I was really hoping for the xm-1 Missile Boat instead of the Punisher, because why have a fatter bomber when you could market a new model altogether?

Unfortunately, I have to agree that we're way more likely to see new models from Disney than old ones any more.

Ah well, some of those will probably be pretty cool anyway.

Assault Gunboat was a lot of things but it didn't have slam and is not the bomber you are looking for.

I was really hoping for the xm-1 Missile Boat instead of the Punisher, because why have a fatter bomber when you could market a new model altogether?

Unfortunately, I have to agree that we're way more likely to see new models from Disney than old ones any more.

Ah well, some of those will probably be pretty cool anyway.

Assault Gunboat was a lot of things but it didn't have slam and is not the bomber you are looking for.

He isn't talking about the gunboat. He's talking about the missile boat (which was developed from the gunboat). It's an awesome bomber and does indeed have SLAM.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Missile_Boat

Assault Gunboat was a lot of things but it didn't have slam and is not the bomber you are looking for.

Indeed, even when the Assault Gunboat could carry torpedo launchers or other ordnance, its default loadout were concussion or advanced missiles. Useful for neutralizing some capital target's escorts, outer guns or warhead launchers, or to fulfill their secondary role as reinforcement cavalry and scare away wings of attacking rebels, or pirates.

When they wanted to turn something into space dust, they sent the TIE Bombers with torpedoes, rockets or bombs.

Let's not forget that the Missile Boat was even rarer than the TIE Phantom, and it was specialized "anti-TIE Defender" craft, that happened to be also devastating against everything else.

He isn't talking about the gunboat. He's talking about the missile boat (which was developed from the gunboat). It's an awesome bomber and does indeed have SLAM. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Missile_Boat

Actually, it's not a bomber at all - not in the X-Wing Miniatures Game sense, anyway. Neither is the XG-1, for that matter.

Edit: reposting as it was apparently lost in the "last post on previous page" shuffle.

Unfortunately, I have to agree that we're way more likely to see new models from Disney than old ones any more.

OK, let's look at it this way.

The trailer for season 2 of Rebels shows an Imperial Immobiliser-418 Interdictor Cruiser in action - the first time it's been seen on TV or film in official Star Wars canon.

That particular ship was seen in the original X-Wing PC Game way back in 1993. I'm not sure if that was it's first appearance, but the XG-1 Assault Gunboat also appeared in that game.

If Disney can draw inspiration from Expanded Universe and canonize the Interdictor cruiser in the Rebels TV series over 20 years after it's appearence, they can sure as hell do exactly the same thing with the Assault Gunboat. It certainly fits quite neatly into the Rebels series timeline as well.

As for FFG themselves - well, they included both the Interdictor cruiser AND the Assault Gunboat (along with a number of other ships that have or could fit into the X-Wing Miniatures Game and/or Armada) in their Edge of the Empire sourcebook Fly Casual, which was released earlier this year. Take that for what it's worth.

Maybe the reason FFG has held off on the Assault Gunboat so far has been because the ship is due to appear in Rebels (or Rogue One), and, as such, Disney wants them to wait on that particular release in order to tie in with the TV series or film... let's face it, the Interdictor's appearance in Rebels pretty much guarantees it will turn up in Armada now at some point.

They definately will still be drawing from older stuff as well, I assume they will want to keep x-wing running during episode 7,8,9 at the very least and being as those movies are 3 years apart with what will only be so many new ships (use the OT as a baseline). Pulling from EU and classic stuff like the video game tie fighter with the gunboat and missile boat makes perfect sense to fill the gap between movies.

Yep. It's good to see that Disney are still using material from the older EU with their new projects as well.

The Immobilizer 418 / Interdictor has been in a bunch of things, starting with Heir to the Empire - a book of which we've already seen a few items leak in (Mara Jade most notably). We may yet see Skipray Blastboats, which came from the same book and who knows... Maybe the XG-1. Admittedly the XG-1 is from X-wing, TIE Fighter and really made a lot of appearances in XvT and XWA (The former as one half of a raiding squadron in half of the missions, and the latter as a very constant reminder of the Empires presence, in the form of long range patrols - usually paired with Skiprays).

I was really hoping for the xm-1 Missile Boat instead of the Punisher, because why have a fatter bomber when you could market a new model altogether?

Unfortunately, I have to agree that we're way more likely to see new models from Disney than old ones any more.

Ah well, some of those will probably be pretty cool anyway.

Assault Gunboat was a lot of things but it didn't have slam and is not the bomber you are looking for.

He isn't talking about the gunboat. He's talking about the missile boat (which was developed from the gunboat). It's an awesome bomber and does indeed have SLAM.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Missile_Boat

Uh, yeah, the post DID mention the gunboat, I altered it from the original to make it 'correct'. Look at the original post I quoted.

Maybe that's too complicated for this forum.

The Missile Boat was what I was thinking of, cheers. It'd be nice to see SLAM on more than one ship in the game.

FFG missed their opportunity at action parity when they released the Punisher. The seeming reluctance to stray from TIE designs is frustrating for fans of the xg-1 and others. The I-7 and A-9 aren't the prettiest fighters but they would lend to some variety. Even the Scimitar Bomber, though not technically a TIE design, is a ship that fits that aesthetic but has yet to appear...again with FFG choosing the Punisher.

Now I do like the Punisher, but... I fee it's a lazy design choice when given so many other choices for bombers or assault warhead platforms. I would also love to see many of the Clone Wars ships in Imperial colors but that's even less likely than a TIE Fighter 'most wanted' set with Gunboat, Missile Boat and TIE Avenger.

Now I do like the Punisher, but... I fee it's a lazy design choice when given so many other choices for bombers or assault warhead platforms. I would also love to see many of the Clone Wars ships in Imperial colors but that's even less likely than a TIE Fighter 'most wanted' set with Gunboat, Missile Boat and TIE Avenger.

I actually really dislike the Punisher design.

It just looks to me like an TIE Bomber with multiple hull pods and upscaled wings - and it's the wings that don't do it for me, it doesn't look like it's scaled correctly when alongside the other TIEs in the game.

Now I do like the Punisher, but... I fee it's a lazy design choice when given so many other choices for bombers or assault warhead platforms. I would also love to see many of the Clone Wars ships in Imperial colors but that's even less likely than a TIE Fighter 'most wanted' set with Gunboat, Missile Boat and TIE Avenger.

I actually really dislike the Punisher design.

It just looks to me like an TIE Bomber with multiple hull pods and upscaled wings - and it's the wings that don't do it for me, it doesn't look like it's scaled correctly when alongside the other TIEs in the game.

I dunno, the bent wings kinda scale of you line up the Advanced (blue one if you have it, I don't), Bomber and Punisher. Kind of an evolutionary line up of missile carrying TIEs, getting bigger and uglier.

I actually really dislike the Punisher design.

Not me. I think it's better than the Bomber, which I always kinda disliked because of it's asymmetry.

So, with the Immobilizer-418 Cruiser making it's canon debut in Rebels, I wonder if we'll see any other EU ships follow suit?

The time period fits, after all...

So, with the Immobilizer-418 Cruiser making it's canon debut in Rebels, I wonder if we'll see any other EU ships follow suit?

The time period fits, after all...

It would certainly be nice.

Well, FFG has already committed to making ships from Rebels (what with Wave 8's Ghost/Phantom, Inquisitor's TIE and Gozanti), so season 2 ships are probably on the horizon as well.

There's a Havoc-esque ship in the NYCC trailer. We already know the Havoc's in the pipeline for Armada, so chances are we'll see it in X-Wing. There's some Mandalorian ships in the trailer as well.

The look of the Interdictor in the trailer is taken straight from the X-Wing PC games as well. So while the new films are the source for new (or reimagined) ships, Disney are clearly drawing from the EU for inspiration for ships for the Rebels TV series - which is potentially great news for those EU ships that haven't been seen so far. The possibility always exists that they haven't been seen so far because their release is intended to tie in (not TIE/ln) with the Rebels show.

Is the Havoc-class Rebel or Imperial?

I heard it both ways.

Haven't the foggiest - although I've seen it mentioned for both Rebel & Scum.

I think there's a half-buried wreckage of something Gunboat-y in the background of the newest TFA trailer. Look in upper right of frame on that wide shot of the ruined Imperial hangar. And no, I'm not talking about the wrecked Lambda in the foreground.

Now my day is going to be spent looking for high-res trailer screenshots!

Yeah, i'd like to see that posted too...

Real quick, It's a Scurrg H-6 Bomber, not a Havoc Class. The Havoc is the unique prototype piloted by Nym.

Yes. The -class.

Are the Imperials going to get it?

If the Rebels get it we might get the Gunboat to compensate.

If not, meh. It's not a bad looking ship. Just not as good as some.

Kinda looks like a Manta Ray.

I imagine it'll be a Rebel ship; and the Gunboat being it's Imperial equivalent makes quite a bit of sense, actually!

I am anxious to see the Gunboat.

Speaking also about slam, SLAM would have been much better if the "disabled weapons token" doesn´t affect missiles and torpedoes.

That would make K wings much more dangerous and also would open the door for the Missile Boat also.

Imagine a group of Kwings that aproach a Raider or Gozanti at Slam Speed and fire torpedoes or cluster missiles the same round, and the next round move and slam again to escape.