Question,

I am thinking about the following list as I kick around some ideas

1 Omi shuttle- Darth Vader, Rebel Captive, Sensor Jammer, shield upgrade, st321 and ion cannon (39)

5 Acad Pilots (60)

99 total

Or

1 Omi shuttle - Darth Vader, rebel captive, fire control, anti pursuit, ion (32)

1 Turr phen - shield and push the limit (32)

3 Acad Pilots (36)

100 total

Could this work? Should I look at another way to mini swarm?

I really wouldn't use Vader on a 39 point ship. Beyond that, it looks solid. Maybe drop Vader and the Shield Upgrade and upgrade to Jendon and a Weapons Eng. on the shuttle?

I'd change the shuttle's loadout. For your first list, id take off vader, shield upgrade, sensor jammer, st321, rebel captive, and ion cannon. Replace with Heavy Laser Cannon, Advanced Sensors, Engine Upgrade, Gunner(or keep rebel captive). This lets you do lots of damage, and Engine Upgrade + Advanced Sensors will make you maneuverable. Can't complain with 5 APs either.

My only qualm with your lists was putting so many points into the shuttle that you are killing off with the Vader crew card.

try this loadout on the shuttle:

Omicron + FCS + Gunner + Engine Upgrade (32pts)

or

Omicron + Vader (24pts)

Squad#1 [100pts]

Omicron + Darth Vader (24)

Turr Phennir + Push the Limit + Shield Upgrade (32)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics (20)

Squad#2 [100pts]

Omicron + Darth Vader (24)

Turr Phennir + Push the Limit + Stealth Device (31)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Howlrunner + Stealth Device (21)

Squad#3 [100pts]

Omicron + FCS + Gunner + Engine Upgrade (32)

Turr Phennir + Push the Limit + Shield Upgrade (32)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Squad#4 [100pts]

Omicron + FCS + Gunner + Engine Upgrade (32)

Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics (20)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Academy Pilot (12)

Squad#5 [100pts]

Omicron + Darth Vader (24)

Howlrunner + PTL + Stealth Device (24)

Backstabber (16)

Alpha Squadron Pilot (18)

Alpha Squadron Pilot (18)

Remember Gunner and Vader combine well, especially since a shuttle without Engine Upgrades may only get a couple shot in the whole game. It will self destruct much faster but throw out more crits.

Thanks for this lots to think about

Brown Bomber has the right of it. I would start with this combination:

OGP + FCS + Gunner + Engine Upgrade

I've talked about this list quite extensively. It's not an expensive option, it's hyper fast (though still doesn't turn well), and the firepower is incredible against anything with 2 or more evade dice. I recommend getting used to this setup before expanding into other territory (Advanced Sensors for example), simply because this one is a good one to learn the ropes on.

Thanks friend for the advice