I don't know how this thread has lasted this long. There's nothing wrong with the YT, the end.

It's kind of us analyzing why the original poster thought the thread needed to exist.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the thread existing at all. It's good to question and discuss things we believe to be true. The original poster and his friends have played a number of games that made them question why the YT-1300 is so well regarded. There is nothing at all wrong with having a nice discussion about the reasons the poster thinks that. Maybe the answers will give him a new appreciation for the ship and cause him to rethink the way that he has been playing with it. Either he will change his mind or keep believing in his old ideas. Maybe the one way he will gain a new appreciation for part of his fleet that has been underused.

I've personally loved these sorts of posts when they have defended ships like the Shuttle and the HWK-290. I don't use them much but I'd like to have more reason to try them out and see if they can do more than I have been able to get out of them so far.

Thank you Azul.

All I was trying to do was see what others thought with this. Me and My friends haven't had much luck running the YT in the past. Normally they only last about 2 rounds of firing. Where I do love everything about the YT and want to run it more. I found myself not wanting to use it in most games. Wanted to see what others thought and this post did encourage me to try it again. Its been a few months since i've used it and i've gotten a lot better at the game since then. Haven't tried using it since wave 3 came out because i've been mostly running some XXBB.

Where yes the 360 is amazing and chewy not taking hits is great. I just found the 1 evade hurt the ship. Mostly against the power of the HLC. But I do want to go back out there and try it some more.

I am a bit embarrassed about typing the TY and not YT. Not sure how that happened as im saying YT in my head. Just tryped it backwards and didn't notice.

i was disappointed the smuggler had reduced attack. a tank with no guns? no other big base ship has a reduced stat-line (other than upgrade icons). Why did they nueter it to 2 attack dice?

Interesting. I'm always disappointed that the upgraded stats weren't attached to the MF title card.

The Millennium Falcon is a souped-up, customized platform, superior to the stock YT. (More than just adding an evade, in my opinion.) But the way they have it set up, Lando and/or Chewy could ALSO be flying (essentially) the same ship simultaneously. (As points allow, of course.)

That just... bugs me.

yes but technically all those pilots have flown the Falcon at some point. Lando had it and lost it to Han in a card game, then flew it again at the Battle of Endor. And of course Chewbacca and Han have flown it, so… yeah.

I hear a lot of talk about points and whatnot in here, but has anyone asked how he's flying them? If you try to fly them straight up the gut like a fighter, of course you're going to get killed. It's very easy to put one or two guys in the way, effectively stopping it from going anywhere. Then even if there's a massive pileup of TIEs or something, maybe the first guy in the swarm is base/base, but then everyone else collides with the other TIEs and still gets to fire. And 3-6 TIEs firing at rage 1 with no modification to their dice (likely the turn after most of them have already fired on the YT), and firing on 1 evade dice are obviously going to destroy the thing (this flaming end has been the kill strategy i've successfully employed 3 out of 4 times i'm killed my friends YT, the 4th being bomb/rear firing arc of my Firespray).

I would suggest you try a different method of flying if you keep getting smeared.

If you ever find a ship that you want to "fix" I have some advice.

Don't Fix it, play it.

I think if you would have tried the YT-1300 a few times I think you would have known what everyone was saying about it. Sure it is a lot of points and you usually want to upgrade it, but if you think about it upgrading a YT-1300 means that you are spending a small % of your points on upgrades then if you want to upgrade other fighters.

The fact that it costs a lot of points means that in might not match with your play style.

If the YT-1300 has a disadvantage it is that HSF lists were soooo gooood for so long that most experienced players actually consider their possibility and how to counter them when they plan their battles. You had a similar problem with Wedge, both ships came down to the fact that they were so obviously good that people will be more likely to be ready for them.

The problem with the YT is that it has perpetuated swarms. The YT is probably the primary reason the imperial aces pack even exists. Being prepared for Han Shoots First builds has basically negated one of the empires strengths, maneuverability. The guy I play against always flies some version of it, which means I can't take my interceptors, and he's pretty good at killing my bombers before they get ordinance off.

I'm stuck with the empires other strength, quantity. I just overwhelm him with swarms or use our big hitters, BH+HLC or buzz saw bovines. My issue is it makes the game more dull than it should be.

I would suggest you try a different method of flying if you keep getting smeared.

Just some additional notes on this: feel free to view the YT-1300 as a sniper. It's tempting to use it as a tank, but keepting it at a distance gives it that extra evade die that you want and with Han/Gunner/Luke you'll be able to keep doing serious damage. You'll still be able to damage or one shot most ties, despite the distance. Use your escorts to run interference and keep the dogfight away from your freighter.

The problem with the YT is that it has perpetuated swarms. The YT is probably the primary reason the imperial aces pack even exists. Being prepared for Han Shoots First builds has basically negated one of the empires strengths, maneuverability.

This is a serious problem that needs to be addressed, but turrets are fun and thematic so I don't know what the best solution would be.

i was disappointed the smuggler had reduced attack. a tank with no guns? no other big base ship has a reduced stat-line (other than upgrade icons). Why did they nueter it to 2 attack dice?

Interesting. I'm always disappointed that the upgraded stats weren't attached to the MF title card.

The Millennium Falcon is a souped-up, customized platform, superior to the stock YT. (More than just adding an evade, in my opinion.) But the way they have it set up, Lando and/or Chewy could ALSO be flying (essentially) the same ship simultaneously. (As points allow, of course.)

That just... bugs me.

yes but technically all those pilots have flown the Falcon at some point. Lando had it and lost it to Han in a card game, then flew it again at the Battle of Endor. And of course Chewbacca and Han have flown it, so… yeah.

Right, but they've never ALL flown the Falcon AT THE SAME TIME.

The way the cards are set up, Han, Chewie, and Lando are all flying a souped-up YT. The MF title card gives one a slight advantage, but otherwise they're effectively identical. Thus, they're all "pretty much" the Falcon.

So if points allow, you could essentially have three Millennium Falcon's on the table at the same time.

Whereas, if the improved stats were on the MF Title card, then they could all fly YTs, they could even have their own unique upgrades, but only one would be the Falcon. (This would also be thematically interesting as you could play as though it were early in their career, before the Falcon had all the bells and whistles we know and love.)

I don't mean to make this into a huge deal, it's just something that's bugged me since it came out.

I agree here guys.. i think the Falcon should be unique as well.. if you use any version of it... Han, Chewie or Lando then no other version can be used.. OR .. sure have a dozen if you want.. the Falcon upgrade card could have been done to add in the other stuff.. but that might have gotten confusing..

I also feel the large ships should be allowed 2 slots for upgrades.. though that might be over powered in the long run..

Souped up YT-1300s aren't that rare though. There are an awful lot of YT-1300s out there and an awful lot of them were modified as it was popular among smugglers..

Saying that I really want a Tramp Freighters pack with 4 different pilots (With a mix of base stats) and 4 more unique titles, so you could really modify it. It is meant to be that modifiable, and there are plenty of named pilots that flew them.

and @That One Guy why would you think im a troll?

I don't know why he said that, but personally you came across as one because you claim the YT-1300 needs fixing and the original post mentioned you hadn't even run it that often because you believe the points don't justify the ship. To qualitatively judge a ship without having run it consistently several times is not fair to the ship, which makes you sound (if you'll forgive my observation) a bit immature, which has the effect of making you come across as someone who is just trying to stir up controversy, a.k.a. a troll.

I'm not saying that you are one, mind you. It's just how you came across to me personally (and I'm guessing That One Guy has similar reasons for saying the same thing).