... The Ghost only had to pump a couple of volleys into a Gonzanti to destroy it (although the Ghost would probably take down the Executor if the two fought it out in a Rebels episode). They just didn't have the durability to fight anything more powerful than Phoenix Squadron (and that's saying a lot!)....

To be fair, a certain someone in a TIE Adv curbstomped an entire squadron of A-Wings single handed, destroyed the Rebel command ship, and effectively routed the entire Rebel fleet.

...all with a single fighter.

So, the show is not entirely slanted in the Ghost crews favor.

Too bad he didn't do it in a Gunboat.

Is that canon?

It is in the material where the Gunboat exists, and since we're talking about the Gunboat, that's the only material that matters.

HOWEVER... when we're talking about "official" (yes, it deserves the inverted commas) Star Wars canon, then none of the stories released so far cover the time period where the Alliance gained the X-Wing. Rebels is approaching it, and Rogue One is set after it.. although we may find out more in December. Certainly the Partisan X-Wing has a very Imperial colour scheme...

Back to Gozantis and the "change" in Imperial doctrine. That's a fallacy. The Empire's use of Gozanti Armed Transports and Arquitens-class Transports in The Clone Wars and Rebels TV Shows does not represent a change in the classic Imperial doctrine. These shows are prequels to the Star Wars trilogy, and as such the use of these ships represents a PRECURSOR to the classic Imperial doctrine.

Modified Gozantis as TIE carriers were clearly useful to the Empire in it's infancy, when all they were facing were Clone-Wars era ships and rag-tag groups of individuals. However, once the arms race with the Rebellion escalated,these ships would struggle to pull their weight against an equivalent value in hyperspace-capable snubfighters.

One Gozanti carrying four TIEs would be no match for a small Rebel strikeforce (say two X-Wings and two Y-Wings, although I imagine even fewer ships would be able to manage it with ease).

... The Ghost only had to pump a couple of volleys into a Gonzanti to destroy it (although the Ghost would probably take down the Executor if the two fought it out in a Rebels episode). They just didn't have the durability to fight anything more powerful than Phoenix Squadron (and that's saying a lot!)....

To be fair, a certain someone in a TIE Adv curbstomped an entire squadron of A-Wings single handed, destroyed the Rebel command ship, and effectively routed the entire Rebel fleet.

...all with a single fighter.

So, the show is not entirely slanted in the Ghost crews favor.

Too bad he didn't do it in a Gunboat.

Well to be fair, it WAS Phoenix Squadron, who if added to X-Wing would be the only pilots with an innate immunity to the Damaged Cockpit crit. And this was done by the same pilot that solo'd a Droid Control battleship when he was still in diapers.

Still, if Vader had been flying a Gunboat he'd probably have killed the Corvettes and left the Ghost ionized and waiting for pickup by the Inquisitors.

So I got my Shapeways FUD XG-1 Assault GUNBOAT in yesterday, and my group has started a Imperial HotAC campain. I have a pilot card made for it and my missle boat, but we are trying to come up with a dial for them. What ship, from any faction, has a dial that best fits the GUNBOAT and Missile Boat?

For the Gunboat, I'd suggest a dial that's a cross between the Y-Wing and X-Wing.

There's some suggestions on page one

For the Gunboat, I'd suggest a dial that's a cross between the Y-Wing and X-Wing.

There's some suggestions on page one

I'm not looking for cross or fan-mad. I'm asking what existing dial best fits the gunboat and missile boat. Can be Imp, Rebel, or scum.

In that case, Y-Wing.

Surely it'd be the ARC dial? Doesn't feel like it should be quite Y-sluggish on greens.

Good point, yeah, ARC is the better choice.

Good point, yeah, ARC is the better choice.

Urgh but then you have to buy an arc...

Prequel ship design deserves love too!

Good point, yeah, ARC is the better choice.

Urgh but then you have to buy an arc...

already got one; it's one of the best looking models released so far IMHO

If you don't want to buy an ARC-170, I'd say the TIE/SF's dial should match the gunboat's maneuverability.

In fact, also it's stats, upgrade bar (exchange the Tech for the Cannon), and action bar.

A TIE/SF without rear arc is the closest thing the Imperial faction has to the gunboat in this game.

If you don't want to buy an ARC-170, I'd say the TIE/SF's dial should match the gunboat's maneuverability.

In fact, also it's stats, upgrade bar (exchange the Tech for the Cannon), and action bar.

A TIE/SF without rear arc is the closest thing the Imperial faction has to the gunboat in this game.

Actually you could argue that the guns on the top wing can fire backwards.

Ideally, if I could change two things on the TIE/SF to make it a Gunboat, I would replace the rear arc for a frontal 180 special only cannon-arc. The other thing would be the title to do more damage with the 1-3 points cannons (but not a copy of TIE/D).

However, seen that the cannon seems to be mounted on a spherical hardpoint, it would not be crazy if this ship could fire its cannon backwards. Then even the pilot templates could be used to proxy it.

Good point, yeah, ARC is the better choice.

Urgh but then you have to buy an arc...

already got one; it's one of the best looking models released so far IMHO

Who are you and how did you access my friends account? Never mind I've called the web police they'll backtrace you then things will never be the same.

a YT-1300 that has an offset cockpit

Just wanted to point out that this particular point really isn't one to hang your hat on. The offset cockpit has literally never been an issue with the Falcon. I'm pretty sure you never see the rest of the ship from inside the cockpit and it's just another inconsistency between the internal and external Falcon parts. As far as the people inside the Falcon are concerned, it's just a cockpit, a short corridor, and a ladder with guns at the top and bottom.

...You do know it has a pretty important impact on your perspective when flying it right?

Like.

We're talking severe when it comes to small adjustments.

I know Hobojebus, I'm as confused as you are.

It's like everything I ever believed is... wrong.

a YT-1300 that has an offset cockpit

Just wanted to point out that this particular point really isn't one to hang your hat on. The offset cockpit has literally never been an issue with the Falcon. I'm pretty sure you never see the rest of the ship from inside the cockpit and it's just another inconsistency between the internal and external Falcon parts. As far as the people inside the Falcon are concerned, it's just a cockpit, a short corridor, and a ladder with guns at the top and bottom.

...You do know it has a pretty important impact on your perspective when flying it right?

Like.

We're talking severe when it comes to small adjustments.

Pssh, the Falcon has never taken ANY kind of structural damage from poor steering. Especially not in the new movie.

I know Hobojebus, I'm as confused as you are.

It's like everything I ever believed is... wrong.

It's okay I hear there's are camps in Mexico that can get you fixed.

I know Hobojebus, I'm as confused as you are.

It's like everything I ever believed is... wrong.

Strange. Exactly the same here. First I thought "I need no ARC!" and then I was "This ship is beautiful."

But still no Interceptor or X-Wing. Or GUNBOAT!

What we need to do is to make a date for this month, call it Gunboat day. On that day send an impassioned e-mail about how you'll never be truly satisfied with your investment in this game unless the Gunboat is created and released. Despite the Gary Oaksesque girth of this topic, we've yet to see any fighters that break the Imperial's TIE streak. Maybe messages from the players themselves?

If enough people tell them SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, only a fool would not respond to such a demand.

Or a Gunboat hater...

Surely it'd be the ARC dial? Doesn't feel like it should be quite Y-sluggish on greens.

Good point, yeah, ARC is the better choice.

I think this is a great suggestion. Upon review, I agree that the ARC is probably the best proxy for the Guboat dial. Better then a Y-wing, but not quite as good as the X-wing. Pretty spot on for that I was looking for.

Prequel ship design deserves love too!

V-19 Torrent! The spiritual predecessor to the GUNBOAT. I would love both of these excellent ships in this game.

I know Hobojebus, I'm as confused as you are.

It's like everything I ever believed is... wrong.

It's okay I hear there's are camps in Mexico that can get you fixed.

Considering how things in the UK are currently going, that might not be such a bad option