Given the timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rebel Alliance as we saw it in the films didn't quite exist yet, and that any "Rebels" are simply independent groups doing their part to strike out against the Empire.

It's been said in interviews that the show is about the formation of the Alliance (as in, it won't even technically exist as a unified force in the first couple of seasons), so I think that's definitely set in stone - and why our heroes are a ragtag bunch instead of rank-and-file soldiers.

But speaking of rank-and-file, I'd love to see Kota's militia get fleshed out in there!

Given the timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rebel Alliance as we saw it in the films didn't quite exist yet, and that any "Rebels" are simply independent groups doing their part to strike out against the Empire.

It's been said in interviews that the show is about the formation of the Alliance (as in, it won't even technically exist as a unified force in the first couple of seasons), so I think that's definitely set in stone - and why our heroes are a ragtag bunch instead of rank-and-file soldiers.

But speaking of rank-and-file, I'd love to see Kota's militia get fleshed out in there!

Sadly, with Force Unleashed having been chucked almost unilaterally into the "not canon" bin, I doubt we'll see much of anything to do with Kota's Militia.

Has the final count of what is and is not canon been released yet, or are we just speculating on where Force Unleashed is going to fall?

The 'canonical list' hasn't been finalized, other than of course Rebels being part of the new canon, but a 'new' take on the formation of the Alliance would presumably override the depiction from The Force Unleashed, which itself overrode the depiction from the WEG books.

What we see on screen (the only true canon I use) we don't see rag tag cells, we see what looks like a unified force.

Rebels seems to be making that small rag tag group of dissidents that later become or inspire the Rebel Alliance.

For me this is what would inspire a table top group to begin their stories, culminating in a unified, organized and well trained cell that is integrated into the Rebel Alliance. I can see this show being good inspiration for stories set in the early days of the Empire. Really looking forward to it.

Has the final count of what is and is not canon been released yet, or are we just speculating on where Force Unleashed is going to fall?

Force Unleashed's fate was confirmed by Pablo Hidalgo back in December.

Where?

Where?

Has the final count of what is and is not canon been released yet, or are we just speculating on where Force Unleashed is going to fall?

Force Unleashed's fate was confirmed by Pablo Hidalgo back in December.

I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day...

Given the timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rebel Alliance as we saw it in the films didn't quite exist yet, and that any "Rebels" are simply independent groups doing their part to strike out against the Empire.

It's been said in interviews that the show is about the formation of the Alliance (as in, it won't even technically exist as a unified force in the first couple of seasons), so I think that's definitely set in stone - and why our heroes are a ragtag bunch instead of rank-and-file soldiers.

But speaking of rank-and-file, I'd love to see Kota's militia get fleshed out in there!

Sadly, with Force Unleashed having been chucked almost unilaterally into the "not canon" bin, I doubt we'll see much of anything to do with Kota's Militia.

I cant say that I'm sad - that story was terrible! "Hey, here's my super top secret planet busting weapon! Lets take all my worst enemies on a personal tour!", the whole idea of this young overpowered punk ripping Star Destroyers from the sky and beating both Vader AND Palpatine, and the whole notion that if someone somehow manage to capture Vader they wouldn't instantly execute him on the spot. Stupid silly.

Throwing around Star Destroyers is pretty cool in a video game. It sucks as part of the mainstream universe.

Now I'm laughing at GameInformer's anecdote about George Lucas telling the Force Unleashed devs to call Starkiller "Darth Insanius" when they asked him to allow a Sith Lord title...

Yeah other than Kota and the Alliance using R-41s I hope the entire TFU plot gets scrapped.

You can carry over the concepts even while wholesale scrapping TFU's plot -- for example, Kota himself is a tweaked take on "The Mentor" as far as Starkiller's journey, but there's nothing exclusive about "a Jedi who relied on non-clone troops and thereby leads an armed resistance during the Galactic Civil War"... and the Alliance using R-41s? Hell if I can think of a reason why they wouldn't before the X-wings were available.

Honestly for some missions I would keep using them even after the X-wing came out. Like escorts for Y-Wing missions to capture convoys. They are better dogfighters then Y-Wings and the Ion cannons mean they can join in the disabling without risking destroying the craft.

I, for one, love the Jedi and believe without them you don't have Star Wars. Don't get me wrong, the other careers are very important but without the Jedi it's just another space Sci-fi show. Any other role in the SW Universe could/does exist in other Sci-fi shows except the Jedi/Sith. They MAKE it Star Wars.

I have nothing against the Jedi or the Sith. I just feel that the trend towards every Star Wars story in the EU, and the cartoons focusing on them is going too far. The Mortis Arc did nothing but provide an IMO utterly unnecessary link between The Clone Wars series and events occurring more then 60 years later in the EU. And once the Jedi split from the GA Legacy Of The Force just became another conflict between the Jedi and the Sith with the Confederation GA conflict for the most part forgotten except for where it influenced the Jedi/Sith Clash. And don't get me started on the insanity of having the villain of LOTF become a poor Palpatine ripoff who somehow accomplished in less than a year something that took Palpatine decades to pull off than managed to lose it all by year's end.

Honestly for some missions I would keep using them even after the X-wing came out. Like escorts for Y-Wing missions to capture convoys. They are better dogfighters then Y-Wings and the Ion cannons mean they can join in the disabling without risking destroying the craft.

The 2-seat Y-wing is, due to the artifacts of the game system, probably the best interceptor in either Edge or Age. Two crew makes them VERY dangerous.

It's now official: Zeb is a Lasat.

And Sabine has a different surname from Satine Kryze, namely Wren.

Honestly for some missions I would keep using them even after the X-wing came out. Like escorts for Y-Wing missions to capture convoys. They are better dogfighters then Y-Wings and the Ion cannons mean they can join in the disabling without risking destroying the craft.

The 2-seat Y-wing is, due to the artifacts of the game system, probably the best interceptor in either Edge or Age. Two crew makes them VERY dangerous.

Yeah but that's not how its usually used in the setting's story so I prefer to have something else in the anti-fighter role when I can.

Therein lies a problem -- lore went one way, the game mechanics went another way. And seemingly for compatibility's sake, I'm not aware of any changes to the core starship mechanics in AoR that change that dynamic.

Therein lies a problem -- lore went one way, the game mechanics went another way. And seemingly for compatibility's sake, I'm not aware of any changes to the core starship mechanics in AoR that change that dynamic.

If there are, they aren't available in the beta updates.

Hence my remark -- if there are such changes, it doesn't look like we'll get any sign of them until the core book release.

Hooray for FU being retconned. (I never thought those initials were a coincidence, either...) It neatly encapsulates everything I hate about the last 20 tears of SW.

That said, the new show looks pretty awful too (but in another post on the EoE boards, I point out how I'm perfectly okay with that!)

The characters seem a bit like 'EU Bingo' to me:

female twi'lek - check

Chewbacca expy - check -

fanservice Mandolorian - check

Liam Neeson expy who gets killed only to pass the torch on to the designated Mary Sue - check

Order 66 survivors * - check

Obnoxious brat who ends up being the Special Snowflake 'saviour of the universe' - check

That's pretty much a full house there. What are we missing?

plucky droid (that wants to be human)

Lolita love interest for the 'Jedi Prince' brat

cute pet

a small, cutesy alien (probably an ewok or one of those rabbity things) that's actually badass

The gang's all here!

* (my personal pet peeve. I retconned Order 66 because I detested 'Revenge of the Sith', but even if I'd somehow liked it after Kevin Smith did, I'd have still retconned it. Honestly, in every EU story you can't throw a lightsaber without hitting half-a-dozen Order 66 survivors hiding in the bushes. If they somehow got together,. they'd easily outnumber the stormtroopers...)

I, for one, love the Jedi and believe without them you don't have Star Wars. Don't get me wrong, the other careers are very important but without the Jedi it's just another space Sci-fi show. Any other role in the SW Universe could/does exist in other Sci-fi shows except the Jedi/Sith. They MAKE it Star Wars.

You see, I think it's The Force that makes Star Wars special.

The Jedi, especially as the Asgardian-God anime superheroes they have become, are really overdone.

EoE has been a breath of fresh air in that regard. Even mundanes can be important.

@Maelora: We do have a plucky droid, Chopper. And he will be as stubborn and plot relevant as R2 D2.

Why is there never a Jawa with an Ionization Blaster when you need one?