help with tourney choice

By swampthing2, in X-Wing

First the background.

This is a tournament amoungst friends, some closer than others, some whom have played a lot and others hardly at all.

6 players, round robin, my best guess will be 3 rebel players 3 imp. £3 entry and 7 FFG game night kit stress tokens as a 1st place prize and a Mauler Mithel alternate art as 2nd.

It is for fun, but cant shake my competitive side hence a half arsed competitive squad( Possible glass cannon approach) but fun

I am sure one player will probably play 2x Blue B-wing and 2x Green A-wing some sort of ordnance and PTL

Another pretty certain

Dutch + ion + R2D2

Wedge + PTL + R2

Ibitsam + EU + PTL

My choices ...Very similar but thoughts please.. wont have time to test them

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Proton Torp (36)

7 Turr + PTL + Stealth (31)

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Homer + AR (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

Same as above but Rhymer gets VI , making them all a PS9

Hate to say it, but 3 imperial ships just won't cut it competitively. What other ships do you have available?

You really want to go on a turney with Rhymer, don't you?

Try to go with at least 4 ships, like 2 stars and a pack of grunts.

33 points
Soontir Fel
Push the Limit, Stealth Device
41 points
Major Rhymer
Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Push the Limit
13 points
Obsidian Squadron Pilot #1
13 points
Obsidian Squadron Pilot #2

or even:

39 points
Major Rhymer
Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Cluster Missiles, Push the Limit
25 points
Turr Phennir
12 points
Academy Pilot #1
12 points
Academy Pilot #2
12 points
Academy Pilot #3
or skip Rhymer and go for Howlrunner:
30 points
Soontir Fel
Push the Limit
26 points
Turr Phennir
Veteran Instincts
20 points
Howlrunner
Elusiveness
12 points
Academy Pilot #1
12 points
Academy Pilot #2
Edited by TheRealStarkiller

I have as some of you may know been obsessed with bombers recently and assumed I would fly bombers or bombers and ties.

Tested 3 different 4 bomber squads the other night and that is partly what tipped me towards fun more than competitive.

The simple answer to I want to fly Rhymer is that I want to fly at least one Bomber and obviously if only one then Rhymer is your man.

I have just had so much fun in the past with a Soontir, Turr Vader squad I thought I would twist it up.

If your intersted, The two I illiminated to limit the field to this one (3 variants ) were

Vader + Assault

Rhymer + APT + Homer + VI/ AR

Jonus + VI + PB

Gamma + Cluster (22)

Gamma + Cluster + PB (27)

Gamma + Proton Torp + PB (27)

Jonus + Squad Leader (24)

I am organising the tourney and as I am required to do some admin and possibly answer questions as we go from the noobs I wanted to have something easy to fly ( less ships) and fairly independent on each other.

@ DraconPyrothayon , I have enough ships to fly pretty much most things

I am certain there will be no swarm so we don't have to worry about that.

@ RealStarKiller I quite like that second list.

i prefer others but they dont necessarily include Rhymer, I see what you have done.

I find it very hard to not make him cost more than a Falcon when trying to include him.

I rember your post where you loaded him up to close to 50pts all or nothing.

Can't say I haven't wanted to test it myself

So if possible one of the 3 please but suggestions are welcome

If you are a bomberman, have you considered 5x Scimitar, each with a Concussion? 100 points on the dot, and the best Alpha Strike in the game :D

4 Bombers are competitive.

TIE Bombers are my favourite models, so I really like to use them as well ;)

Try:

Jonus + PT

Gamma + PT

Gamma + PT + CM

Gamma + PT + CM

Box formation with the Gammas carrying CM to the front. CM + Jonus are insane.

Edited by TheRealStarkiller

First the background.

This is a tournament amoungst friends, some closer than others, some whom have played a lot and others hardly at all.

6 players, round robin, my best guess will be 3 rebel players 3 imp. £3 entry and 7 FFG game night kit stress tokens as a 1st place prize and a Mauler Mithel alternate art as 2nd.

It is for fun, but cant shake my competitive side hence a half arsed competitive squad( Possible glass cannon approach) but fun

I am sure one player will probably play 2x Blue B-wing and 2x Green A-wing some sort of ordnance and PTL

Another pretty certain

Dutch + ion + R2D2

Wedge + PTL + R2

Ibitsam + EU + PTL

My choices ...Very similar but thoughts please.. wont have time to test them

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Proton Torp (36)

7 Turr + PTL + Stealth (31)

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

7 Rhymer + APT + Homer + AR (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

Same as above but Rhymer gets VI , making them all a PS9

do u have an advanced tie?

for the same points u r spending on Rhymer id go with...

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

9 Vader+ Homer + Engine Upgrade (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

higher PS, better manouvre dial, u still get homing missiles, boost on vader is no joke and fun to play :)

do u have an advanced tie?

for the same points u r spending on Rhymer id go with...

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

9 Vader+ Homer + Engine Upgrade (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

higher PS, better manouvre dial, u still get homing missiles, boost on vader is no joke and fun to play :)

I do have x2 Advanced and have flown that squad before, I LIKE IT, but been there done it is the case.

It is what inspired this build.

Edited by swampthing

4 Bombers are competitive.

TIE Bombers are my favourite models, so I really like to use them as well ;)

Try:

Jonus + PT

Gamma + PT

Gamma + PT + CM

Gamma + PT + CM

Box formation with the Gammas carrying CM to the front. CM + Jonus are insane.

Why the PT on Jonus and not a Cluster on the Gamma

4 Bombers are competitive.

TIE Bombers are my favourite models, so I really like to use them as well ;)

Try:

Jonus + PT

Gamma + PT

Gamma + PT + CM

Gamma + PT + CM

Box formation with the Gammas carrying CM to the front. CM + Jonus are insane.

Why the PT on Jonus and not a Cluster on the Gamma

Thats an option. Jonus has a higher ps and 4 x PT is a good first strike (or 2 x CM + 2 x PT if the enemy is at range 1 of your front bombers)

If you like it hard, try 'All Or Nothing #2':

46 points
Major Rhymer
Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Advanced Proton Torpedoes, Push the Limit, Proton Bombs
27 points
Saber Squadron Pilot #1
Push the Limit, Stealth Device
27 points
Saber Squadron Pilot #2
Push the Limit, Stealth Device

Protect Rhymer at all costs ;)

do u have an advanced tie?

for the same points u r spending on Rhymer id go with...

9 Soontir + PTL + Stealth (33)

9 Vader+ Homer + Engine Upgrade (38)

9 Turr + VI + Stealth (29)

higher PS, better manouvre dial, u still get homing missiles, boost on vader is no joke and fun to play :)

I do have x2 Advanced and have flown that squad before, I LIKE IT, but been there done it is the case.

It is what inspired this build.

fair enough - ur looking to experiment with a new version eh?

here r a few imperial squads to consider..

Squad#1(100pts)

Bounty Hunter +HLC

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader

2x Alpha Squadron

Squad#2 (100pts)

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader + Seismic Charges

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

2x Academy Pilot

Squad#3 (100pts)

Bobba Fett + Proton Bomb (or gunner)

Soontir Fell + PTL

Turr Phennir + VI

Hello,

Just to help you to tweak and optimize your build propositions, you can load them in the Squadrons Generators using either a permalink then click on the X-wing Miniatures Free mode image or load the code here http://fabpsb.free.fr/load.php then click on the X-wing Miniatures Free mode image

Squad#1(100pts)

Bounty Hunter +HLC

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader

2x Alpha Squadron

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e17c1e29m5e23e23

code : e17c1e29m5e23e23

Squad#2 (100pts)

Captain Jonus + Squad Leader + Seismic Charges

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

Scimitar Squadron + Cluster Missiles + Assault Missiles

2x Academy Pilot

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e29m5b2e31g2g3e31g2g3e6e6

code : e29m5b2e31g2g3e31g2g3e6e6

Squad#3 (100pts)

Bobba Fett + Proton Bomb (or gunner)

Soontir Fell + PTL

Turr Phennir + VI

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e14b3e18m10e19m8

code : e14b3e18m10e19m8

For Boba Fett with gunner

permalink : http://fabpsb.free.fr/permalink.php?sq=e14d5e18m10e19m8

code : e14d5e18m10e19m8

After the build, you can use the calculator feature (math.png) to check the extensions you need to own to build your squadrons.

bye.

Edited by fab74

100 points

Captain Jonus

Gamma Squadron Pilot + 2 Proton Torpedos x3

Two rounds of alpha strikes. Melt 2-3 ships in the first 2 rounds and then mop up. I haven't tried it but it would be interesting.

3 Proton Torpedos with Jonus does 7.9 average damage vs a 2 agility target.

4 Proton Torpedos without Jonus does 7.8 average damage vs a 2 agility target.

You should be able to take out any one ship in the first round, possibly with firepower to spare. The main weaknesses would be:

  • You have to shoot at Biggs, and can't TL him the first round
  • Jonus gets sniped before your PS4 ships shoot (keep him in the back as far as you can!)
  • You are forced to take TLs on poor targets
  • You don't have 4 bombers :P

Edit: Proton Torpedo is better than Concussion Missile if you don't have a Focus, since you get a crit instead of a hit.

Double Edit: 5x Proton Torpedos or Concussion Missiles will do 9.74 average damage vs 2 agility. So you get a slightly better alpha strike in that case, by about 2 hits, but you then have zero follow-up.

Edited by MajorJuggler

Thankfully I do have 4 bombers, Thx.

I always welcome your number crunching expertise

But I am set on flying one of the 3 squads I posted so if anyone has an opinion on those please give feedback

It is a tourney for fun after all