More headhunters I wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen flying.

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Would love if they'd finally release this for the star wars miniatures game you know the one where the starter set includes two Ties and an X-Wing...

I know the X-Wing is the Rebel Alliance's most prominent star fighter but really... its also the one star fighter your rebel group shouldn't use if they want to remain undercover...

But otherwise yes the Headhunter's do look great!

its also the one star fighter your rebel group shouldn't use if they want to remain undercover...

If they want to stay undercover they probably shouldn't show up in a squadron of military attack ships.

I think it is fairly likely that the Rebels cartoon will give us a new origin story for the X-Wing. At least I hope so. I am certainly not attached to the established EU version enough that I'd rather they make multiple series of a cartoon show about the rebel alliance without any X-Wings showing up than ignore it.

I personally like the idea of hyperdrive modded Z-95s being used by the Alliance for raids where they don't want the fact the Alliance was behind the attack to be obvious though I would equip such units with Novaswords, R-41s, or some of the Transgalmeg industries or Mandalmotors models often used by Independents over the Z-95 when possible.

I would also rather they leave the X-Wing origin off screen, or work within what has been established. Perhaps some of the pilots that stole the prototype X-Wings could be characters from the show? .

In my opinion, the Rebellion doesn't want to go unnoticed. Would you rather say, "Pirates hit the Empire," or "The glorious Rebel Alliance strikes yet another crucial blow to lessen the tyrannical reign of the cruel and hard Empire!"

Of course, being seen as pirates also works in that you say that rag-tag pirates were able to somehow break through the defenses of the highly acclaimed Imperial fleet and, in an effort to just grab guns and credits, blew up an Imperial shuttle with important personnel on board.

Decisions, decisions...

In my opinion, the Rebellion doesn't want to go unnoticed. Would you rather say, "Pirates hit the Empire," or "The glorious Rebel Alliance strikes yet another crucial blow to lessen the tyrannical reign of the cruel and hard Empire!"

I concur.

I say the Rebellion hides itself with Ninja Stealth.

Ninja do not conceal themselves by blending in with the crowd. If you see a Ninja, you know instantly who and what they are.

But you do not see Ninja.

Same with the Alliance. If you see a rebel ship you know what it is. But, like the Ninja, they use their superior mobility and intelligence gathering to remain out of sight and to quickly break contact if they are spotted.

Actually ninjas are masters of disguise. The standard tactic of a ninja of the original folklore is to disguise themselves as someone innocuous and use that to get close to their target.

Also a lot of rebel ships are either pretty common or used by other factions. Like the very first rebel ship we see- the Tantive IV. It's ostensibly a consular ship, similar ships having been used for that purpose since at least the end of the Clone Wars. Yet we see the same class in the Rebel fleet later on. That's not even getting into the Nebulon-B, the main frigate of Imperial Escort Forces and also a mainstay of the Rebel fleet. The main ship we see that is immediately recognizable as a rebel ship is their Star Cruisers.

Actually ninjas are masters of disguise. The standard tactic of a ninja of the original folklore is to disguise themselves as someone innocuous and use that to get close to their target.

Pretty much no one thinks that is as cool as putting on the black pajamas and backflipping off a wall, which is kind of why your modern Ninja tends to look like Ryu Hayabusa.

In my opinion, the Rebellion doesn't want to go unnoticed. Would you rather say, "Pirates hit the Empire," or "The glorious Rebel Alliance strikes yet another crucial blow to lessen the tyrannical reign of the cruel and hard Empire!"

Of course, being seen as pirates also works in that you say that rag-tag pirates were able to somehow break through the defenses of the highly acclaimed Imperial fleet and, in an effort to just grab guns and credits, blew up an Imperial shuttle with important personnel on board.

Decisions, decisions...

Yeah I'm not saying every mission would fall under that category but there will logically be times IMO when the rebels want to hit a target without the Empire realizing it was the Alliance behind the attack. While many capital ship models used by the Alliance would be suited for the task of the common Rebel fighters only the Y-Wing is widely used by other groups, and it would make sense to me for them to have better suited for dogfighting available for such missions.

No, sorry not everyone wants everything to be as over the top as you.

How would the Alliance launching missions using fighter models not instantly identifiable as being rebel, some of which like the hyper equipped Z-95s and R-41s have already been shown as having been used by the rebels, be over the top?

Pretty much no one thinks that is as cool as putting on the black pajamas and backflipping off a wall, which is kind of why your modern Ninja tends to look like Ryu Hayabusa.

I play a lot of fighting games, and I really loathe Hayabusa and those kind of anime ninjas.

Tekken is amusing, because it has two - Kunimitsu is kind of a collection of bad ninja tropes, with over-the-top silliness like teleporting, flame breath, ludicrous backflips, etc. Oh, and she's masked and blind.

Raven, on the other hand, is an actual secret agent, his fighting style is very practical, concentrating on fast take-downs, holds, sudden-death stuff, the kind of things that would actually be useful to a stealth assassin. And he's black, and Canadian. And he does the magic stuff while looking cool instead of silly.

You forgot the part that Kunimitsu isn't Wesley Snipes.

I love how we have both ninjas and pirates in this thread. We're bringing it back to 2008.

How would the Alliance launching missions using fighter models not instantly identifiable as being rebel, some of which like the hyper equipped Z-95s and R-41s have already been shown as having been used by the rebels, be over the top?

I was talking to ErikB, who apparently doesn't like that idea. I approve of it.

I like how Legend of the Five Rings has the Scorpion Clan treat the concept of "ninja"...

Pretty much, you go through a year or so of wearing black pajamas and using some of the worst 'weapons' imaginable... and if you survive that year, then you learn how to do it right. Such as using a disguise as someone a samurai typically wouldn't pay attention to, namely a household servant, and using generally undetectable poison to kill the target while the rookiees are outside serving as the distraction. After all, the best assassins are the ones that the enemy never knew where there until it's much too late (preferably when the target's already dead).

That is a much cooler-looking take on the Z-95 than I have seen everywhere else. With the Rebels series coming up (and I'm actually firmly in the camp of "Clone Wars was good"), I would like to see them go the same route towards the X-Wing that they went in Clone Wars with the Bombers. Y'know... in Clone Wars, it was clearly a Y-Wing, but it wasn't "really" a Y-Wing, if you were using A New Hope as the reference. Cool nonetheless.

Anyone who has paid any attention at all to the EU knows the Z-95 was the predecessor to the X-Wing, it would be cool for Disney/Lucas to embrace that and introduce a Z-95 in their animated series.

If they looked like the image ErikB posted, I could get excited!

Would love if they'd finally release this for the star wars miniatures game you know the one where the starter set includes two Ties and an X-Wing...

I know the X-Wing is the Rebel Alliance's most prominent star fighter but really... its also the one star fighter your rebel group shouldn't use if they want to remain undercover...

But otherwise yes the Headhunter's do look great!

Actually the only reason the rebels have X-wings at all is because they stole them from the Empire.Also I don't believe the Rebels fly any cool ships(tends to happen when you are basically an unpopular fringe group),this Imperial ship is very cool however Alpha -class Xg-1 Star Wing .

Actually ninjas are masters of disguise. The standard tactic of a ninja of the original folklore is to disguise themselves as someone innocuous and use that to get close to their target.

Pretty much no one thinks that is as cool as putting on the black pajamas and backflipping off a wall, which is kind of why your modern Ninja tends to look like Ryu Hayabusa.

As usual, you don't speak for everyone so stop posting as though you do.

I like how Legend of the Five Rings has the Scorpion Clan treat the concept of "ninja"...

Pretty much, you go through a year or so of wearing black pajamas and using some of the worst 'weapons' imaginable... and if you survive that year, then you learn how to do it right. Such as using a disguise as someone a samurai typically wouldn't pay attention to, namely a household servant, and using generally undetectable poison to kill the target while the rookiees are outside serving as the distraction. After all, the best assassins are the ones that the enemy never knew where there until it's much too late (preferably when the target's already dead).

Yeah, real ninja attacks are covered by the black pajama squad. And nobody acknowledges ninjas actually exist, because Honor.

Would love if they'd finally release this for the star wars miniatures game you know the one where the starter set includes two Ties and an X-Wing...

I know the X-Wing is the Rebel Alliance's most prominent star fighter but really... its also the one star fighter your rebel group shouldn't use if they want to remain undercover...

But otherwise yes the Headhunter's do look great!

Actually the only reason the rebels have X-wings at all is because they stole them from the Empire.Also I don't believe the Rebels fly any cool ships(tends to happen when you are basically an unpopular fringe group),this Imperial ship is very cool however Alpha -class Xg-1 Star Wing .

The Star Wing wasn't bad but it would lose one on one against an X-Wing in most cases IMO. It was more suited for the Y-Wing role based on its stats then for taking on other modern fighters. It definitely outclasses the Y-Wing but they have similar weapons arrays. though The Star Wing's Lasers and Ions are superior to the Y-Wing as are its defenses. The Lasers are still weaker than an X-Wing's though.

And based on the recent Guide to Warfare development of the X-Wing was an secret in-house project of Incom's which the Empire didn't know about until the corporation was nationalized, and the defection of the design staff which led to the Alliance getting it.

Would love if they'd finally release this for the star wars miniatures game you know the one where the starter set includes two Ties and an X-Wing...

I know the X-Wing is the Rebel Alliance's most prominent star fighter but really... its also the one star fighter your rebel group shouldn't use if they want to remain undercover...

But otherwise yes the Headhunter's do look great!

Actually the only reason the rebels have X-wings at all is because they stole them from the Empire.Also I don't believe the Rebels fly any cool ships(tends to happen when you are basically an unpopular fringe group),this Imperial ship is very cool however Alpha -class Xg-1 Star Wing .

The Star Wing wasn't bad but it would lose one on one against an X-Wing in most cases IMO. It was more suited for the Y-Wing role based on its stats then for taking on other modern fighters. It definitely outclasses the Y-Wing but they have similar weapons arrays. though The Star Wing's Lasers and Ions are superior to the Y-Wing as are its defenses. The Lasers are still weaker than an X-Wing's though.

And based on the recent Guide to Warfare development of the X-Wing was an secret in-house project of Incom's which the Empire didn't know about until the corporation was nationalized, and the defection of the design staff which led to the Alliance getting it.

I agree with that but also remember that was first mentioned in Empire at War and even the Rebels had the steal it and leave mentality.