XG-1 "Star Wing" Assault Gunboat Thread

By FTS Gecko, in X-Wing

So far (since wave 8) FFG has stayed away from old EU stuff.

So... I'm assuming this was intended as a tongue in cheek post, then.

12 people that want and probably as many trolls to poke them.

The TIE Defender could get 112 pages in an afternoon before it was fixed ;)

162 users following the topic and counting (and no I don't have 150 alternate accounts) :P

Edited by FTS Gecko

I'm only started playing X-Wing but I most definitely remember the gunboat in the TIE Fighter game.

No-one outside of these forums as heard of the ship, eh? Hmmm....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-x-wing-alliance-upgrade-project/news/imperial-fighter-spotlight-assault-gunboat

http://www.xwaupgrade.com/screenshots/gunboat/gunboat.htm

http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/Starfighters/XG1%20StarWing%20Assault%20Gunboat/

https://armadashipyards.com/2015/09/28/xg-1-star-wing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1235266/no-assault-gunboat-or-tie-avenger

https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3tnoqn/why_isnt_the_assault_gunboat_in_xwing/

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=644674

http://www.keeperoftheforce.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=688

http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assault_Gunboat

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/34432

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/alternate-dimensions/4009-imperial-assault-gunboat.html

http://www.momirfarooq.com/swstarfighter/assaultgunboat.pdf

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/112142-x-wing-series-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1220256/1270-scale-scratchbuilt-xg-1-star-wing-assault-gun

http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/samples22.html

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78568&st=25

http://galactic396.rssing.com/browser.php?indx=25574270&item=50

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/incom-t-65-x-wing-vs-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat.174202/

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?81615-TIE-Fighter-tribute-Assault-Gunboats-returning-home&highlight=assault+gunboat

http://www.moc-pages.com/moc.php/419530

http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/Ed2RtS/Star-Wars-Alpha-Class-Xg-1

http://sw.deckdesigns.de/minis/assault-gunboat/assault-gunboat.htm

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Assault-Gunboats-513673279

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Alpha-Xg-1-Assault-Gunboat-513565685

https://bswdaforums.runboard.com/t568

http://misc.thefullwiki.org/Assault_Gunboat

http://starforge.info/galactic-empire-ships/assault-gunboat-xg-1/

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85097.140

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76448.0

...shall I continue?

Edited by FTS Gecko

3 reasons the gunboat will NEVER be in the game:

1. Its non canon.

So far (since wave 8) FFG has stayed away from old EU stuff.

2. What role will it play?

Its basically a TIE punisher that looks like a lambda .

3. It's obscure.

Aside from ten crazy gunboat zealots on the FFG forums no one seems to have heard of this ship (except from said gunboat freaks)

Sorry guys but its the truth.

What?

1. Since wave 8? They haven't released anything since wave 8. We are still on wave 8 right now. X-wing is full of non-cannon ships, I fail to see them stop including them anytime soon.

2. The Gunboat is nothing like a Punisher. It is far closer to a B-Wing than anything else. Yes, it looks like a Lambda, the same company builds both.

3. You call a ship with 111 pages of people demanding the thing obscure? What the hell would you consider mainstream?

He probably wants the Naboo fighter and other prequel stuff. Lol.

So far (since wave 8) FFG has stayed away from old EU stuff.

So... I'm assuming this was intended as a tongue in cheek post, then.

I could be wrong on this point but it is likely.

Aside from ten crazy gunboat zealots on the FFG forums no one seems to have heard of this ship..

No-one outside of these forums, eh? Hmmm....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-x-wing-alliance-upgrade-project/news/imperial-fighter-spotlight-assault-gunboat

http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/Starfighters/XG1%20StarWing%20Assault%20Gunboat/

https://armadashipyards.com/2015/09/28/xg-1-star-wing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1235266/no-assault-gunboat-or-tie-avenger

https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3tnoqn/why_isnt_the_assault_gunboat_in_xwing/

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=644674

http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assault_Gunboat

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/34432

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/alternate-dimensions/4009-imperial-assault-gunboat.html

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/112142-x-wing-series-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1220256/1270-scale-scratchbuilt-xg-1-star-wing-assault-gun

http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/samples22.html

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78568&st=25

http://galactic396.rssing.com/browser.php?indx=25574270&item=50

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/incom-t-65-x-wing-vs-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat.174202/

http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/Ed2RtS/Star-Wars-Alpha-Class-Xg-1

http://sw.deckdesigns.de/minis/assault-gunboat/assault-gunboat.htm

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Assault-Gunboats-513673279

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Alpha-Xg-1-Assault-Gunboat-513565685

https://bswdaforums.runboard.com/t568

http://misc.thefullwiki.org/Assault_Gunboat

http://starforge.info/galactic-empire-ships/assault-gunboat-xg-1/

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85097.140

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76448.0

...shall I continue?

But it's "obscure"!

Yeah to some.

Those people want more ships from cartoons and the prequels. Guess they never experienced real video games like xwing and tie fighter. It's sad if they havnt. Maybe then they'd understand a bit

3 reasons the gunboat will NEVER be in the game:

1. Its non canon.

So far (since wave 8) FFG has stayed away from old EU stuff.

2. What role will it play?

Its basically a TIE punisher that looks like a lambda .

3. It's obscure.

Aside from ten crazy gunboat zealots on the FFG forums no one seems to have heard of this ship (except from said gunboat freaks)

Sorry guys but its the truth.

What?

1. Since wave 8? They haven't released anything since wave 8. We are still on wave 8 right now. X-wing is full of non-cannon ships, I fail to see them stop including them anytime soon.

2. The Gunboat is nothing like a Punisher. It is far closer to a B-Wing than anything else. Yes, it looks like a Lambda, the same company builds both.

3. You call a ship with 111 pages of people demanding the thing obscure? What the hell would you consider mainstream?

He probably wants the Naboo fighter and other prequel stuff. Lol.

Not true.

Some people want the N1, ARC etc and have put forth good ways to integrate them. They are canon ships. Some of them have a cool aesthetic.

There is some remarkably cool stuff in that list of links, by the way.

I stayed away from the 3rd party stuff, but there's some good work in there.

Aside from ten crazy gunboat zealots on the FFG forums no one seems to have heard of this ship..

No-one outside of these forums, eh? Hmmm....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-x-wing-alliance-upgrade-project/news/imperial-fighter-spotlight-assault-gunboat

http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/Starfighters/XG1%20StarWing%20Assault%20Gunboat/

https://armadashipyards.com/2015/09/28/xg-1-star-wing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1235266/no-assault-gunboat-or-tie-avenger

https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3tnoqn/why_isnt_the_assault_gunboat_in_xwing/

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=644674

http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assault_Gunboat

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/34432

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/alternate-dimensions/4009-imperial-assault-gunboat.html

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/112142-x-wing-series-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1220256/1270-scale-scratchbuilt-xg-1-star-wing-assault-gun

http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/samples22.html

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78568&st=25

http://galactic396.rssing.com/browser.php?indx=25574270&item=50

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/incom-t-65-x-wing-vs-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat.174202/

http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/Ed2RtS/Star-Wars-Alpha-Class-Xg-1

http://sw.deckdesigns.de/minis/assault-gunboat/assault-gunboat.htm

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Assault-Gunboats-513673279

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Alpha-Xg-1-Assault-Gunboat-513565685

https://bswdaforums.runboard.com/t568

http://misc.thefullwiki.org/Assault_Gunboat

http://starforge.info/galactic-empire-ships/assault-gunboat-xg-1/

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85097.140

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76448.0

...shall I continue?

But it's "obscure"!

Yeah to some.

Those people want more ships from cartoons and the prequels. Guess they never experienced real video games like xwing and tie fighter. It's sad if they havnt. Maybe then they'd understand a bit

You are putting words in my mouth did I say I wanted prequel ships? :angry:

Believe me I wish FFG would make more EU ships (TIE hunter, skipray) its just not likely.

If FFG can give the Gunboat a unique role in the Imperial faction I'd be fine with them making it.

Low cost small based ordnance and cannon carrier comparable to the BTLA4.

As opposed to high cost elite ship (T/D).

The first of those sentences probably appears at least 50 times in this thread.

Edited by DariusAPB

Low cost small based ordnance and cannon carrier comparable to the BTLA4.

As opposed to high cost elite ship (T/D).

The first of those sentences probably appears at least 50 times in this thread.

Empire already has two low cost small based ordnance carriers.

No cannon carriers though.

If FFG ever adds it to the game it might be cool.

The Skipray's on a lot of our lists as well. Imperial? Scum? Happy either way.

I'd be VERY surprised if FFG stayed away from the EU at this point (although people have been saying that for the past three or four waves).

a: because Rebels keeps bringing in and canonizing elements of the EU

b: because the Force Awakens releases have been announced and released seperately from the "regular" X-Wing waves so far.

The next Wave is coming, and we know it'll have EU ships in it, if only because FFG are committed to continuing to support Scum & Villany as a faqction.

The Skipray's on a lot of our lists as well. Imperial? Scum? Happy either way.

I'd be VERY surprised if FFG stayed away from the EU at this point (although people have been saying that for the past three or four waves).

a: because Rebels keeps bringing in and canonizing elements of the EU

b: because the Force Awakens releases have been announced and released seperately from the "regular" X-Wing waves so far.

The next Wave is coming, and we know it'll have EU ships in it, if only because FFG are committed to continuing to support Scum & Villany as a faction.

I hope Skipray is scum. I always think of it as a scummy kind of vessel

Aside from ten crazy gunboat zealots on the FFG forums no one seems to have heard of this ship..

No-one outside of these forums, eh? Hmmm....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-x-wing-alliance-upgrade-project/news/imperial-fighter-spotlight-assault-gunboat

http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/Starfighters/XG1%20StarWing%20Assault%20Gunboat/

https://armadashipyards.com/2015/09/28/xg-1-star-wing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1235266/no-assault-gunboat-or-tie-avenger

https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3tnoqn/why_isnt_the_assault_gunboat_in_xwing/

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=644674

http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assault_Gunboat

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/34432

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/alternate-dimensions/4009-imperial-assault-gunboat.html

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/112142-x-wing-series-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1220256/1270-scale-scratchbuilt-xg-1-star-wing-assault-gun

http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/samples22.html

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78568&st=25

http://galactic396.rssing.com/browser.php?indx=25574270&item=50

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/incom-t-65-x-wing-vs-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat.174202/

http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/Ed2RtS/Star-Wars-Alpha-Class-Xg-1

http://sw.deckdesigns.de/minis/assault-gunboat/assault-gunboat.htm

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Assault-Gunboats-513673279

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Alpha-Xg-1-Assault-Gunboat-513565685

https://bswdaforums.runboard.com/t568

http://misc.thefullwiki.org/Assault_Gunboat

http://starforge.info/galactic-empire-ships/assault-gunboat-xg-1/

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85097.140

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76448.0

...shall I continue?

But it's "obscure"!

Yeah to some.

Those people want more ships from cartoons and the prequels. Guess they never experienced real video games like xwing and tie fighter. It's sad if they havnt. Maybe then they'd understand a bit

You are putting words in my mouth did I say I wanted prequel ships? :angry:

Believe me I wish FFG would make more EU ships (TIE hunter, skipray) its just not likely.

If FFG can give the Gunboat a unique role in the Imperial faction I'd be fine with them making it.

Unique role? Know of any other imp craft we have that would have gunboat stats? Not the punisher..

Also how will more tie variants add more variety and flavor than a GB can for imps?

Not possible

I tend to agree on Skipray being scum, but can see it being cross faction.

I would be ok with that. The only Cross faction I dislike is Slave 1. I've mentioned my replacing it with a mel's escort shuttle at least once previously in this thread.

Edited by DariusAPB

Aside from ten crazy gunboat zealots on the FFG forums no one seems to have heard of this ship..

No-one outside of these forums, eh? Hmmm....

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alpha-class_Xg-1_Star_Wing

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-x-wing-alliance-upgrade-project/news/imperial-fighter-spotlight-assault-gunboat

http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/Starfighters/XG1%20StarWing%20Assault%20Gunboat/

https://armadashipyards.com/2015/09/28/xg-1-star-wing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1235266/no-assault-gunboat-or-tie-avenger

https://www.reddit.com/r/XWingTMG/comments/3tnoqn/why_isnt_the_assault_gunboat_in_xwing/

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=644674

http://www.stardestroyer.net/wiki/index.php?title=Assault_Gunboat

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/34432

http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/alternate-dimensions/4009-imperial-assault-gunboat.html

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/112142-x-wing-series-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat/

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1220256/1270-scale-scratchbuilt-xg-1-star-wing-assault-gun

http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/samples22.html

http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=78568&st=25

http://galactic396.rssing.com/browser.php?indx=25574270&item=50

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/incom-t-65-x-wing-vs-cygnus-xg-1-starwing-assault-gunboat.174202/

http://www.simpleplanes.com/a/Ed2RtS/Star-Wars-Alpha-Class-Xg-1

http://sw.deckdesigns.de/minis/assault-gunboat/assault-gunboat.htm

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Assault-Gunboats-513673279

http://fj4.deviantart.com/art/Alpha-Xg-1-Assault-Gunboat-513565685

https://bswdaforums.runboard.com/t568

http://misc.thefullwiki.org/Assault_Gunboat

http://starforge.info/galactic-empire-ships/assault-gunboat-xg-1/

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=85097.140

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=76448.0

...shall I continue?

But it's "obscure"!

Yeah to some.

Those people want more ships from cartoons and the prequels. Guess they never experienced real video games like xwing and tie fighter. It's sad if they havnt. Maybe then they'd understand a bit

You are putting words in my mouth did I say I wanted prequel ships? :angry:

Believe me I wish FFG would make more EU ships (TIE hunter, skipray) its just not likely.

If FFG can give the Gunboat a unique role in the Imperial faction I'd be fine with them making it.

Unique role? Know of any other imp craft we have that would have gunboat stats? Not the punisher..

Also how will more tie variants add more variety and flavor than a GB can for imps?

Not possible

TIE Hunters could have 4 agility (they have s-foils so you could throw in the legendary t-65 X-wing fix) that's pretty unique.

The GB is basically another ordnance carrier with a cannon but like I said earlier FFG can still make it cool

Edited by CorranHornfan

112 pages of 200 people wanting a ship is one thing.

112 pages of 12 people wanting a ship is another.

Is that all you choose to address?

Find that many people who wanted the Punisher or K wing.

I wanted the punisher

112 pages of 200 people wanting a ship is one thing.

112 pages of 12 people wanting a ship is another.

Is that all you choose to address?

Find that many people who wanted the Punisher or K wing.

I wanted the punisher

The Skipray's on a lot of our lists as well. Imperial? Scum? Happy either way.

It first appeared as an Imperial ship (Imperial Handbook) but the novels tended to treat it as a mostly-Scum ship. Possibly the Empire (or at least the Navy) weren't willing to make much use of it - resulting in it being sold massively on the open market.

112 pages of 200 people wanting a ship is one thing.

112 pages of 12 people wanting a ship is another.

Is that all you choose to address?

Find that many people who wanted the Punisher or K wing.

I wanted the punisher
Dude, I can't believe you admitted that.

I wanted it so much I bought two and have flown both.

The Skipray's on a lot of our lists as well. Imperial? Scum? Happy either way.

It first appeared as an Imperial ship (Imperial Handbook) but the novels tended to treat it as a mostly-Scum ship. Possibly the Empire (or at least the Navy) weren't willing to make much use of it - resulting in it being sold massively on the open market.

Yup, that pretty much sums up what the Wiki says about it as well. There's references to both Imperial (Kir Kanos) and Scum (Talon Karrde) owners and pilots.

It's an interesting ship, and presents the possibility of some unique abilities (Ion Primary?) as well as the potential for anm Imperial ship using the Turret upgrade.

Nebulon B was supposed to be Imperial as well, but where are the cross faction frigates in Armada?

Unfortunately Scum does not need another large ship. Skipray is cool tho. I'm pretty sure it could be emulated by Primary 2 att turret and two cannon slots with a special double cannon upgrade Heavy Ion Cannon. Not sure if it should do 2 damage and 2 ion per hit or just 2 ion plus damage rolled. (2 ion and 1 crit is possible too. 4 dice and it steps on HLC. 3 dice and it might not be worth it. Of course Torp and Missile slot, system, 2 crew, maybe a regular turret slot too.

To FFG, XG-1 Star Wing Assault Gunboat, please? And perhaps its sister vessel the XM-1 Nova Wing Missile Boat (not really called the Nova Wing, its a colloquial fan name).

I don't think Missile Boat could work. It would either be way too OP, or unworthy of the Missile Boat name for not being way too OP. ;)