I certainly understand that adversaries don't follow the same rules as PCs do, but am I the only one that finds it odd that Grinder's Vibroknife on page 131 of Suns of Fortune has the sunder quality? Vicious 3 sounds kind of high, but I don't mind that. It's the sunder quality that has me scratching my head.

I could see the sunder quality being use to cutting fuel lines on rival speeders, but that sounds more narrative and doesn't merit the quality.

I don't know. Do you guys think this is a typo? or does this ugly bald guy have a pocket-knife lightsaber?

Could be an as-yet-unreleased mod.

I certainly understand that adversaries don't follow the same rules as PCs do, but am I the only one that finds it odd that Grinder's Vibroknife on page 131 of Suns of Fortune has the sunder quality? Vicious 3 sounds kind of high, but I don't mind that. It's the sunder quality that has me scratching my head.

I could see the sunder quality being use to cutting fuel lines on rival speeders, but that sounds more narrative and doesn't merit the quality.

I don't know. Do you guys think this is a typo? or does this ugly bald guy have a pocket-knife lightsaber?

How about the 1 handed light blaster carbine on p.29? Now that's talking my kinda dual wielding language....

You can use a normal blaster carbine in one hand, so it isnt all that remarkable.

As for the vibroknife, it is called a typo. Look at the stats: Are there any other weapons on the melee weapon chart which have those exact same stats?

You can use standard ones at short range one handed, not medium as one in Suns would indicate, or in other words at several dozen meters rather than a few, and I would say that is a difference of significance in a gunfight.

Keep in mind that with NPCs that just because a weapon has a certain quality, it isn't always about that weapon. Sometimes it is just a simpler way of attributing a certain action to that NPC rather than detailing a talent or special ability. Much like the Jedi has defensive or deflective on their lightsaber.

Vicious 3 sounds kind of high, but I don't mind that. It's the sunder quality that has me scratching my head.

Could be an as-yet-unreleased mod.

Attachment (Vibroknife only): Vibroaxe-blade [2 hardpoints? ]

Vicious 3 sounds kind of high, but I don't mind that. It's the sunder quality that has me scratching my head.

Could be an as-yet-unreleased mod.

Attachment (Vibroknife only): Vibroaxe-blade [2 hardpoints? ]

Hehe wouldn't that make it Dam +3, Pierce 4, Sunder and Vicious 4 or the attachment is a hatchet and gives a bonus +2 dam, Sunder and +2 Vicious

Yeah its a type-o it's a Vibroknife with Vibroaxe stats!

Found another type-o on page 120, Kanz's Vibrokife has a crit of 3 not 2

maybe they added the guys ranks of lethal blows to it?

Kaosoe pretty much hit the nail on the head in his initial post.

NPC's don't follow the same rules that PCs do when it comes to creating their stats. In this respect, the GM is all but encouraged to cheat like a fiend when it comes to figuring out what the NPC is capable of doing, so long as that NPC's abilities fit within the context of the encounter.

So it's not a typo, but an intentional cheat on the author's part to give an NPC a special something they can do in combat.

And if you want to allow a PC to pick up a fallen foe's weapon, that's perfectly fine.

But if you're concerned about it, there are all kinds of ways to avoid it--it fell down a chasm when he died, it broke fighting you... you could even let the PC have it, but it breaks the first (or the second, or third...) time they try to use it, because it had been through so much.

Even if a character does pick up the vibroknife, who is to say it acts as anything more than a vibroknife? Does it really matter if it is a typo? As it is the opponent is more interesting with it. Why is the assumption that it is a typo and not what the author wanted when npcs are designed differently from pcs?

Even if a character does pick up the vibroknife, who is to say it acts as anything more than a vibroknife? Does it really matter if it is a typo? As it is the opponent is more interesting with it. Why is the assumption that it is a typo and not what the author wanted when npcs are designed differently from pcs?

Yeah just like if a player was to pick up a lightsaber from a "Forsaken Jedi" (As written in adversaries section of the CRB), doesn't mean he will get the Defensive and Deflection properties from said lightsaber.

Yeah just like if a player was to pick up a lightsaber from a "Forsaken Jedi" (As written in adversaries section of the CRB), doesn't mean he will get the Defensive and Deflection properties from said lightsaber.

I like this idea (kinda like Personal Focus in Champions) - it's a normal vibroknife, the guy's just frickin Riddick.

Even if a character does pick up the vibroknife, who is to say it acts as anything more than a vibroknife? Does it really matter if it is a typo? As it is the opponent is more interesting with it. Why is the assumption that it is a typo and not what the author wanted when npcs are designed differently from pcs?

The dude is a rival who dosent even rate the adversary talent, dosent even rate talents at all, and yet his vibroknife has the exact same stats as a vibroaxe?

The nemesis boss dosent get anything unusual yet the rival does?

If it quacks like a duck.

I expect there's more than one vibroknife manufacturer in the entire galaxy....

Again, why does it matter? Yeah it could be a typo but so what? Does it not make him more interesting? If you don't like it, drop it, as with everything else. This is fairly minor on the lists of things to correct, if it even needs it.

The exotic weapon attachment would be nice because it'd be a unique bit of loot.

The "he's the best man in the galaxy with a vibroknife" is just **** cool (unfortunately the guy being a nobody makes this unlikely).

Which leaves us with a typo (sadly the most likely). They meant vibroaxe but printed vibroknife.

Which is correct matters a little (but only a little) because each of these have different repercussions - things that should be thought about before they enter play.