Raymond Flint and Frame Job

By twinstarbmc, in Android: Netrunner Rules Questions

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I've got $5 riding on this. Here's some background, adding highlights to the relevant portions of the cards.

Raymond Flint: "Whenever the Corp takes a least 1 bad publicity, access 1 card from HQ."

Clone Retirement: "When the Runner steals Clone Retirement, the Corp takes 1 bad publicity."
Hostile Takeover: "When you score Hostile takeover, gain 7 [Credits] and take 1 bad publicity."
Frame Job: "Forfeit an agenda. If you do, give the Corp 1 bad publicity. "

The way I'm reading this, Raymond Flint does not work with Frame Job, because with Frame Job you're giving the corp a bad publicity. They're not taking it.

Flint doesn't say "Whenever the Corp takes or is given at least 1 bad publicity...." Frame Job does not say "If yo do, the Corp takes 1 bad publicity." I feel that the wording here is very deliberate, and therefore, these two cards do not combo.

English and grammar aside, I can explain it flavor-wise as well. When the Corp takes bad publicity, it's because they're doing legitimately shady things of their own volition. Flint, being a PI, would know that. But with Frame Job, the runner's the one doing something shady and pinning it on the Corp. Flint would recognize this bad pub as false.

Am I right? Or am I just being a tongue-clucking grammarian?

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If you give it, they take it. Sorry, I'm afraid you're out half a sawbuck. Raymond Flint is just the first runner card that uses the verb "give;" it's just the runner side of the Give&Take dichotomy.