Since I learned that we were doing our advancements incorrectly, I've had a bit of a change of heart as to what careers I want to pursue. I /just/ received my 11th point, so I just finished up with the Scribe career.

Well, to finish it up, I needed to pick a talent. I chose to get a Focus talent that lets me use Int instead of Str for Intimidate checks. It sounds pretty cool and it lets me diversify a bit. The problem? I'm not trained in Intimidate and I really want to be.

So, I went digging. I looked at all the careers in the player's guide to see who gets Intimidate as a career skill. I kept looking and looking and looking. Did you know that every career that has Intimidate as a career skill is either for Humans, Dwarfs, or Wild Elfs? There wasn't a single one for a High Elf.

So, my options are to either train it by spending 2 points (yuck) or, and this is what I'm hoping, there's a career out there for High Elf that gives Intimidate that I'm just not aware of. Is there one? And if not, do you think it's worth it to go ahead and train it out of class or should I just enjoy that I can do another neat little trick, even if it's not that great?

I'd just stick with Charm or Guile, which seems more appropriate for fellowship-based intimidation anyways..but it will affect your social action abilities as a technicality. Maybe work it out with your GM to trade out a different skill.

jh

I just can't get over the idea of this puny High Elf Scribe scaring the crap out of people with a ridiculously high intimidate. It's funny and it actually fits the direction the character has been going as far as roleplay development.

Check Yepesnopes' signature. He has a LOT of high elf career conversions completed.

Well explaining-into that:

A 'proper high elf' comes from an advanced civilization with a well-developed society and customs. They sometimes resolve things by fighting but usually by argument or rhetoric or similar. If force must be used, let it be used honestly and not by mere bravado threat - let it be used openly in duel or display of arms even if not to death.

So of course they can acquire skill but if it's with non-career advances so be it.

That said, I would give any elf a bonus on intimidate against most humans just because, "elves is freaky scary", though a penalty with dwarves and no adjustment with ogres or halflings. If doing that, then some penalties when trying to be charming etc. also in order. Particularly if appearing anywhere either of the elf PCs in my campaign have (Mr. Shoot First and don't bother to explain why to the humans and Mr. Leave the Thinking to Me Monkey Boy).

Well, I figured out the answer to my own question. In case someone else ever wants to know the answer, I'll put it here.

When I initially said that none of the High Elf careers gave Intimidate as a career skill, that was based on all the careers from the Player's Guide and earlier. As it turns out, there are 3 that were released in the more recent books.

Duellist: Advanced career. Combat, Intermediate, Noble, Social.

Herald: Advanced career. Bureaucrat, Intermediate, Social, Urban

Crime Lord: Advanced career: Elite, Rogue, Social, Urban

So if you run into a scary High Elf during your travels, realize that they are in an advanced career.