A third faction

By yoink101, in X-Wing

I'd be happy with a force that used Star Vipers and V-Wings, such as Black Sun or the Zann Consortium. I'd also recommend them to have the Rihkxyrk Fighter, since it would bring a lot of heavy firepower to a new faction.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rihkxyrk_Assault_Fighter

I'd be happy with a force that used Star Vipers and V-Wings, such as Black Sun or the Zann Consortium. I'd also recommend them to have the Rihkxyrk Fighter, since it would bring a lot of heavy firepower to a new faction.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rihkxyrk_Assault_Fighter

that fighter was one of my favorite units i used to paly in empire at war because of its look ok they arent that good or bad just decent and man i liked to throw 25 units of em at my enemy jsut for fun xD

yeah black sun is needed here !!!

Edited by SoulCrusherEx

The Y-Tie and the X-Ceptor are totally ridiculous, they don't even have a propulsion system!!

Concerning a new faction i would say if they bring a wave 5 it will have to be another faction. There are not a lot of ships left for Rebels and empire, so i would say they will have to look elsewhere for expansions!

URE WRONG WITH EMPIRE FIGHTERS !!!

tie hunter, tie sentinel, tie opressor, tie agressor , tie drone, tie interdictor, tie heavy bomber, tie scout, tie vanguard arent made and there are many more ties to come look at the wookipedia !!!

i want my tie agressor !!!

and dont forget the shadow squadron tie with terror trooper pilot with the boarding pod launchers !!!

so many fighters on empire side like predator and neutrolizer class fighters

Look at it from a game designers side. What would any of these, except the drone fighter maybe, bring to the game in terms of diversity of gameplay. Because until now every ship is pretty much different stat and pointwise from the others, so it fills a niche in its faction. Most of the ones you name are just improved TIEs with shields. And some more bombers that also have very dubious looks. I understand that with this expansion they went some way down the expanded universe road. And i like the idea. But that does not mean they have to do every single variant of a TIE with shields that existed in it.

And what would they bring for the rebels meanwhile? Older fighters that just would be pirate ships basically anyway?

Then i would honestly prefer a pirate/freelancer faction where they would have lots of potential exotic ships available and add some of the existing ones by reprinting some cards...

Or they just turn towards episodes I-III for 2 new factions. That's the other possibility. I would not mind either thing happening.

well yeah first iam a biiiig galactic empire fanboy and there are plently of other abc-wings to go either for rebels. and dont forget the rouge squadron guys that captured some of the tie variants like the tie hunter and such just sayin that we arent in any way of stopping to see more stuff to come to us and iam excited to see more

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I don't say that there are no more Tie variants. I just doubt that they would bring anything new to the Empire as a faction. And until now FFG has always tried to make the ships for every faction unique in their function for the faction. If that is not the case, i doubt they will bring them.

What kind of ABC wings do you mean? I read all the rogue squadron books, and they flew X-Wings most of the time. In the later books of Ghost squadron they flew a variety of ships, but nothing really new that we would not have in X-Wing after wave 4.

The only thing that remains would be some uglies, but i cant imagine FFG bringing out any uglies or older starfighters for the rebels. If they would bring anything like that out it would probably be for a third faction anyway. Pirates used these ships way more than the Rebel Alliance or the later New Republic.

I don't think a third faction is needed for this game. A neutral set of ships might be nice though. Bounty hunters, mercenaries, and the like worked for who ever paid them. It might be interesting for there to be a set of 3 or 4 ships that could be employed by either side.

Star Wars is about the Rebels' fight against the Empire. I don't think this game should stray from that focus.

"Scum & Villainy" always seemed like a good faction to have.

Yup. I photographed them upside down.

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Rebels still have the K-wing bomber and and and aside from uglies and a few smugglers and privateers that joined up thats about it as far as I remember.

engines are overrated, what about sails? they sure are piraty ;)

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just replace the cockpit by something star was related and you are fine :)

perhaps you could even create a secondary weapon line up where you could fire a classic broadside, just thinking out loud.

Edited by Asgo

Flat clearcoat is still drying. I'm not the best paint, but here you go.

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I would love a 3rd faction. 1v1v1 games would be a trip. With that being said, the best part of the game is every ship is unique and fills a niche. At some point you're gonna overlap and power creep over other ships. That would destroy this game.

As long as there are niches to fill, keep em coming. With that being said, not a fan of these ships like the X tie etc. They just look silly.

I would see them making Black Sun a faction. Other than that there is theYuuzhan Vong in the books. Organic ships would be an interesting shift away from the typical mechanical ships.

I would see them making Black Sun a faction. Other than that there is theYuuzhan Vong in the books. Organic ships would be an interesting shift away from the typical mechanical ships.

Please no. The Vong are among the worst things to happen to the EU. I hope, hope, hope that the Vong arc is declared non canon.

And no, not because they killed chewie. But that is a factor.

I would see them making Black Sun a faction. Other than that there is theYuuzhan Vong in the books. Organic ships would be an interesting shift away from the typical mechanical ships.

Please no. The Vong are among the worst things to happen to the EU. I hope, hope, hope that the Vong arc is declared non canon.

And no, not because they killed chewie. But that is a factor.

Seeing as wookies were enslaved and used as labor for the Death Stars... Battle of Kashyyyk may have been a better choice. Wookies would have made sense as opponents to Stormtroopers. Leave episode VII... How about a reboot.

Anakin Solo dying was the worst part of the Vong arc, imho.

I would rather not see the scavenged pirate ships... But fortunately for everyone I'm not in charge. :-D

Edited by Zehnon

Been lurking for a while, but this discussion was just too good to not participate!

Here's my take on likely third factions:

The Vong : Disney has stated that a lot of the post-Endor EU canon is going to be thrown out when Ep VII hits. With the vong being pretty far along past Endor (post new republic growing pains and new jedi academy) I would bet good imperial credits that they are getting scrapped from the canon.

Black Sun : Would be cool, but how many well known ships do they really have outside of the starviper? Sure there are tons of EU exotic ships that they could field, but would FFG really make expansions for those? They seem to have stuck to well known and loved ship designs even when dipping into the EU (all of the EU stuff so far has been from beloved video game franchises, and the head hunter has been in EU canon for a looong time)

Smugglers/Bounty Hunters : See Black Sun above

Prequel Factions (republic/trade federation): Ever since Disney bought the Star Wars franchise, they seem to have been pulling away from the prequel trilogy in preparation for the new trilogy. They canceled Clone Wars and are replacing it with Rebels, a show that has the empire as the bad guys again. FFG's SW tabletop RPG is set during rebellion era as well. Overall it looks like the content production for Star Wars as a brand is swinging back towards rebellion/empire era. It's a good move on Disney's and FFG's part since the target demographic has fond memories of the OT. Because of that, more than anything else, I kind of doubt we'll be seeing prequel factions anytime soon. The prequels are controversial even among die hard SW fans and both of the factions wouldn't really add much to the game The trade feds would basically be the empire and the republic would basically be the rebels in terms of gameplay.

I think there is enough material from the OT EU to do a couple more waves. Here is what I think we will see next:

Shadows of the Empire: Both the Virago (starviper) and the Outrider (YT-2400) are from an EU beloved video game franchise, plus the outrider is canon (it appears in the background of ep4 special edition at mos eisley)

Bounty Hunters: Bossk's ship (the hounds tooth) and IG-88's ship (IG-2000) are well known and loved by fans and were active during the OT

Rebels: The Ghost from the Tv show, plus any more new ships that show introduces

Special Packs: Aces of the Rebellion anyone? More named pilots for existing ships and custom paintjobs and titles.

Card Expansions: Damage cards, Upgrades, etc.

Official Terrain: Turbo-laser turrets, Star Destroyer shield generators, Space Stations

Campaigns: This is already starting to happen with cinematic play mode, but a book with a mission string would be awesome! I've wanted to run something like this with my group but don't have the time to write it all up.

Atmospheric Battles?: AT-AT walkers, Snow speeders, cloud cars, jabba's sail barge

The bottom line is that they have enough material to keep going with the OT era until the new movies start coming out. If the new movies introduce a faction instead of going with imperial remnant than that will likely be the third faction for this game. Either way, the new trilogy will introduce tons of new ships.

Edited by KommanderKeldoth

Also, Zehnon, I would argue that the Gungans were the worst thing to happen to the star wars universe... Or the holiday special... :D Or just the fact that the prequel trilogy ruined the mystique of Boba Fett and some of the awesomeness of Vader by showing them as plucky 10 year olds.

You know, with the new releases, a third faction might be emerging. A sort of pirate/lawless faction. The Firespray was commonly used by the pirate and lawless types, as was the headhunter. The Hawk and the yt are both fairly notorious for operating outside of legal boundaries. Match those up with a privateer own cr90, and you've got yourself a regular pirate fleet.

I think the Droid fleets would be a cool off shoot.

Edited by Cubanboy

There are some that do not like the prequels sure, but the ships during the clone wars were certainly beautiful... and I would drop several hundred dollars on those ships.

Clone wars ships are just such better designs...

Tie variants can last forever... I really hope we get the Droid and the Predator. Both look distinct and would have special roles/abilities that could add to the game.

For Rebels there are certainly a few more "old timey" ships that we could see: Vwing, Arc170, N-1, kwing...

What I would really like to see, however, is 2 waves of 1 ship for each side and 2 neutrals.

Well... I would really like to see 2 waves of clone war era... but I'd settle for a third faction or a neutral faction.

We need the ARC-170, the LAAT/i, the V-Wing, the Delta and the Eta.

The Republic Assault Shuttle (Nu class ?)

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The V-wing is an atmospheric fighter not a space fighter.

The V-wing is an atmospheric fighter not a space fighter.

There are two V-wings: the atmospheric fighter from Dark Empire and the Rogue Squadron game, and the V-wing from the Clone Wars.

The V-wing is an atmospheric fighter not a space fighter.

There are two V-wings: the atmospheric fighter from Dark Empire and the Rogue Squadron game, and the V-wing from the Clone Wars.

The V-Wing is in Revenge of the Sith

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The V-wing is an atmospheric fighter not a space fighter.

There are two V-wings: the atmospheric fighter from Dark Empire and the Rogue Squadron game, and the V-wing from the Clone Wars.

The V-Wing is in Revenge of the Sith

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Where? When?

The V-wing is an atmospheric fighter not a space fighter.

There are two V-wings: the atmospheric fighter from Dark Empire and the Rogue Squadron game, and the V-wing from the Clone Wars.

The V-Wing is in Revenge of the Sith

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Where? When?

They fly escort for the Emperor on his way to Mustafar.

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My wallet will cry if they release a 3rd faction!