XG-1 "Star Wing" Assault Gunboat Thread

By FTS Gecko, in X-Wing

The GUNBOAT is BEAUTIFUL! (but surprisingly small :) )

https://imgur.com/a/RaQRP

It's supposed to be a fighter. :)

I posted this on other thread, but maybe here is more appropiate:

Today, thinking about the budget Nu Gunboat seen in Austin(?) (Harpoon + LRS) = 22p

Has anyone tried the budget Rho Gunboat similar to this? (Harpoon+Deadeye+GC) =26p? Or it gets too expensive?

57 minutes ago, Malasombra said:

I posted this on other thread, but maybe here is more appropiate:

Today, thinking about the budget Nu Gunboat seen in Austin(?) (Harpoon + LRS) = 22p

Has anyone tried the budget Rho Gunboat similar to this? (Harpoon+Deadeye+GC) =26p? Or it gets too expensive?

Too Expansive I would say as you could get also this for 26Points:
NU+XG1+HLC+LRS

8 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:

Too Expansive I would say as you could get also this for 26Points:
NU+XG1+HLC+LRS

Good point. And no need for reloadsies...

Uh oh. Not front page anymore... everyone in their post gunboat bliss too busy gazing at models to post?

Those other fake Gunboat threads are stealing all our posts!

Also, tiny, tiny TLJ spoiler (I'll put it in the brackets to be safe):

anyone see it? Does anyone else want to photoshop two more wings onto that little First Order shuttle in every single frame it shows up in?

Just repainted mine (red rockets and red engines) and they do look unexpectedly nice. FFG really pulled it off.

11 minutes ago, MaxPower said:

Just repainted mine (red rockets and red engines) and they do look unexpectedly nice. FFG really pulled it off.

I hate to ask this, but where are the engines? I've never gotten a consensus opinion on the FFG model.

Also, we are all greedy for pics! Post 'em here or here:

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6 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I hate to ask this, but where are the engines? I've never gotten a consensus opinion on the FFG model.

Also, we are all greedy for pics! Post 'em here or here:

Or actually there might be a showcase: Gunboat thread soon too.

Ill try to upload picks, but I really only painted the engines and rockets red, nothing more.

For the engine color and position I used karsabis artwork as a reference.

I type to you from a brand new Chromebook!

The models are incredible. Some of the best ever. I have to buy some more to paint them up all differently.

I have a confession: I didn't buy any gunboats...yet! They are definitely next in the purchasing queue, but I ran out of disposable income.

NEVERTHELESS, I am going to put some A-wings on the table to fight somebody's triple Rho Harpoon squad tonight, and drink in the TIE fighter nostalgia! I'll also take pictures of my A-wings getting torn to pieces by the mighty gunboats, which will be fun to show to all of you.

4 minutes ago, Parakitor said:

I have a confession: I didn't buy any gunboats.

I refuse to like this post. I refuse to even read the rest of it.

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I LOVE THIS CHROMEBOOK ITS SO FAST!!!
1 minute ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I refuse to like this post. I refuse to even read the rest of it.

Well, I can't really say I blame you. I'm such a hypocrite.

So I tried out a 5 gunboat list. 3 flechette cannons, 2 naked, except for LRS on everyone. Went up against a guri +Fen mindlinked to the PS7 kimogilla.

Had some awful grreen dice early (like, one paint in first 8 dice), still managed to bring it down to 3 health Fen (no mindlink) vs 2 cannonless, shield down boats before we called it.

On ‎19‎/‎06‎/‎2015 at 8:06 PM, FTS Gecko said:

Thanks, but I'm having a real hard time justifying the Cannon Upgrade slot. Having an Ion slot makes sense thematically & canonically, but Mangler/HLC/Autoblasters etc doesn't...

It is as I feared...

...picked up my Gunboats on Wednesday, played a couple of games on Thursday and, well, in terms of competitive usage I really can't look any further than the HLC.

Rho with HLC/Linked/Crackshot or Lightning Reflexes is basically superior to every other build as far as I can tell. As @Biophysical has pointed out elsewhere, Ordnance boats are currently DOA in comparison, because almost anything they can do, HLCs can do better, more reliably and with less set up.

At least we have an answer now to "Why is the Arc Caster Rebel/Scum only?". That thing on an Advanced SLAMing Gunboat would be brutal.

All that said, I love the models, and am looking forward to seeing what else the community can come up with. SHE HAS ARRIVED!

I really don't think arccaster would matter on any platform

even the boat at lower PS wouldn't guarantee it going off, and EVEN then it can always just short circuit back on the boat itself

all for what? four dice? you can get the same with any 3 dice primary!

Oh, I didn't say it justified the decision to make it Rebel/Scum only. Just that it explained it.

While I also believe hlc is the way to go, and have been saying as much before linked was even spoiled

Perhaps targeting synch could make ordnance easier to use

27 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

While I also believe hlc is the way to go, and have been saying as much before linked was even spoiled

Perhaps targeting synch could make ordnance easier to use

Targeting Synch is how I run my ordnance gunboat now and it does the trick.

The main drawback of a HLC gunboat is the cost as ordnance boat is usually 4-6 points cheaper so can fill a spot HLC gunboat can't.

1 hour ago, PT106 said:

The main drawback of a HLC gunboat is the cost as ordnance boat is usually 4-6 points cheaper so can fill a spot HLC gunboat can't.

Hmm. That depends. XG-1 + HLC = 8 points, or 10 with Linked Batteries. You're probably taking LRS as the mod for the fully-modified alpha shots...

...now, while you can run an ordnance boat with just Harpoons (which would be the 4-6 points cheaper you mention), you're more likely going to want Advanced SLAM at least to help with the ordnance boat's action deficiencies. You could also potentially be looking at OS-1 and Push the Limit for a total of 11 points, since unlike HLC, the use of ordnance is tied strictly into your available actions (just like the ship's repositioning ability).

So ordnance builds can be cheaper, but unless you pile on the points you're going to be firing once every three turns, at best.

I would love to run Ion Cannons on my gunboats, but they don't work with the title, and at that point why not just go HLC? If the Ion Cannon didn't break /d, it won't break XG-1.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

Hmm. That depends. XG-1 + HLC = 8 points, or 10 with Linked Batteries. You're probably taking LRS as the mod for the fully-modified alpha shots...

...now, while you can run an ordnance boat with just Harpoons (which would be the 4-6 points cheaper you mention), you're more likely going to want Advanced SLAM at least to help with the ordnance boat's action deficiencies. You could also potentially be looking at OS-1 and Push the Limit for a total of 11 points, since unlike HLC, the use of ordnance is tied strictly into your available actions (just like the ship's repositioning ability).

So ordnance builds can be cheaper, but unless you pile on the points you're going to be firing once every three turns, at best.

I'm running Targeting Synchronizer. So GC and no title. And to work around reload deficiency I'm running Karsabi, so he can harpoon after slam or reload (and a good package overall for 29 pts)

EDIT: Essentially, in my mind if your ordnance build isn't cheaper than a comparable cannon build, you're doing it wrong. Therefore I don't feel that OS1/PTL and/or Adv SLAM are worth the points on an ordnance boat.

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6 hours ago, PT106 said:

I'm running Targeting Synchronizer. So GC and no title. And to work around reload deficiency I'm running Karsabi, so he can harpoon after slam or reload (and a good package overall for 29 pts)

EDIT: Essentially, in my mind if your ordnance build isn't cheaper than a comparable cannon build, you're doing it wrong. Therefore I don't feel that OS1/PTL and/or Adv SLAM are worth the points on an ordnance boat.

...but if you're running Targeting Synchronizer, you're effectively relying on an entire other ship to get around the Gunboat's action efficency problems when it comes to ordnance.

Out of interest, what's your TS build?

6 hours ago, HolySorcerer said:

I would love to run Ion Cannons on my gunboats, but they don't work with the title, and at that point why not just go HLC? If the Ion Cannon didn't break /d, it won't break XG-1.

Couldn't agree more. In fact, TIE/D is an entire order of magnitude better than XG-1, and it's currently underutilised.