help with tourney choice

By swampthing2, in X-Wing

First the background.

This is a tournament amoungst friends, some closer than others, some whom have played a lot and others hardly at all.

6 players, round robin, my best guess will be 3 rebel players 3 imp. £3 entry and 7 FFG game night kit stress tokens as a 1st place prize and a Mauler Mithel alternate art as 2nd.

It is for fun, but cant shake my competitive side hence a half arsed competitive squad( Possible glass cannon approach) but fun

I am sure one player will probably play 2x Blue B-wing and 2x Green A-wing some sort of ordnance and PTL

Another pretty certain

Dutch + ion + R2D2

Wedge + PTL + R2

Ibitsam + EU + PTL

My choices ...Very similar but thoughts please.. wont have time to test them

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Proton Torp (36)

7 Turr + PTL + Stealth (31)

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Homer + AR (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

Same as above but Rhymer gets VI , making them all a PS9

Hate to say it, but 3 imperial ships just won't cut it competitively. What other ships do you have available?

You really want to go on a turney with Rhymer, don't you?

Try to go with at least 4 ships, like 2 stars and a pack of grunts.

33 points
Soontir Fel
Push the Limit, Stealth Device
41 points
Major Rhymer
Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Push the Limit
13 points
Obsidian Squadron Pilot #1
13 points
Obsidian Squadron Pilot #2

or even:

39 points
Major Rhymer
Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Cluster Missiles, Push the Limit
25 points
Turr Phennir
12 points
Academy Pilot #1
12 points
Academy Pilot #2
12 points
Academy Pilot #3
or skip Rhymer and go for Howlrunner:
30 points
Soontir Fel
Push the Limit
26 points
Turr Phennir
Veteran Instincts
20 points
Howlrunner
Elusiveness
12 points
Academy Pilot #1
12 points
Academy Pilot #2
Edited by TheRealStarkiller

I have as some of you may know been obsessed with bombers recently and assumed I would fly bombers or bombers and ties.

Tested 3 different 4 bomber squads the other night and that is partly what tipped me towards fun more than competitive.

The simple answer to I want to fly Rhymer is that I want to fly at least one Bomber and obviously if only one then Rhymer is your man.

I have just had so much fun in the past with a Soontir, Turr Vader squad I thought I would twist it up.

If your intersted, The two I illiminated to limit the field to this one (3 variants ) were

Vader + Assault

Rhymer + APT + Homer + VI/ AR

Jonus + VI + PB

Gamma + Cluster (22)

Gamma + Cluster + PB (27)

Gamma + Proton Torp + PB (27)

Jonus + Squad Leader (24)

I am organising the tourney and as I am required to do some admin and possibly answer questions as we go from the noobs I wanted to have something easy to fly ( less ships) and fairly independent on each other.

@ DraconPyrothayon , I have enough ships to fly pretty much most things

I am certain there will be no swarm so we don't have to worry about that.

@ RealStarKiller I quite like that second list.

i prefer others but they dont necessarily include Rhymer, I see what you have done.

I find it very hard to not make him cost more than a Falcon when trying to include him.

I rember your post where you loaded him up to close to 50pts all or nothing.

Can't say I haven't wanted to test it myself

So if possible one of the 3 please but suggestions are welcome

If you are a bomberman, have you considered 5x Scimitar, each with a Concussion? 100 points on the dot, and the best Alpha Strike in the game :D

4 Bombers are competitive.

TIE Bombers are my favourite models, so I really like to use them as well ;)

Try:

Jonus + PT

Gamma + PT

Gamma + PT + CM

Gamma + PT + CM

Box formation with the Gammas carrying CM to the front. CM + Jonus are insane.

Edited by TheRealStarkiller

First the background.

This is a tournament amoungst friends, some closer than others, some whom have played a lot and others hardly at all.

6 players, round robin, my best guess will be 3 rebel players 3 imp. £3 entry and 7 FFG game night kit stress tokens as a 1st place prize and a Mauler Mithel alternate art as 2nd.

It is for fun, but cant shake my competitive side hence a half arsed competitive squad( Possible glass cannon approach) but fun

I am sure one player will probably play 2x Blue B-wing and 2x Green A-wing some sort of ordnance and PTL

Another pretty certain

Dutch + ion + R2D2

Wedge + PTL + R2

Ibitsam + EU + PTL

My choices ...Very similar but thoughts please.. wont have time to test them

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Proton Torp (36)

7 Turr + PTL + Stealth (31)

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Homer + AR (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

Same as above but Rhymer gets VI , making them all a PS9

do u have an advanced tie?

for the same points u r spending on Rhymer id go with...

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

9 Vader+ Homer + Engine Upgrade (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

higher PS, better manouvre dial, u still get homing missiles, boost on vader is no joke and fun to play :)

do u have an advanced tie?

for the same points u r spending on Rhymer id go with...

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

9 Vader+ Homer + Engine Upgrade (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

higher PS, better manouvre dial, u still get homing missiles, boost on vader is no joke and fun to play :)

I do have x2 Advanced and have flown that squad before, I LIKE IT, but been there done it is the case.

It is what inspired this build.

Edited by swampthing

4 Bombers are competitive.

TIE Bombers are my favourite models, so I really like to use them as well ;)

Try:

Jonus + PT

Gamma + PT

Gamma + PT + CM

Gamma + PT + CM

Box formation with the Gammas carrying CM to the front. CM + Jonus are insane.

Why the PT on Jonus and not a Cluster on the Gamma

4 Bombers are competitive.

TIE Bombers are my favourite models, so I really like to use them as well ;)

Try:

Jonus + PT

Gamma + PT

Gamma + PT + CM

Gamma + PT + CM

Box formation with the Gammas carrying CM to the front. CM + Jonus are insane.

Why the PT on Jonus and not a Cluster on the Gamma

Thats an option. Jonus has a higher ps and 4 x PT is a good first strike (or 2 x CM + 2 x PT if the enemy is at range 1 of your front bombers)

If you like it hard, try 'All Or Nothing #2':

46 points
Major Rhymer
Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Push the Limit, Proton Bombs
27 points
Saber Squadron Pilot #1
Push the Limit, Stealth Device
27 points
Saber Squadron Pilot #2
Push the Limit, Stealth Device

Protect Rhymer at all costs ;)

do u have an advanced tie?

for the same points u r spending on Rhymer id go with...

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

9 Vader+ Homer + Engine Upgrade (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

higher PS, better manouvre dial, u still get homing missiles, boost on vader is no joke and fun to play :)

I do have x2 Advanced and have flown that squad before, I LIKE IT, but been there done it is the case.

It is what inspired this build.

fair enough - ur looking to experiment with a new version eh?

here r a few imperial squads to consider..

Squad#1(100pts)

Bounty Hunter +HLC

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader

2x Alpha Squadron

Squad#2 (100pts)

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader + Seismic Charges

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

2x Academy Pilot

Squad#3 (100pts)

Bobba Fett + Proton Bomb (or gunner)

Soontir Fell + PTL

Turr Phennir + VI

Hello,

Just to help you to tweak and optimize your build propositions, you can load them in the Squadrons Generators using either a permalink then click on the X-wing Miniatures Free mode image or load the code here http://fabpsb.free.fr/load.php then click on the X-wing Miniatures Free mode image

Squad#1(100pts)

Bounty Hunter +HLC

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader

2x Alpha Squadron

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e17c1e29m5e23e23

code : e17c1e29m5e23e23

Squad#2 (100pts)

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader + Seismic Charges

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

2x Academy Pilot

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e29m5b2e31g2g3e31g2g3e6e6

code : e29m5b2e31g2g3e31g2g3e6e6

Squad#3 (100pts)

Bobba Fett + Proton Bomb (or gunner)

Soontir Fell + PTL

Turr Phennir + VI

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e14b3e18m10e19m8

code : e14b3e18m10e19m8

For Boba Fett with gunner

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e14d5e18m10e19m8

code : e14d5e18m10e19m8

After the build, you can use the calculator feature ( math.png ) to check the extensions you need to own to build your squadrons.

bye.

Edited by fab74

100 points

Captain Jonus

Gamma Squadron Pilot + 2 Proton Torpedos x3

Two rounds of alpha strikes. Melt 2-3 ships in the first 2 rounds and then mop up. I haven't tried it but it would be interesting.

3 Proton Torpedos with Jonus does 7.9 average damage vs a 2 agility target.

4 Proton Torpedos without Jonus does 7.8 average damage vs a 2 agility target.

You should be able to take out any one ship in the first round, possibly with firepower to spare. The main weaknesses would be:

  • You have to shoot at Biggs, and can't TL him the first round
  • Jonus gets sniped before your PS4 ships shoot (keep him in the back as far as you can!)
  • You are forced to take TLs on poor targets
  • You don't have 4 bombers :P

Edit: Proton Torpedo is better than Concussion Missile if you don't have a Focus, since you get a crit instead of a hit.

Double Edit: 5x Proton Torpedos or Concussion Missiles will do 9.74 average damage vs 2 agility. So you get a slightly better alpha strike in that case, by about 2 hits, but you then have zero follow-up.

Edited by MajorJuggler

Thankfully I do have 4 bombers, Thx.

I always welcome your number crunching expertise

But I am set on flying one of the 3 squads I posted so if anyone has an opinion on those please give feedback

It is a tourney for fun after all