Winning/Losing the game rule clarification

By MrHello, in General Discussion

I played a game 2 nights ago where I had run out of mythos cards (I had to solve an extra mystery since one was re-shuffled into the deck). The mystery had been resolved, I just had to wait for the end of the mythos phase to solve it.

If I remember correctly, if there are no mythos cards to draw, you end the mythos phase, and lose the game. Since there is an end to the mythos phase, and winning the game takes priority over losing the game according to the reference book, I interpreted the situation as a win for the team.

Would you agree, or disagree?

Thanks in advance

Julia answered this question in another thread. I shan't try to reword what she said or I would just butcher it.

You don't lose the game when you're instructed to draw a Mythos card from an empty deck. If you cannot draw from the Mythos deck, then the Mythos phase ends and investigators lose the game (ref guide, pag 9).

So, not drawing makes you go immediately to the end of the Mythos phase where you check for mysteries.

If you completed the third mystery during that round, two things happen:

a) you lose the game
b) you win the game because of the three Mysteries solved

both things happen at the same time (end of the Mythos phase) so it's a conflict. Reference guide, pag 4, under conflicts, reads:

If multiple effects would be resolved at the same time, the active player decides the order in which they are resolved.

So, you choose if a) or b). Generally speaking, you'd choose to resolve b) before a), so, yeah, you won that one

Julia answered this question in another thread. I shan't try to reword what she said or I would just butcher it.

You don't lose the game when you're instructed to draw a Mythos card from an empty deck. If you cannot draw from the Mythos deck, then the Mythos phase ends and investigators lose the game (ref guide, pag 9).

So, not drawing makes you go immediately to the end of the Mythos phase where you check for mysteries.

If you completed the third mystery during that round, two things happen:

a) you lose the game

b) you win the game because of the three Mysteries solved

both things happen at the same time (end of the Mythos phase) so it's a conflict. Reference guide, pag 4, under conflicts, reads:

If multiple effects would be resolved at the same time, the active player decides the order in which they are resolved.

So, you choose if a) or b). Generally speaking, you'd choose to resolve b) before a), so, yeah, you won that one

Julia answered this question in another thread. I shan't try to reword what she said or I would just butcher it.

You don't lose the game when you're instructed to draw a Mythos card from an empty deck. If you cannot draw from the Mythos deck, then the Mythos phase ends and investigators lose the game (ref guide, pag 9).

So, not drawing makes you go immediately to the end of the Mythos phase where you check for mysteries.

If you completed the third mystery during that round, two things happen:

a) you lose the game

b) you win the game because of the three Mysteries solved

both things happen at the same time (end of the Mythos phase) so it's a conflict. Reference guide, pag 4, under conflicts, reads:

If multiple effects would be resolved at the same time, the active player decides the order in which they are resolved.

So, you choose if a) or b). Generally speaking, you'd choose to resolve b) before a), so, yeah, you won that one

Really??? Are you sure about it? So if i solve all 3 mystery on the same turn as mythos deck is finish i still able to win?

I alway play like i lost in this case…..

Quoting Julia again where she quotes Nikki. So it is the official ruling.

Nevermind, found:

I'd also like to clear up a small misunderstanding. If the third Mystery would be solved on the final round, the Mythos Phase ends without resolving a Mythos card and both the win condition and loss condition are met at once. In such a case, the investigators win the game. If this wasn't true, as you've said, there would be no reason to play out that round.

Thanks Fenix for remembering my posts :) And yes, we got this clarified by the game designer, so, it's 100% sure

Edited by Julia

Hi, sorry for necroing

Similar question: What happens if I'm playing against Azazoth, we solve the 3 mystery cards, but during the mythos phase of that turn Azazoth awakens?

What makes Azathoth wake up? This thread covered the very specific case of "why should I play one very last round after we resolve the last Mythos of the deck"; Azathoth waking up sounds like something different: you resolve the effects of the AO's awakening immediately when he awakens, so, the game ends and players lose

What makes Azathoth wake up? This thread covered the very specific case of "why should I play one very last round after we resolve the last Mythos of the deck"; Azathoth waking up sounds like something different: you resolve the effects of the AO's awakening immediately when he awakens, so, the game ends and players lose

Ah, I see my error here. Thanks, Julia :)

Glad it helped :)