I think it's weird for a totalitarian dictatorship that controls everything to even have "companies" making their military hardware in the first place.
You'd think the Imperial military would research and build all of it's own hardware.
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3 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:I think it's weird for a totalitarian dictatorship that controls everything to even have "companies" making their military hardware in the first place.
You'd think the Imperial military would research and build all of it's own hardware.
A dictator enjoys having a bunch of industrial companies fighting for the best deals with the leader and trying to gain his favor and deprive their competitors from it. He would frequently promote corruption in their ranks, to keep them eating from his hand, but also to use it as a weapon against them in case he needs to threaten them with exposure or loss of priviledges.
It fuels his ego, it keeps them competitive, and it prevents them from allying with each other or supporting his enemies.
Nationalizing industries and putting some military servant on charge would remove all of that, and also lead to loss of efficiency and know-how, since the highest ranks of the Empire didn't reach there by their talent or merits, but by backstabbing and plotting. Just a bunch of yes men without the background or motivation to do their best.
Just look at how was it in WWII, in Germany, in Italy, in Japan, or even in Spain.
1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:That hurts, Azrapse. That really hurts.
1 hour ago, FlyingAnchors said:From a lore standpoint, having two companies fight for contracts with the empire seemed close to real world setting. (Boeing vs Northrop Grumman)
Cygnus spaceworks had allot of neat designs to in old EU.
It really does hurt.
It hurts a lot.
I don't really get the point of flattening the lore.
The whole foundation of the Sequel Trilogy seems to be the dumbing down of the Star Wars lore to maximum simplification, repetition, and reiteration.
It seems designed by comitee like if it were a marketing campaign, more than a living world.
It reaches almost Goebbelian levels with its Repeat, Simplify, Rewrite the history.
If Cygnus really has been thrown out (surely that can't be the case? Surely there must be some canon material which refers to the manufacturer of the Lambda) then the Star Wars Universe is a poorer place for it.
Also, I am much more interested in the Han Solo movie than I am The Last Jedi. Rogue One confirmed for me that I am much more interested in seeing Rebellion era stories.
42 minutes ago, FTS Gecko said:If Cygnus really has been thrown out (surely that can't be the case? Surely there must be some canon material which refers to the manufacturer of the Lambda) then the Star Wars Universe is a poorer place for it.
Also, I am much more interested in the Han Solo movie than I am The Last Jedi. Rogue One confirmed for me that I am much more interested in seeing Rebellion era stories.
You're probably more interested because it has the highest probability of a GLORIOUS GUNBOAT appearing in the movie.
1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:If Cygnus really has been thrown out (surely that can't be the case? Surely there must be some canon material which refers to the manufacturer of the Lambda) then the Star Wars Universe is a poorer place for it.
Also, I am much more interested in the Han Solo movie than I am The Last Jedi. Rogue One confirmed for me that I am much more interested in seeing Rebellion era stories.
Nope, like all things right now though all they have is a blurb:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cygnus_Spaceworks
But they are canon, so there's more to be expanded on later.
They outfitted Tarkins personal star ship which was then stolen by the rebels.
At least they don't seem to be the ones building any of the shuttles anymore. The entries for all of them list Sienar as the designer and manufacturer.
2 hours ago, Azrapse said:At least they don't seem to be the ones building any of the shuttles anymore. The entries for all of them list Sienar as the designer and manufacturer.
I just realized...do we not have signatures anymore?
16 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:I just realized...do we not have signatures anymore?
Nope. (the new forum doesn't support sigs)
51 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:I just realized...do we not have signatures anymore?
AW dude we don't what the hell. This new Facebookening SUCKS.
On 13.5.2017 at 11:56 PM, Odanan said:Nope. (the new forum doesn't support sigs)
What the actual ****?!
On 5/11/2017 at 9:24 PM, Azrapse said:At least they don't seem to be the ones building any of the shuttles anymore. The entries for all of them list Sienar as the designer and manufacturer.
Well that's a fat load of ****! Seriously?! It's like new canon was being worked on and created by noobs. Dumbing everything down because they, themselves, can't wrap their tiny little brains around how a dictatorship works. Nazi Germany had several companies competing for contracts, Soviet Russia did the same, and Imperialist Japan as well.
Yeah I like the idea that several companies are competent to build better ships, it promotes competitiveness and means that the technology has to keep evolving to outplay the opposing business. Otherwise technology may stagnate and te empire wouldn't have the same motivation to keep enhancing their technologies. It also allows the emporer to use all his personal for military purposes rather than assigning a bunch of his brightest to be engineers.
Do we have any word on what company builds the first order ships?
5 minutes ago, Quadjumper King said:Do we have any word on what company builds the first order ships?
At least we still have the wonderful Omicron Group Pilot card.
"Omicron Group was a group of shuttles in the Imperial Navy that served the Galactic Empire during the Galactic Civil War. It was present at the attack on the Missile Boat convoy, where they engaged rogue Grand Admiral Zaarin's government fleet.
Appearances: X-Wing: TIE Fighter (first appearance)"
Now if only they could be joined by their comrades from Rho Squadron...
How competitive would be 5 of those?
2 minutes ago, Odanan said:How competitive would be 5 of those?
Very, as your oponent should cower in fear of the sheer awesomeness of the GUNBOAT!
16 minutes ago, Odanan said:How
competitiveAWESOME would be 5 of those?
Very.
I'll buy 15 and finally try epic. 
41 minutes ago, Odanan said:How competitive would be 5 of those?
Where's the dial? So, you would always cancel a hit/crit for the ion, or is it just an option?
On 05/11/2017 at 6:04 PM, Azrapse said:It seems designed by comitee like if it were a marketing campaign, more than a living world.
Yeah. Almost as if some corporation was in charge, rather than an artist.
3 minutes ago, Helias de Nappo said:Yeah. Almost as if some corporation was in charge, rather than an MARKETING AND MERCHANDIZING GENIUS.
On 5/11/2017 at 4:38 PM, DarthEnderX said:I think it's weird for a totalitarian dictatorship that controls everything to even have "companies" making their military hardware in the first place.
You'd think the Imperial military would research and build all of it's own hardware.
You misunderstand the nature of Totalitarianism completely. You can't rule as a dictator without having an in circle of backers that help you maintain power. Industrial elites are a good set of backers to have, you can funnel the money you squeeze from the country into them to get their support and in exchange get tanks and stuff to help control the people. It's win win.
36 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:So, you would always cancel a hit/crit for the ion, or is it just an option?
The wording there makes it not optional.
Makes sense as it's essentially giving your primary weapon +1. And it's also 1 point cheaper than an Ion Cannon but with the ability to do far more damage.
Though also potentially zero damage. I've changed my mind, I don't like it. The Gunboat should have no drawbacks! 
1 hour ago, GrimmyV said:MARKETING AND MERCHANDIZING GENIUS
That's true too, but he is an artist, however flawed.