Looking through the Star Wars Rebels previews, I noticed that the Ghost looks like a Corellian vessel similar to the YT series but doesn't match anything I can pin down from seeing the bottom and front. Do we have a new ship on our hands?
Edited by SeiitoWhat class vessel is the Ghost?
I've even made an attempt at a stock version in Cartol's Emporium .
That... looks pretty cool. I like it.
One thing with the ghost, it has a fighter attached to it near the engines. Not sure how this can come into play let alone the stats for it.
Edited by DrathenThe Phantom, isn't that what its called?
I'd make it a small fighter, I guess it should be silhouette 3, the retrofitted hangar module can't be used as the VCX-100 is a light freighter, and therefore should be silhouette4, but then if the Phantom is fitted on the outside of the hull, its a different sort of modification I'd say. Most freighters have docking clamps on the hull to attach vehicles (its there somewhere in the vehicle chapter).
In this case - unless the Ghost has a hangar bay - I'd say that its some modified docking clamps with a specially fitted airlock to get in and out of the fighter. We will see more when the series premieres I assume, but at the moment I'd say it's a 1 HP attachment thingy - or just reduce cargo capacity - and slap on an upgraded hard to daunting mechanics check, and set the cost at around 10,000 credits or there abouts. That's my take on it, with what little of info we have.
This is the closest thing I've seen to actually showing the Phantom attached to the Ghost...
Anyone seen anything more accurate? I would really love to see a deck plan for this ship....has anyone drawn anything up? Has anyone stated this ship up for EotE?
I'm really kind of tempted to have this be Trex's ship in the EotE beginner game, just to give that extra cool factor to the players when they actually discover what it is and where it came from later...
Edited by Brother BartAs I linked to above, there's an attempt at a stock version in Cartol's Emporium (see my signature for link).
Anyone seen anything more accurate? I would really love to see a deck plan for this ship....has anyone drawn anything up? Has anyone stated this ship up for EotE?
Official schematics below. I would assume any attempt at deckplans would later have to be modified once we see a few episodes with glimpses of the interior.
That's an ugly ship.
I like this image of it, not really pretty, but few light freighters are pretty.
Sorry for the image dump.
With the schematics above plus sketches and art online, it should be easy to come up with some basic deckplans that wouldn't be too far off from what we will eventually glimpse in the series. There were a few questions I couldn't answer:
Is that door up front (image #1 below) for an entrance ramp or is it a cargo door suggesting a two-deck layout? Image #2 suggests it is a short ramp that goes into a lower level below the cockpit/crew quarters.
Also, I can't figure out what kind of access goes from the main cockpit to the front gunner. Images #3 and #4 suggest a door behind the gunner. But, #4 doesn't even show the large door below the cockpits so it could be a very early sketch.
The schematic suggests no escape pod!
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My personal speculations based on the official schematics and the pictures above. You really need to glance at the images and schematics above to understand my explanations, sorry so confusing.
The upper deckplans would be cross shaped. The front bar of the cross is capped by the front cockpit/bridge. Behind the bridge is a central hall with crew quarters along both sides (4 rooms?) and a galley beyond them or possibly in the hall itself. Between the crew area and main cockpit are doors leading to both port and starboard. These doors lead to two ramps (one each side, see curvature of ship in image #2 above) that lead down to the cargo bay.
Following the front hall back towards the middle of the ship you come to a crossroads. Above the crossroads is the top turret with a ladder access. Left and right has hallways to the docking rings. One of the side halls would include a storage locker the other access to the lower cargo hold? Past the side docking ring hallways would be a hallway arriving at the rear engineering section. The hallway itself could have some storage lockers.
Below ship is the cargo bay. When you enter the front door (below the cockpits) there is a very short ramp, then it levels out as it arrives at the center of the ship. Here you will find secondary cargo holds which are in the space below the docking ring halls (can these halls drop to have ramps into the secondary cargo holds as suggested by the slope on the outside?). This central space also has the entrances to the ramps that double back to the forward hallway (see above) that brings you to the cockpit/quarters. At the back of the ship in the lower level (beyond the side secondary cargo holds) is the main cargo bay as suggested by the schematics (I'm assuming only one side was marked with an 8 for simplicity, but the main bay goes from port to starboard).
I like this explanation so far except for I don't like the waste of two ramps leading from the lower level to the top.
Edit: Just a start, please make other suggestions if you think there is a problem. I couldn't find any inside pics of the ship from Rebels except for the cockpit itself. It would be nice to have a little more info so less is tossed (if someone draws a deckplan) once the show starts.
Edited by SturnSorry one more post!
These two pictures help a bit:
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This goes along with my idea of the front door having a short ramp that quickly levels off as it enters the lower level cargo area. I think it must be the Ghost if you look closely at the green markings of the bulkhead and compare to the green on #6 below.
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Looking at other pictures, this one shows that the door behind the main cockpit is open showing the front hallway. You can see two openings on one side (other side blocked view) which supports my thoughts of 2 cabins to each side of the front hallway. But, I don't see anything that could be a galley or entrances to slopping ramps down to the lower level. I suppose a galley could be just behind that back hatch but I don't think it would leave much room before the "crossroads". I'm guessing the hallways crossroads is just behind that second hatch. Galley amongst the center crossroads? A 4-way nexus with the corners cropped off for room for a galley and a center ladder going up to the top turret?
Edited by SturnIt is rather hard to stat out something that we haven't seen yet. The phantom could be, for all we know, a standard feature on this craft.
As to the ship being ugly, well, different strokes. I like it. Not as much as the imperial refit gozanti which is inspiring a campaign starting from the imperial standpoint, but still iy is a sexy ship.
Anyone seen anything more accurate? I would really love to see a deck plan for this ship....has anyone drawn anything up? Has anyone stated this ship up for EotE?
I'm really kind of tempted to have this be Trex's ship in the EotE beginner game, just to give that extra cool factor to the players when they actually discover what it is and where it came from later...
I actually just put up a deckplan I've been working on for this ship. You can see it statted here (along with more data):
http://thompsonpeters.com/eote/deckplans_transports/
Obviously, there are only a few sources to comb through for this, but most of the above posts have posted all the same ones I used for the above. This is designed with the basic idea that the Rebels team is going to make this similar in structure to the Falcon (so only one deck) - they haven't exactly been subtle with the "guys, guys, this is old Star Wars !".
Edited by MaveritchellThis is designed with the basic idea that the Rebels team is going to make this similar in structure to the Falcon (so only one deck)
The Falcon is 8.27 meters in height, "including lower cannon and upper sensor array". The official schematic of the Ghost above has a height of 14.5 meters, 75% taller. Image#1 above, to me, suggests 2 decks. Look at the upper cockpit compared to the lower door. Then look at Image#2's side view.
This is designed with the basic idea that the Rebels team is going to make this similar in structure to the Falcon (so only one deck)
The Falcon is 8.27 meters in height, "including lower cannon and upper sensor array". The official schematic of the Ghost above has a height of 14.5 meters, 75% taller. Image#1 above, to me, suggests 2 decks. Look at the upper cockpit compared to the lower door. Then look at Image#2's side view.
Could be, but it's hardly worth debating right now. Maybe I'll do a two-deck version of the ship anyway - Having one deck always feels really cramped to me.
Call me what you will...
I REALLY like the look of the Ghost. I just get a very B-17, B-25 feel from the craft. I love that era of aviation.
Time will tell, but I get a 2 deck/story feel for the ship when I look at it.
Edited by Dex VulenI hope that the producers of Rebels ensured the writers actually DO have a map to go by and thus they just don't willy nilly draw up scenes that in the long run don't make any kind of sense for us at all.
I have a two deck sketch but it's pencil on graph paper and my notes would probably need an interpreter even if I scanned it.
I think they were going for the b-17 type of feel for that ship.
What about escape pods? Deck plans for the Corellian ships like the Falcon have freely exchanged the side rings for sometimes being "docking rings" and sometimes being "escape pods". I personally like them being both (an airlock with docking ring, but the entire section can detach in an emergency and become an escape pod).
The schematics show a port and starboard docking ring with no mention of escape pods. What may have happened is one of those was going to be an escape pod the other a docking ring, then the fighter was attached to one side. Now the writers have a problem showing scenes of the craft docking with stations or spacecraft that don't have a hangar. With the fighter on one docking ring the other side must have a docking ring (not escape pod) to attach. So, no escape pods. If the docking rings don't double as escape pods, the ship isn't showing it has any.
This may eventually lead to escape pods being pushed into some randomn place when a writer needs them to be present. The schematic above shows docking rings with a shape that one could easily interpret as escape pods. A fix would be to give that section double duty. Or we are left with shoving some small pods in someplace like later Falcon floor plans did that didn't want the docking rings to be escape pods.
It's early morning after 2 cups, sorry for rambling again.
Stumbled on something accidentally regarding the Phantom starfighter that is to be paired up with the Ghost. First, here is a picture of the Phantom on the front of a forthcoming Lego box:
Now this below has some striking similarities:
I don't think that old "accessory" for the Falcon was ever released, but I could be wrong. It looks like the Phantom was based on this old Hasbro toy prototype for the Falcon?
Edited by SturnI think they were going for the b-17 type of feel for that ship.
Then they hit the mark with this fan at least.
In the video I linked above, the Lego version of the Ghost shows an escape pod coming out (at least the starboard docking ring does double duty). Also, wookipedia mentioned that the ship designer definitely took inspiration from the B-17 canopy/ball turret when designing the Ghost.