14 hours ago, Kieransi said:

I second the motion. All in favor?

Aye.

7 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

No, English uses "they" for gender unknown. FFG used female pronouns all but once for Vynder, so I think it's safe to say that Vynder was intended to be female.

Historically, The pronoun "he" was used for gender unknown, although the language is shifting/has shifted away from this.

The One reason I find "he" superior to "they" is it is difficult to keep track of whether a "they" is singular or plural, especially confusing if there are multiple "they"s being discussed. However, and especially since using "they" is more common, it can be even more confusing when speaking of a "he" who actually is female - particularly when the person being spoken to is unaware that "he" is being used as "unknown"

I find language history interesting. I am not good at it, so correct me if I am wrong .

7 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

No, English uses "they" for gender unknown. FFG used female pronouns all but once for Vynder, so I think it's safe to say that Vynder was intended to be female.

It seems to be a contested subject:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_antecedent

To my impression, whenever FFG has made up one of those "quoted callsign" pilots, they have referred to it as "she". I always assumed it was a way to be inclusive with the gender of the unknown, made-up, pilot. But now I am not sure anymore.

4 hours ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

Historically, The pronoun "he" was used for gender unknown, although the language is shifting/has shifted away from this.

The One reason I find "he" superior to "they" is it is difficult to keep track of whether a "they" is singular or plural, especially confusing if there are multiple "they"s being discussed. However, and especially since using "they" is more common, it can be even more confusing when speaking of a "he" who actually is female - particularly when the person being spoken to is unaware that "he" is being used as "unknown"

I find language history interesting. I am not good at it, so correct me if I am wrong .

Let's not derail over something as meaningless as pronouns, have more than enough of that elsewhere.

On 1/23/2018 at 8:42 AM, clanofwolves said:

I'm in....

errr, Aye!

On 1/23/2018 at 8:49 AM, Dabirdisdaword said:

Aye

23 hours ago, Yakostovian said:

Arrrr.

Oy. Wrong fandom.

"Aye"

10 hours ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

Aye.

The "aye"'s have it! All hail the Spamgler Boats!

I should really start practising with my Gunboats if I want to take them to the System Open...

2 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

I should really start practising with my Gunboats if I want to take them to the System Open...

Yeah, after this whole thread, your list better have at least one real GUNBOAT (XG-1 title) in it!

Just now, Kieransi said:

Yeah, after this whole thread, your list better have at least one real GUNBOAT (XG-1 title) in it!

Well, the current plan is 2 x GUNBOAT, 2 x DEFENDER, but I need to get those games in

I only have one gunboat, as I rarely buy more than one of any expansion (so far my only exceptions are the Y-Wing and protectorate) so the Gunboat may become my first imperial to receive second copy status. I'm still debating.

15 hours ago, Yakostovian said:

I only have one gunboat, as I rarely buy more than one of any expansion (so far my only exceptions are the Y-Wing and protectorate) so the Gunboat may become my first imperial to receive second copy status. I'm still debating.

Debating? What is this, a democracy? Go and get an extra Gunboat to defend the Empire, pilot!

9 minutes ago, Kharnete said:

Debating? What is this, a democracy? Go and get an extra Gunboat to defend the Empire, pilot!

I think three is the minimum number of GUNBOATS

3 minutes ago, xulfus said:

I think three is the minimum number of GUNBOATS

So long as you can find any to buy... (It took me ages to get mine!)

13 minutes ago, Kharnete said:

Debating? What is this, a democracy? Go and get an extra Gunboat to defend the Empire, pilot!

At this point, there can't be that many out there still available...

Just now, FTS Gecko said:

At this point, there can't be that many out there still available...

My store has a few - I think they majorly restocked after the initial (and complete) sell out.

But my FLGS is about 13,000 km away from you.

You'll need a gunboat to get one...

2 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

At this point, there can't be that many out there still available...

Just think Ffg how well the missile boat and tie avenger will sell ?

2 minutes ago, Hobojebus said:

Just think Ffg how well the missile boat and tie avenger will sell ?

Missile Boat = Gunboat Aces pack.

51 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:

Missile Boat = Gunboat Aces pack.

The Missile Boat is in the gunboat title already - along with SLAM

Has anybody used Ion Cannon XG-1s yet? I'm thinking about running this list tonight in a casual game:

Deathrain + collision detector + unguided rockets + bomblet generator + LWF = 33

Vynder + PTL + OS-1 + APT + unguided rockets + advanced SLAM = 41

Rho + XG-1 + ion cannon + tractor beam = 26

Like I said, casual, but I like the idea of using ion/tractor beam to set up Deathrain's bombs and Vynder's APT.

Here's another iteration which swaps out Vynder for a similarly kitted Rho, but has two Rhos for support:

Rho + PTL + OS-1 + APT + harpoon + advanced SLAM + extra munitions = 40

2* Rho + XG-1 + harpoon + ion cannon + tractor beam = 30 each

You could also drop extra munitions on the OS-1 Rho for crack shot on the other two, which might be better.

5 hours ago, xulfus said:

I think three is the minimum number of GUNBOATS

I think three is the perfect number. In most of the video game levels I can remember, the GUNBOATS usually flew in squads of three (that's how I'm painting mine - in sets of three).

5 hours ago, Infinite_Maelstrom said:

So long as you can find any to buy... (It took me ages to get mine!)

I'm sorry. I bought nine of them. If there's any other people like me, you're going to have trouble finding them. Still kinda want three more - 12 seems like a nice even number... but I have a multiple of three so I guess I'm ok. I just think I'm gonna run out of 'BOATs to paint disturbingly quickly.

I wonder what would have happened if they had given the GUNBOAT the jam action from epic? I mean, the Auzituck Gunship got reinforce...

4 minutes ago, impspy said:

I wonder what would have happened if they had given the GUNBOAT the jam action from epic? I mean, the Auzituck Gunship got reinforce...

If any small ship gets the Jam Action, it'll be Eagle 5.

55 minutes ago, impspy said:

I wonder what would have happened if they had given the GUNBOAT the jam action from epic? I mean, the Auzituck Gunship got reinforce...

But we got the useless Jamming Beam instead!

quite frankly i like the nonepic jam rules i just hate the only two ways to apply them atm.

Scrambler Missile should have been assign 3 jams to the target - totally worth sacrificing an attack to royally shaft someone's tokens for awhile.
Jamming Beam should have been 1-3 and 5die to make it very difficult to evade, basically trading a shot for anti-token (would be very useful if the opponent only had a Targetlock and was about to torpedo someone's butt). Its literally the least impacting 0damage cannon as it has no repositioning or prevents dials being assigned, it SHOULD be accurate as ****

Sadly, Scrambler for some reason is an aoe and easily evaded
Sadly, Jamming Beam is 1-2 range, easily evaded, and has 0 reason to use it over your main gun EXCEPT in the above situation, but usually the target is R3 or has other tokens too.

If they give us access to something that is as simple as Action: R1-2, assign a jam token - you'd be surprised how ridiculous that token would be.

Rule is fine, weapons suck balls.

2 hours ago, impspy said:

I wonder what would have happened if they had given the GUNBOAT the jam action from epic? I mean, the Auzituck Gunship got reinforce...

We had a discussion about that possibility about... oh... 100 or so pages back. The Epic version of Jam is pretty powerful, maybe too powerful to be spamable in standard play