I know the PCs in your group don't wear armor (if your DeviantArt gallery is anything to go by, I'm not sure they even wear clothes most the time)

Ooh, back in the knife drawer!

I just found the 'multiple armours' thread amusing. I knew a guy who used to try to wear multiple suits of mail in D&D. That didn't end well.

but I really don't see these two armors becoming "the norm" in all but the most Monty Haul style of games.

Hopefully not.

It's a tough line between the sourcebooks providing some new gear to get players excited, and 'Power Creep From Hell' in which the core stuff is completely invalidated by the splatbooks.

I know the PCs in your group don't wear armor (if your DeviantArt gallery is anything to go by, I'm not sure they even wear clothes most the time)

Ooh, back in the knife drawer!

I hope my laptop likes beer, because that's what it got.

Heck, following on from that that earlier thread, people will probably be wearing ten of 'em for Soak 30.

You know, if someone abused the power armor so badly, the first despair they got in combat would leave them trapped inside their armor with dead batteries and unable to move an inch while the blaster bolts zinged all around them.

I hope my laptop likes beer, because that's what it got.

Apologies for the laptop!

Actually, Donovan's one of the good guys. He actually contributes and gives us stuff on his sites, so I cut him some slack as he doesn't just sit on the sidelines bitching like some people I could mention.

Though I think I may have referred to him as 'prickly', before, as we saw above...

So to make sure I have this correctly, the new ships in the book are:

Starfighters

• Preybird Starfighter
• A-7 Hunter Interceptor

Transports/Freighters

• Surronian Conqueror Assault Ship
• YZ-775 Medium Transport
• YV-929 Armed Light Freighter
• 4R3 Light Assault Transport

Capital Ships

• Neutron Star -class Bulk Cruiser
• Keldabe -class Battleship
• Starbolt Assault Carrier

Did I miss anything?

Updated.

Cool. Who are the manufacturers for the Starbolt Assault Carrier and the 4R3 Light Assault Transport?

The Starbolt is Corellian Engineering Corporation, while the 4R3 is made by the Telgorn Corporation.

Picked up my copy at my FLGS, they had 5 in stock.

Plus picked up some extra dice

The Starbolt is Corellian Engineering Corporation, while the 4R3 is made by the Telgorn Corporation.

Thanks!

Though I think I may have referred to him as 'prickly', before, as we saw above...

Well, the remark about your gallery was meant in both jest and good fun, nothing more.

Sorry for the mini off-topic but after this book only three more are announced no?

Rebelion Era, Jewel of Yavin and after that Force and Destiny? Did I miss anything?

Though I think I may have referred to him as 'prickly', before, as we saw above...

Well, the remark about your gallery was meant in both jest and good fun, nothing more.

I guessed that. And I've always supported your right to be 'prickly'

Sorry for the mini off-topic but after this book only three more are announced no?

Rebelion Era, Jewel of Yavin and after that Force and Destiny? Did I miss anything?

Things do seem to have gone quiet on that front, probably with the impending release of Age of Rebellion Core.

People are wondering if we will see a new AoR book AND and EoE book every month, or if it will be either one game or another.

If find it hard to believe that EoE is over, now. You'd have thought they would at least support the other career books, plus a few adventures and sourcebooks.

I'd be happy with one book a month for each system to be honest, but we shall have to see.

Yeah, I suspect the next few months after Jewel of Yavin are going to be Age of Rebellion Beginner Box and core rulebook, presumably in April and May respectively. June is also when convention season starts ramping up, with Origins in July and GenCon in August.

The lack of news on upcoming EotE products doesn't surprise me too much, as they're going to want attention to go to the new shiny that is Age of Rebellion, with Force & Destiny being a couple of months later (and likely to be announced in either June or July if it's going to be a GenCon release).

As for product release schedule after that... I'm thinking it'll generally be either EotE or AoR, with F&D being placed into rotation once that corebook has been published in 2015.

Hi all,

UK Status update.

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Simon B

Hi all,

Thank you for explaining the RAW about stacking armour.

My query is about soak 0 armours layered over armour and then being given the superior attachment.

This is actually aimed at the load bearing vest, my solutions are:-

1) Set its HP's to -1, therefore making the item immune to Tinkerer.

OR

2) Modify the superior Attachment to -1 ENC and +1 ENC Limit.

Any thoughts

Simon

I'm assuming you're referring to the Tracker Utility Vest from Enter the Unknown. There's another thread about it, and it's really just up to you to decide. But it's important to remember that pretty much everything that's officially statted right now, even heavy clothing, is meant to be a jacket or full-body suit, pretty much stuff where you can't really wear a vest unless it's a size or more larger. But if you allow them to wear the vest over anything that's not normal clothes (0 defense, 0 soak, 0 encumbrance, 0 hard points), then I don't see anything wrong with them being able to toss superior on it.

In regards to being able to wear multiple suits of armor, NicoJMont lives close enough to the FFG center and was able to talk with one of the design team.

From his conversation, the answer is that you only get to wear a single suit of armor. Obviously, if the GM feels differently, they can house-rule as such. Personally, I wouldn't see a huge issue with allowing a PC to wear heavy or armored clothing along with a Tracker Utility Vest, but it's cheaper and probably easier to just buy a utility belt instead for the extra boost to Encumbrance Threshold, particularly as there's nothing saying you can't wear multiple utility belts, and it'd be easy enough to just reflavor one of those belts as a bandolier similar to what Chewbacca wore in the movies.

So, I thought I would ask this question here instead of starting a new thread.

The Accelerated Charged Particle Array Gun from Dangerous Covenants .... What is it classified as?

FFG be a little vague on stuff like this. I assume since it's very similar in size / use to the "Hammer" slugthrower from Enter the Unknown that it would be a carbine?

What's everyone else think?

Specialized short range blaster so I would think a carbine size is about right.

Thats about what I figured. I know it's nice to have some wriggle room on descriptions, but sometimes it's too vague.

Hi all,

Thank you for explaining the RAW about stacking armour.

My query is about soak 0 armours layered over armour and then being given the superior attachment.

This is actually aimed at the load bearing vest, my solutions are:-

1) Set its HP's to -1, therefore making the item immune to Tinkerer.

OR

2) Modify the superior Attachment to -1 ENC and +1 ENC Limit.

Any thoughts

Simon

Maybe I'm not understanding your question fully, but I don't see the Load Bearing Vest as being armor at all. Given the huge variety of body shapes and sizes in the SW universe, I would assume it would not be an issue to get a Load Bearing Vest a couple of sizes larger than normal to fit on over whatever suit of armor you choose for your character to wear. Its basically a fancier utility belt that you wear over your shoulders and around your chest that gives you the option to carry smaller items and necessities (see my description below) on your person to make them more easily accessible and free up room in your back-pack, etc.

I'm assuming you're referring to the Tracker Utility Vest from Enter the Unknown.

I don't have the books in front of me right now, but the Load Bearing Vest is in the equipment section of the AoR beta book. It's basically a vest/harness not unlike what modern US infantry wear to hang ammo magazines, canteens, flashlights, first aid kits, grenades, etc. off of. I'm not familiar with the Tracker Utility vest, but I assume it has a similar purpose and set of stats.

Isn't that an old aircrew vest, though? I remember seeing a few helicopter guys use those, years ago. Most modern infantry "load bearing vests" are integrated with their body armor through the use of modular pouches to prevent the very "layering" situation being discussed here. I mean, how much longer does it take to get to a bullet (blast?) wound if you have to strip off the guy's utility vest before you can get to the armor?

Isn't that an old aircrew vest, though? I remember seeing a few helicopter guys use those, years ago. Most modern infantry "load bearing vests" are integrated with their body armor through the use of modular pouches to prevent the very "layering" situation being discussed here. I mean, how much longer does it take to get to a bullet (blast?) wound if you have to strip off the guy's utility vest before you can get to the armor?

You may be right, I just did a google image search and looked for a load bearing vest...grabbed an image that looked close to what I was issued when I was in the Marines over 15 years ago. We wore something like this over our Vietnam era flak vests. I'm sure the configurations changed based on what the unit/soldier's mission was. I'm not sure how it works in today's military, but seeing as how light-weight ballistic armor has improved over the last 2 decades (our vests weren't meant to stop much more than grenade shrapnel), I could see them improving how the system works.

Regardless, this is the image that came to mind when I read about the load bearing vest in AoR...especially since it had no armor (def or soak) stats to speak of.

You may be right, I just did a google image search and looked for a load bearing vest...grabbed an image that looked close to what I was issued when I was in the Marines over 15 years ago. We wore something like this over our Vietnam era flak vests. I'm sure the configurations changed based on what the unit/soldier's mission was. I'm not sure how it works in today's military, but seeing as how light-weight ballistic armor has improved over the last 2 decades (our vests weren't meant to stop much more than grenade shrapnel), I could see them improving how the system works.

Regardless, this is the image that came to mind when I read about the load bearing vest in AoR...especially since it had no armor (def or soak) stats to speak of.

Oh, I agree that the photo you posted is probably a good example of the "load bearing vest." The practice of integrating pouches with body armor is a relatively new one, all things considered.

While I was never issued two separate vests (one for armor, one for equipment) to wear at the same time for use in Iraq/Afghanistan, having MOLLE pouches on our equipment was still pretty new. Prior to my arrival at my unit circa 2009, a lot of people were deploying with a ballistic vest to be worn under a "load bearing" vest. The first vest had a layer of "soft" armor that was designed to stop up to a 9mm pistol round, and supplemented by steel or ceramic plates designed to stop up to a 7.62x39 (AK-47) rifle round. The second vest may have used the ALICE system, but looked nearly identical the to one pictured above.

The problem was that it took longer to don/doff and was marginally more cumbersome than with an integrated vest. When performing a CASEVAC operation where the seconds between notification and launch literally mattered, using two vests was a disadvantage. I would probably argue as such if a player tried to do this in a game.

When we were flying stateside, or when we weren't all that concerned about getting shot at, a lot of us would wear our gear on Rhodesian vests that were nearly identical to the one pictured below (ours were in MultiCam):

Most body armor has the straps built in for variety of attachments which takes the place of a load bearing vest. But those are really only used in combat situations and when deployed for war. In more peacetime activity, to include base security, load bearing vests are still used.