That tells us nothing.

Only that Blueprints were there.

What if the whole point of the next episode is them blowing up the **** factory that sets them back on a timeline POST Yavin ?

That'd still fit.

Nowhere is it stated that they were actually there...

Well according to new cannon defenders were at the death star, New cannon sucks long live the EU!

Really? What source?

Picture of Hera viewing a Defenders blueprints :/

That doesn't tell us that Defenders had been manufactured and stationed on the Death Star, where (if they behaved as well as their original Legends counterparts) Red and Gold squadrons wouldn't have stood a chance. And it makes no sense that Vader wouldn't use his status to activate them, if not make them his elite Black Squadron in the first place.

I thought your source would have been Catalyst or some other obscure source. The blueprint only tells us the TIE/D has designs, not that it's being completed. For all we know, it's just the x7 Prototype.

Well according to new cannon defenders were at the death star, New cannon sucks long live the EU!

I need to find a Star Wars shirt that says "Disney canon sucks! Long live Lucas EU!" Almost none of the plebs would have a clue what my shirt means

Defenders have been pre Yavin canon for years now. That tower defense game recanonized them.

I just head canoned them to be early X7 models.

Well according to new cannon defenders were at the death star, New cannon sucks long live the EU!

Really? What source?

Picture of Hera viewing a Defenders blueprints :/

That doesn't tell us that Defenders had been manufactured and stationed on the Death Star, where (if they behaved as well as their original Legends counterparts) Red and Gold squadrons wouldn't have stood a chance. And it makes no sense that Vader wouldn't use his status to activate them, if not make them his elite Black Squadron in the first place.

I thought your source would have been Catalyst or some other obscure source. The blueprint only tells us the TIE/D has designs, not that it's being completed. For all we know, it's just the x7 Prototype.

Well we also have Defenders at the DS I attack scenarios in Battlefront.

Defenders pre Yavin is just wrong...

Everything Disney canon is wrong.

#NotMyCanon

Yeah it's non sensical why would Vader have his advanced over a defender, for sure rogue and gold squadron would of been annihilated, Han wouldn't have escaped hoth and so on.

Would they even develop the interceptor?

Yeah it's non sensical why would Vader have his advanced over a defender, for sure rogue and gold squadron would have been annihilated, Han wouldn't have escaped hoth and so on.

Would they even develop the interceptor?

They probably would develop the Interceptor simply because of the cost to build Defenders.

Yeah it's non sensical why would Vader have his advanced over a defender, for sure rogue and gold squadron would of been annihilated, Han wouldn't have escaped hoth and so on.

Would they even develop the interceptor?

The X1 had some very powerful cannons in old cannon... but yes, no reason to pick her instead of the Defender.

#NotMyCanon

#Disney #MACA (Make Canon Great Again) #NeverVong

#ForgottenGunboat

HA! Love my new sig

One of the easiest lessons I learned in the X-Wing game was to never EVER get close to a Gunboat unless it was directly in front of you as it really didn't care if it turned right into you and you'd likely be on your way to a bacta tank or interrogation room if that occurred.

I also remember how both strategy guides had basic pilot tactics sections that said that the other factions fighters would frequently fail to turn away during a head-on attack; either because of Imperial fanaticism or the durability of Rebel ships.

We need a card akin to APL where if a small ship with the card comes into base contact with another small ship you roll a die and assign a card based off the result; either face down or a crit.

It'd be a great way to get mid PS ships with EPS back in the game and make low hull value arc dodgers sweat a few bullets when playing against high hull value fighters with that card.

The Defender at Yavin/Death Star is something stated by Battlefront.

Except it isn't and some of you should be ashamed for presenting and propogating such misinformation.

The Death Star DLC in Battlefront is not the Battle of Yavin. It's at who-knows-where, and there's a Mon Cal cruiser in the distance too. B-Wings, A-Wings, and everything inbetween, the battle presented in the new DLC is clearly NOT the battle of yavin.

Disney isn't destroying everything you knew and loved, you can stop saying it did. Please do research on these things before making egregiously incorrect claims.

I'll take this some place else.

Yeah, the Death Star battle in Battlefront is just a multiplayer skirmish game.

It's not as though the Rebels staging an invasion of the Death Star in order to rescue R2-D2 is canon either.

I'm guessing that Sawtooth is meant to be used with range 1 secondaries in mind in order to avoid giving your opponent an extra green die? Or is it to be used to avoid the necessity of a TL?

I'm guessing that Sawtooth is meant to be used with range 1 secondaries in mind in order to avoid giving your opponent an extra green die? Or is it to be used to avoid the necessity of a TL?

It's a little more than that. It can't bypass a target lock (because it has the text, and therefore the Attack [targetlock] header, but it does give you the Range one bonus. What it also does is allow you to use abilities that care about primary weapon attacks, like Howlrunner.

Would they even develop the interceptor?

Well, Interceptors have ALREADY been in Rebels. So the Defender is still being created after Interceptors.

Well looking at the opening crawl for Commander, it takes place between ANH and ESB. So the Defenders weren't necessarily at the Battle of Yavin itself and really are just a smidge early from their former creation time. The Wookiee puts the TIE Interceptor at 16 years after the founding of the Empire which is right around the time of the new TIE Advanced and TAP (cringe) creations. That's at least about 15 years for the TIE fighter to have been developed and made the primary fighter of the Empire and about 7 years between the development of the Advanced and Interceptor and that of the Defender.

That's an awfully long time to rely only on carrier dependent fighters though. Considering that ships like ARC had hyperdrives you'd think the Empire...

OK I'll cut to the chase I'm talking about the Gunboat.

CANONIZE IT ALREADY!

The Defender at Yavin/Death Star is something stated by Battlefront.Except it isn't and some of you should be ashamed for presenting and propogating such misinformation.

The Death Star DLC in Battlefront is not the Battle of Yavin. It's at who-knows-where, and there's a Mon Cal cruiser in the distance too. B-Wings, A-Wings, and everything inbetween, the battle presented in the new DLC is clearly NOT the battle of yavin.

Disney isn't destroying everything you knew and loved, you can stop saying it did. Please do research on these things before making egregiously incorrect claims.

Except that mission is the first mission of a dual mission attack on the Death Star scenario.

And the tower defense app that recanonized it was specifically stated to take place right after tracking the fleeing Yavin base to the dirt ball.

You should know what you're talking about first before accusing others.

The Battlefront DLC can't be the BOY. It has entirely different events from the actual battle. If we're to take any Battlefront map as an actual event, then at some point all the major heroes and villains of the original trilogy got together to kick the poodoo out of each other and somehow nobody died.

The Defender at Yavin/Death Star is something stated by Battlefront.Except it isn't and some of you should be ashamed for presenting and propogating such misinformation.

The Death Star DLC in Battlefront is not the Battle of Yavin. It's at who-knows-where, and there's a Mon Cal cruiser in the distance too. B-Wings, A-Wings, and everything inbetween, the battle presented in the new DLC is clearly NOT the battle of yavin.

Disney isn't destroying everything you knew and loved, you can stop saying it did. Please do research on these things before making egregiously incorrect claims.

Except that mission is the first mission of a dual mission attack on the Death Star scenario.

And the tower defense app that recanonized it was specifically stated to take place right after tracking the fleeing Yavin base to the dirt ball.

You should know what you're talking about first before accusing others.

Well, either way, those aren't Defenders at Yavin, those aren't Star Destroyers at Yavin, those aren't Mon Cals at Yavin. It is a reformed fleet on both sides, and they had to rescue R2.

Any'a that sound like Yavin?

Why can't we just say battlefront isn't canon and move on? Is there some rule somewhere that everything with Disney's stamp on it has to be canon?