New way of cheating evolving?

By TheDarkPilot, in X-Wing

One way to get around this is to share one damage deck?

Negative. Each player is supposed to provide his own. If you deal 2 crits to mean and I get 2 Direct hits that means there is only 5 left in the deck for you to get hit with, which immediately puts you at an unfair advantage

I don't get this...how is using one damage deck less fair that using 2? The cards dealt are random.

One way to get around this is to share one damage deck?

Negative. Each player is supposed to provide his own. If you deal 2 crits to mean and I get 2 Direct hits that means there is only 5 left in the deck for you to get hit with, which immediately puts you at an unfair advantage

I don't get this...how is using one damage deck less fair that using 2? The cards dealt are random.

Because if your opponent draws a card it decreases your chance of drawing it at some point. With two decks your chances of drawing any particular card at any point are the same.

One way to get around this is to share one damage deck?

Negative. Each player is supposed to provide his own. If you deal 2 crits to mean and I get 2 Direct hits that means there is only 5 left in the deck for you to get hit with, which immediately puts you at an unfair advantage

I don't get this...how is using one damage deck less fair that using 2? The cards dealt are random.

It's not "less fair" but it does alter some metagame knowledge you can get when you see what cards have been dealt. With two people drawing from the same deck the knowledge of what is left happens twice as fast.

I recently played a match at a small tournament, i tend to make a slightly bigger point about shuffling my deck,and i like the previous suggestion of offering it up to your opponent. Its a non pushy way to do things.

I have played a match where after my opponent shuffled his cards it very much looked like he flipped the top two over to look at them before he put the deck down. So i offered up my deck to him and suggested we do a shuffle and cut of each others decks. No fuss or drama. If he did do it then perhaps he realises I'm not going to be fooled and so will stop. If he didn't look at the cards early then still no problems caused.

So i favour the "check my stuff" approach. Simple, shows your honesty and your commitment to having an honest game.

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Edited by cetiken

Some people are just uncomfortable bringing this kind of thing up. I dont wanna start a game already feeling like ive accused my opponent of cheating.

If you want this kind of thing in Tournament play then just make it part of the rules to have a judge do random checks each round or something. I know they normally check them at registration, and some do it before a top 16 situation starts etc but if you increase the chances of randomly being caught, then less people would think of risking it.

At the Ottawa regionals, one of my opponents in the 2nd round forgot to set the dial for his Fat Han. It was way out of reach of my squad and half the maneuvers I could of picked would have sent it off the mat. I decided on it and gave it a 3 turn off the table. I told my opponent that I had done a similar dial mistake in a previous tournament and I was never going to repeat it after learning about it the hard way ( 4 red straight on a Y wing instead of a 4K). If I was his only loss of that tournament he still could have placed top 8.

Easier way to rectify the whole problem is to swap damage decks at the start of the game. That way when your opponent hands you their deck to use you can quickly check the cards before shuffling.

Easier way to rectify the whole problem is to swap damage decks at the start of the game. That way when your opponent hands you their deck to use you can quickly check the cards before shuffling.

I'd be cautious of swapping game pieces, there is already enough parts to lose in this game such as dice, movement templates, we don't need damage cards to be added to the list of commonly misplaced items necessary for playing the game.

Edited by Marinealver

At the Ottawa regionals, one of my opponents in the 2nd round forgot to set the dial for his Fat Han. It was way out of reach of my squad and half the maneuvers I could of picked would have sent it off the mat. I decided on it and gave it a 3 turn off the table. I told my opponent that I had done a similar dial mistake in a previous tournament and I was never going to repeat it after learning about it the hard way ( 4 red straight on a Y wing instead of a 4K). If I was his only loss of that tournament he still could have placed top 8.

If a 4 straight takes you off the board, so would a 4k turn.

At the Ottawa regionals, one of my opponents in the 2nd round forgot to set the dial for his Fat Han. It was way out of reach of my squad and half the maneuvers I could of picked would have sent it off the mat. I decided on it and gave it a 3 turn off the table. I told my opponent that I had done a similar dial mistake in a previous tournament and I was never going to repeat it after learning about it the hard way ( 4 red straight on a Y wing instead of a 4K). If I was his only loss of that tournament he still could have placed top 8.

If a 4 straight takes you off the board, so would a 4k turn.

I think he just meant that failing to pay attention cost him a game.

At the Ottawa regionals, one of my opponents in the 2nd round forgot to set the dial for his Fat Han. It was way out of reach of my squad and half the maneuvers I could of picked would have sent it off the mat. I decided on it and gave it a 3 turn off the table. I told my opponent that I had done a similar dial mistake in a previous tournament and I was never going to repeat it after learning about it the hard way ( 4 red straight on a Y wing instead of a 4K). If I was his only loss of that tournament he still could have placed top 8.

If a 4 straight takes you off the board, so would a 4k turn.

I'm sure he meant the next turn he flew off because it put him right at the edge.