Since the preview of Wave 8 and the Inquisitor's alternate advanced TIE I wonder if Imperial Z-95s can be a thing as long as they are listed as 'Imperial Headhunters' and have the clone wars model instead of the AF-4 variant. Would they be imperial enough?

And I'm still not understanding the SWG bias towards inclusion in expansions when T-wings, R-41s and FREAKING ASSAULT GUNBOAT AND MISSILE BOAT should have been wave 5/6. Would the X-wing minis game even be a thing if it wasn't for the fans of the old X-wing sims growing up and being willing to buy little plastic toys to zoom around on a table?

Counterpoint: the R-41 and T-wing are boring designs with no role to play in X-wing Minis.

Counter-counter point: opinions are not facts

Counter-counter-counter-counter-counter-counter point: the TIE Interceptor (Fighter with dagger wings), Defender (three winged interceptor) and Pilunisher (nuff said) are uninspired copies of previous designs, and the E-wing is half an X-wing.

See how easy it is?

I actually really like the R-41, and the T-wing is pretty embedded in legends canon now, it ain't going nowhere. (AND it was in Galaxies towards the end there).

The x v t games were great at the time. Jump to lightspeed was lightyears better.

I liked SWG, I really did. I enjoyed JTS.

BUT:

Are you ******* high?

POBs were better, big ships were better. The small ship game was grossly simplified.

and Yes, I was in the PVP game, i knew my stuff, I had the most feared ship on the intrepid server at one point. So I'm not saying this from a john snow perspective.

JTl at the end boiled down to who can get a lucky hit in a turn war, or who could nail somones reactor with a missile, or who was a clever sod in a Y-wing making them chase you right into the overpowered turret.

JTS was ok, we have astromechs, rebel commands are useless - ask freelancers and imperials for theirs.

JTS was flying around killing respawning ships for no real progress, or playdates for actual PVP battles.

Yeah, getting together for cyssk runs or soloing cyssk was fun. But come on, the unplayable for 6 months YT2400 cause of the engine bug. the hitbox bug with the RGI, the JSF spam...

There are so many abbreviations in this post that it is unreadable.

Well pewpew i guess from now on english will be evolved into three to four letter words Not that texting has helped any at all.

I'm fairly sure every large game be it an MMO, FPS, RTS or Tabletop (or evidently the genre itself given the acronyms) has it's own lingo and acronyms to keep track of terms. Hell, X-wing has it's fair share.

Plus, for perspective someone needs to go read an old Emperor's Hammer SIG. From someone high ranking.

<MoV><BBQ><SSD Triton><RADML> <DIPSHITONTOAST> (and they only got more ridiculous).

Indeed, while on the subject of acronyms - they aren't a new thing, and excessive use isn't something millennials invented (clearly, i'm a generation older). Look at people with Doctorates, degrees and Knighthoods...

Well pewpew i guess from now on english will be evolved into three to four letter words Not that texting has helped any at all.

If we can't communicate then no, we haven't evolved English here.

I do agree with both of you. This was a failed attempt at a little humor.

I do recognize how the military has used acronyms for many years now that it has been brought up DariusAPB . I still think that is some ways Engilsh has changed some at least in my lifetime going back to the '70s. There are some small changes in terminology though.

The x v t games were great at the time. Jump to lightspeed was lightyears better.

I liked SWG, I really did. I enjoyed JTS.

BUT:

Are you ******* high?

POBs were better, big ships were better. The small ship game was grossly simplified.

and Yes, I was in the PVP game, i knew my stuff, I had the most feared ship on the intrepid server at one point. So I'm not saying this from a john snow perspective.

JTl at the end boiled down to who can get a lucky hit in a turn war, or who could nail somones reactor with a missile, or who was a clever sod in a Y-wing making them chase you right into the overpowered turret.

JTS was ok, we have astromechs, rebel commands are useless - ask freelancers and imperials for theirs.

JTS was flying around killing respawning ships for no real progress, or playdates for actual PVP battles.

Yeah, getting together for cyssk runs or soloing cyssk was fun. But come on, the unplayable for 6 months YT2400 cause of the engine bug. the hitbox bug with the RGI, the JSF spam...

There are so many abbreviations in this post that it is unreadable.

The x v t games were great at the time. Jump to lightspeed was lightyears better.

I liked SWG, I really did. I enjoyed JTS.

BUT:

Are you ******* high?

POBs were better, big ships were better. The small ship game was grossly simplified.

and Yes, I was in the PVP game, i knew my stuff, I had the most feared ship on the intrepid server at one point. So I'm not saying this from a john snow perspective.

JTl at the end boiled down to who can get a lucky hit in a turn war, or who could nail somones reactor with a missile, or who was a clever sod in a Y-wing making them chase you right into the overpowered turret.

JTS was ok, we have astromechs, rebel commands are useless - ask freelancers and imperials for theirs.

JTS was flying around killing respawning ships for no real progress, or playdates for actual PVP battles.

Yeah, getting together for cyssk runs or soloing cyssk was fun. But come on, the unplayable for 6 months YT2400 cause of the engine bug. the hitbox bug with the RGI, the JSF spam...

There are so many abbreviations in this post that it is unreadable.

You're saying you can't make the intuitive leaps necessary to read it, though.

I've only played SWGemu (a bit, once I realised they didn't have JTL), but I can still handle 90% of the acronyms, and the ones I can't I can search).

Counterpoint: the R-41 and T-wing are boring designs with no role to play in X-wing Minis.

I'm running two from Mel and I beg to differ. They look great and I love using them to stage TIE Fighter missions.

A slightly less complicated version of the Lego Gunboat from the previous page?

A slightly less complicated version of the Lego Gunboat from the previous page?

eh, futzed up the canopy pretty badly.

(I just wanted one that folds right, also 15 minutes)

I like these Minimalist Gunboats.

Noooooo the thread is disappearing from the front page! Keep it alive, push it, do anything to slap it in the face of FFG - we WANT the Gunboat!

But the Gunboat is only the beginning...

Missile Boat and Escort Shuttle will keep this thread alive afterwards.

Escort Shuttle is just as bad as the Sentinel tbh

But the Gunboat is only the beginning...

Missile Boat and Escort Shuttle will keep this thread alive afterwards.

I want all three of those, although the verdict is out on the escort shuttle until I see Fractalsponge's final version. I know he sold me on the gunboat and missile boat, so I expect he will do the escort shuttle justice.

eh, futzed up the canopy pretty badly.

It's also got two sets of wing cannons, which is clearly a no-no.

Maybe this needs to become the official "We Love Cygnus Spaceworks" thread. The Lambda-class T4-A Shuttle aka Alabaster Space Cow is canon - there is no escaping this fact. Now we just want to see it joined by the rest of it's extended family.

Wave IX: The Swan Dive.

Gun boat, missile boat, escort shuttle (for both scum and rebels) and captured shuttle for rebels.

I'd actually really like to see a Rebel Lambda.

But yes.

Gunboat and Delta fans.

GIVE US CYGNUS, OR GIVE US DEATH!

Wave IX: The Swan Dive.

Gun boat, missile boat, escort shuttle (for both scum and rebels) and captured shuttle for rebels.

8, 4 and 4 copies respectively reserved for me please!

**** Escort Shuttle for Scum and Rebels! Those factions both have more Large ships than they know what to do with already!

**** Escort Shuttle for Scum and Rebels! Those factions both have more Large ships than they know what to do with already!

Rebels = 3

Imperial = 3

Scum = 4

It's pretty close, actually.

EDIT: And that is only after waves 7 and 8 come out. Currently, Imperial have the most.

That's right, I keep forgetting Imperials have a Firespray...

Whatever! There's a YT-2000 there for someone! Leave the Cygnus ships to the Empire!

That's right, I keep forgetting Imperials have a Firespray...

Whatever! There's a YT-2000 there for someone! Leave the Cygnus ships to the Empire!

I agree. Just because the Rebels or Scum captured one or two shuttles doesn't mean that should be a main ship in their faction. There is nothing stopping people from letting Rebels or Scum use Imperial ships in special scenarios and casual games.

The Rebel Nebulon B Frigate, one of many stolen or captured from the Empire from Armada says hello.

The Rebel Nebulon B Frigate, one of many stolen or captured from the Empire from Armada says hello.

If you want to go down that route, then any ship should be usable by any faction. The point is, we only ever see the Frigate being used by Rebels in the movies, so most people recognize it as a Rebel ship.