A tie-fighter pilot that passes damage to other friendly ships would be cool. Sort of a reverse Draw Their Fire where u can choose a ship at range one and give that ship damage (could be limited to crits or normal damage).

How about if a single crit would be reflected back on the attacker, then get a stress token. Of course you must be stress-free in doing so.

i like what u r thinking but... this ability is considerably more powerful than Darth Vader (crew), being able to flip two cards and choose one to take as the crit might work - a reverse Maarek ability

Tanbris wasn't a pilot at Yavin but he was a pilot previously.

Possible TIE pilots worth mentioning:

Black Eight Squadron - Darth Vader's 'personal shennanigans' unit from Force Unleashed. Presumably the force which ultimately became Black Squadron, so whether you want them to be a seperate entity is a fair question. Interestingly, Black Eight operated bombers, too, so PS6, EPT bombers would be cool. Especially if you made a 'Black Eight Squadron' pilot for both fighter and bomber - since you could have a title card which would strap to both (Ruthlessness, or some such).

Black Eight pilots known:

• Juno Eclipse
• Redline
• Nas Ghent
• Chaser
• Youngster

Additional 'Proper' Black Squadron Pilots

• Quorl (was at Yavin, was shot down but survived and showed up in the jungles menacing people and trying to get his fighter repaired)
• Wampa (this is the reconstituted black squadron, based on the executor at Endor. He is black eleven - the name is of course the galaxy far, far away's version of 'Iceman' - so something to do with ignoring or getting rid of stress tokens would seem appropriate).

Cool, there we have the missing Back Eight pilots.

I hope we will get them in our decks some day

So all Blacks have flown Bombers as well? ... Backstabber in an Bomber anybody?

The story about Quorl is a bit strange ... even more that we have the black 8 'full already'.

He was shot down and survived on Yavin?? We all know that if you are shot down in an eyeball, it will explode to dust.

And wasn't Yavin a gas giant anyway?

Cool, there we have the missing Back Eight pilots.

I hope we will get them in our decks some day

So all Blacks have flown Bombers as well? ... Backstabber in an Bomber anybody?

The story about Quorl is a bit strange ... even more that we have the black 8 'full already'.

He was shot down and survived on Yavin?? We all know that if you are shot down in an eyeball, it will explode to dust.

And wasn't Yavin a gas giant anyway?

Tycho has been shot down while in an Eyeball too and survived (by his own X-Wing none-the-less)...

Cool, there we have the missing Back Eight pilots.

I hope we will get them in our decks some day

So all Blacks have flown Bombers as well? ... Backstabber in an Bomber anybody?

The story about Quorl is a bit strange ... even more that we have the black 8 'full already'.

He was shot down and survived on Yavin?? We all know that if you are shot down in an eyeball, it will explode to dust.

And wasn't Yavin a gas giant anyway?

Black Eight squadron is not called that because it's eight strong. It's the 8th/61st - in the same way that Saber Squadron is the 2nd/181st (Fel commands Saber Squadron, not the full 181st). TIE squadrons are 12 strong as standard (given Vader's formation, apparently flying in flights of 3 for Black Squadron).

The bomber-related comments come from the Force Unleashed books, where Juno reflects on stuff the Black Eight did for Vader, which included precision strikes to bring down a world's planetary shield by bombing a reactor, and dropping the power grid. And killing quite a lot of people with leaked radiation (you can guess how much Vader cared about that). There's no specific indication that the 61st as stationed on the Death Star also had bombers but I guess there's no reason not to. However, I'd rather have different pilots than have the same pilot in multiple fighters (just personal preference) - although I imagine it's something we'll get used to seeing with Rebel Aces, since quite a lot of characters should be moved into X-wings to allow you to do 'Proper' Rogue Squadron.

Nor are all the Black Squadron pilots contemporaries. Redline was Black Eight Leader after Juno left, and I think Ghent was his replacement after he was killed (Black Squadron pilots having a similar life expectancy to anyone else in Vader's immediate vicinity). Certainly there's no reason to believe any of the five were still around by the time of Yavin.

Quorl was a DS-61 pilot during the battle of Yavin - his TIE took a hit but not an instantly fatal one and he managed to make it to Yavin's moon (sorry, wasn't clear), and crashed in the jungle. He survived for quite a few years and ultimately ended up taking jedi students hostage when Luke reopened the academy there. He's essentially the TIE version of the 'Japanese Pilot stranded on Pacific Island who doesn't know the war is over'.

Wampa is equally not a contemporary, because (Quorl aside) every DS-61 pilot except Vader is killed at Yavin. When he flies, at Endor, he is apparently DS-61-11, Black Eleven (see comment about 12-ship squadrons above).

Tycho has been shot down while in an Eyeball too and survived (by his own X-Wing none-the-less)...

He has indeed, whilst pretending to be an Imperial pilot. I think it was Winter who was flying it?

Tycho has been shot down while in an Eyeball too and survived (by his own X-Wing none-the-less)...

He has indeed, whilst pretending to be an Imperial pilot. I think it was Winter who was flying it?

That's what he claims, but I still think it was his R2 unit.

Garven works best of course with pilots who can use the Focus in conjunction with another ability, or bouncing them around to craft with equal or lesser pilot skill. Him and "Dutch" are a really super solid combo when paired with nearly any other ship, especially a Moldy Crow HWK with a turret.

But then haven't you then concocted a squad of nothing but support ships with no really great offence? Wedge instead of the HWK or something?

Garven works best of course with pilots who can use the Focus in conjunction with another ability, or bouncing them around to craft with equal or lesser pilot skill. Him and "Dutch" are a really super solid combo when paired with nearly any other ship, especially a Moldy Crow HWK with a turret.

But then haven't you then concocted a squad of nothing but support ships with no really great offence? Wedge instead of the HWK or something?

Not really, your just doubling up all your tokens which is great, Even support ships can do a fair amount of damage if they are TL and Focusing every turn. I've been running something similar and it's been doing very well.

Garven works best of course with pilots who can use the Focus in conjunction with another ability, or bouncing them around to craft with equal or lesser pilot skill. Him and "Dutch" are a really super solid combo when paired with nearly any other ship, especially a Moldy Crow HWK with a turret.

But then haven't you then concocted a squad of nothing but support ships with no really great offence? Wedge instead of the HWK or something?

Not really, your just doubling up all your tokens which is great, Even support ships can do a fair amount of damage if they are TL and Focusing every turn. I've been running something similar and it's been doing very well.

Cool - I'll give it a try. Maybe a turret on Dutch too?

EDIT: Heh, off topic much...

from my perspective there are already more than enough named TIE pilots, most of them I never heard of before the game (never really followed the more imperial side books/stories).

As mentioned, the mostly nameless/faceless character of the imperial side fits the theme well and also somewhat integrated in the ship costs of the basic game mechanics.

But that's just my view, depending on personal preferences that might look different.

From the selling perspective, I don't doubt that at some time we see another TIE as a repaint or a package with some other ship and they won't offer it without a new unique pilot.

(at least not unless the game dies first. )

Well, a lot of the smaller imperial capital ships (the things you might see as a counterpart to the transport) have the potential to carry TIE fighters on external racks, so it wouldn't surprise me to see some with that, if we ever get a Carrack or similar.

It would be completely OK if there where a second edition of the TIE Fighter expansion, including pilots from above.

No need for further repaints for the Empire ....

This don't goest for the bounty hunters of course. I'd buy a Krassis Trelix or Kath Scarlet version of the Firespray.

Maybe I could repaint them by myself ... but I'd probably mess them up. Lets see.... Maybe I'll give it a try