Hi Guys

Loads of Q&A on the Mists of Releh spell in the BGG forums, specifically on when it can be used.

Q: Can you cast the Mists of Releh AFTER you fail a Combat Encounter to remove the Monster threat, to then go on and do another Encounter?

Asked FFG directly, but got no feedback yet, so thought I would stir things up here. Surprised this question on this spells wording ... " DURING the Encounter Phase ", hasn't cropped up before. The wording, to me, would suggest that you could cast it after a failed Combat Encounter, remove the threat and then look to do whatever Encounter you want to do next?

As always, keep an open mind, but don't use an axe!

Any advice appreciated, or threads that I've possibly missed,

Walts

It has always been my understanding that you can only encounter a space once a turn, the only exception to that is when defeating all of the monsters on a space allows you to then take another encounter for the space itself.

It has always been my understanding that you can only encounter a space once a turn, the only exception to that is when defeating all of the monsters on a space allows you to then take another encounter for the space itself.

Players are saying that during the Combat Encounter, you cast the spell, thus "defeating" the Monsters, which then allows you to do another Encounter based on the Combat Encounter criteria?

I've never played it this way, having always used the spell at the beginning of the Encounter Phase, but it does bring up some thought that it could be a valid process. If your a good fighter, your always going to try & kill the beasties with weapons, but has happened , you get some duff die-rolls, so decide to resort to your spell to remove the threat and continue on.

It certainly works theme wise ... Walts

Like you, I always use it at the beginning of the Encounter phase. My understanding of the mechanic is that if there are monsters there that is your encounter. When you successfully defeat every monster on the location you can then gain an additional encounter on the space, be it a location, rumor, clue, expedition, what have you. The Mists spell to me just takes the one encounter you can do in a turn and allows you to bypass the monsters in the space and skip right to the other encounters. I don't have the rules in front of me but I know it does always say that you must encounter monsters first and above all else when they are on the same space as you. Mists would, again, just give you the opportunity to get that last clue or remove that rumor or shut the gate, all without having to touch the monsters. It really helps with Akachi's ability to teleport to clues or other gates on the board if you don't care about monster density.

Of course, if I am wrong then I will gladly play it differently and get more opportunity out of it.

I'd say you have to check for this before encountering the monster. If you encounter the monster and you don't defeat it (clearly; if you defeat it, no need for Mist), then your encounter phase is over, so you cannot cast Mist (the "during" condition is not met). I'dn't say you can cast it during combat either.

That's my reading of the card, tho, even if I agree that it could have been better worded.

Hi Guys

Got a response from Nikki Valens ( Top Girl! )...

hello walter,

please excuse my lack of capitalization. my mobile device appears to not want capital letters.

when an investigator acts during the encounter phase, he resolves only one encounter with the following exceptions - first, if there is more than one monster on his space, he must encounter all of them, and second, if after resolving said combat encounters all monsters on his space have been defeated or otherwise discarded, he may choose an additional encounter if he wishes.

the clairvoyance spell had a similar stumbling block previously. neither of these spell effects grants the investigator an additional encounter.

the short and sweet answer - no. if an investigator fails to defeat a monster during the encounter phase, the mists of releh spell will no longer be of any use to him until the next round.

thanks for playing

... Not really surprised with it,

Walts

I actually forgot about clairvoyance as well, that spell had made my clue gathering 10 times easier in a few games.