep the balance they should come with 2 Warlords, the proportion between the first Expansion and the second could be kept, but someone at FFG will have to do a lot of maths =P

Could be something in the lines of this:

- Core set gives you 30 cards per faction (Warlord + Signature and 21 cards)

- First expansion gives you (theorically, still not proven), 48 cards per faction (Warlord + Signature and 39 cards)

This means that, by the time the Expansion comes, each faction has:

- 2 Warlords (with their signatures) for a total of 18 cards

- 60 cards (13 cards with 3 copies of each, 17 cards with a single copy and 2 with 2 copies)

If the first Expansion is Tyranids and wants to keep the balance (including the inability of getting cards from other factions) it could be something like this:

- 2 Tyranid Warlords (with their signature) for a total of 18 cards

- 78 Tyranid cards (26 cards with 3 copies each)

- 6 Neutral cards (2 cards with 3 copies each)

- 63 cards for existing factions (3 cards each faction, 3 copies each)

That would leave each faction with 2 Warlords and 69 cards, and Tyranids would have 2 Warlords and 78 cards so awesome you wouldn't miss the othe factions =P

Then we would get another cycle before getting the last faction, 1 new Warlord each... and I would need a bigger notebook to make the maths for that XD

All this of course is nothing but a bunch of personal theories =P

Hey Killax, Thanks for the welcome and the reply!

I know what you mean about deck skill. I don't really know how good I am with that at the moment. I mean I win some, I lose some, I know what I'm doing but I don't know if I'm that good or what.

As far as my 'local' Meta goes, there's I think 1 - 2 people who, like me, only have one core set, then there's an additional 2-3 guys who have 2 core sets, one of whom has the intent of getting that third core. Are you basically saying that once he does I don't really stand a chance at winning against him?

And is basically playing in any top-level tournaments out of the question completely? (Because I suppose I have to assume that most people will have at least that second core.)

We have a good group of us playing Conquest (love the game. 100%), but no one is really willing to let me buy the cards I need off them. Plus, again it's more of a principle thing for me - why should I have to buy an extra copy? I should be able to compete on an even playing field with what I have. I thought the whole point of the LCG system was to eliminate the randomness + favouring the people with the money to unload on countless boosters.

Sure, there are a number of cards that would justify it for me... but I hate wastage, I inherently dislike the idea of buying something that I KNOW I won't get full use out off because of redundant components.

But I guess I'm not even *that* principled because I'm probably going to get that second core. I just want to give the Warpacks a chance first as the need for those extra core cards might be lessened somewhat.

I know, this sounds like a whine... I guess I feel constrained by my lifestyle and am raging at everyone else with money to spare hah.

I just... FFG could have made it so that you really didn't need to buy that second core. They're doing it with the warpacks, after all.

Hey Killax, Thanks for the welcome and the reply!

I know what you mean about deck skill. I don't really know how good I am with that at the moment. I mean I win some, I lose some, I know what I'm doing but I don't know if I'm that good or what.

As far as my 'local' Meta goes, there's I think 1 - 2 people who, like me, only have one core set, then there's an additional 2-3 guys who have 2 core sets, one of whom has the intent of getting that third core. Are you basically saying that once he does I don't really stand a chance at winning against him?

And is basically playing in any top-level tournaments out of the question completely? (Because I suppose I have to assume that most people will have at least that second core.)

We have a good group of us playing Conquest (love the game. 100%), but no one is really willing to let me buy the cards I need off them. Plus, again it's more of a principle thing for me - why should I have to buy an extra copy? I should be able to compete on an even playing field with what I have. I thought the whole point of the LCG system was to eliminate the randomness + favouring the people with the money to unload on countless boosters.

Sure, there are a number of cards that would justify it for me... but I hate wastage, I inherently dislike the idea of buying something that I KNOW I won't get full use out off because of redundant components.

But I guess I'm not even *that* principled because I'm probably going to get that second core. I just want to give the Warpacks a chance first as the need for those extra core cards might be lessened somewhat.

I know, this sounds like a whine... I guess I feel constrained by my lifestyle and am raging at everyone else with money to spare hah.

I just... FFG could have made it so that you really didn't need to buy that second core. They're doing it with the warpacks, after all.

Hey no worries man, just trying to help a fellow gamer.

As your currently learning about the game Id say continue the steps, I also still make many mistakes but the more you play Conquest the better you get. Currently I also a have a different opinion on certain cards as others do on cardgamedb for example. One of the cards I personally think is very underrated is the Snotling Attack token generator. Combined with the Chaos Warlord often ensures first and second planet wins even with the multiple AoE's running around. Mainly because I feel Chaos is very well equiped for battling against Tau and SM, who are the kings of the AoE damage (together with the Bloodletters).

I think you'll stand a good chance against him if you know you play the game better. The thing is that consistancy in cards will eventually let you play the game better/more consistent. The free mulligan system that is in Conquest rewards consistant decks because you can basicly upgrade your mediocre hand to something better for free, even if it ends up worse you don't lose anything on it. Something comparable was in the WOWTCG game and I loved it. Altough it does force you somewhat to make your deck even more consistant as it else would have to be in say MtG.

As for Top level, personally, with a single core set, I wouldn't suggest or try it. Mainly because people who play the game competatively will most likely have a more consistant deck. While I like the game for what it is it would be like showing up at a MtG legacy event with your EDH deck. Fun, for sure, but won't get you any consistant results needed to get to the top tables... Unless you are much better as every opponent, basicly spend 24/7 playing Conquest with high level players...

You probably don't need an extra copy if you are allready decided on which faction to play. Ebay offers single sales and are more expensive in the end as 3 core sets unless you decide you only play Tau and only want to play Tau. Because the game is quite new most players have not yet decided on a single faction. Plus why should they if you can buy yourself in 7 decks for quite the affordable price?

I understand your troubles with the system for Conquest however, I would also gladly pay 10 euro's per deck so I could have a full SM deck for 30 euro's instead of 7 full deck for 90. The real key imho is finding a friend who also likes the game and is willing to share his pool. The other real option is going for singles and picking your faction allready.

Alternatively you could get the Warpacks and trade those for specific cards. The starter Warlords + required cards are often there in abundance once someone has got the Core set 3 times.

Updated! New pack is out.

Quick question - are Art Sleeves required for Tournaments? I've been buying FFG sleeves, although I've only sleeved the cards I use in my two main decks. They are clear sleeves though.

Someone at my club thinks that you have to have either art sleeves or at least solid colour back sleeves for it to be a legal tournament deck.

I plan to get the official Conquest art sleeves when they come out, but until then just wanted to know if my decks were 'legal' or not.

Clear sleeves are fine.

Someone at my club thinks that you have to have either art sleeves or at least solid colour back sleeves for it to be a legal tournament deck.

Please tell that someone to check out http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/warhammer-40k-conquest/support/faq-updates/WHK_Tournament_Rules.pdf

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Thanks! I don't really get the line about alternate art cards though. They can be art sleeves or opaque? That's basically the only two variants of sleeves right? Seems like a redundant line.

Thanks! I don't really get the line about alternate art cards though. They can be art sleeves or opaque? That's basically the only two variants of sleeves right? Seems like a redundant line.

you can't use clear sleeves with the alternate art card because they use the in-house manufacturing for those and they could have slightly different color or cardstock than the other cards....so you could know when a card was coming available

I have some explanations for that in the Card Sleeves FAQ on first post.

Are sleeves required for tournament play?

• For all officially sanctioned regional, national, invitational, and world championship events, players are required to use protective sleeves for their decks. If a player’s deck contains alternate art cards, the sleeves must be art sleeves or opaque. For all local level events, card sleeves are not required, but players are encouraged to use sleeves both to protect their cards and to protect themselves against accusations of marking or manipulating decks by exploiting variance in the size, wear, or texture of their cards.

Alternative Art Promo cards and sleeves?

• These are given out at FFG events such as League Nights or at conventions where FFG has a presence such as a booth or running product demos. They are legal for tournament play as a substitute for the card in their set. Due to the Print-On-Demand method, the card stock is slightly different so colored backings (not clear) must be used for sleeves.

Also, what was the release date again on those awesome 40.000 Sleeves, I really have to admit I want them all for each of my decks.