In the Ravenor Series of books, Wysten Frauka had a limiter that toned down his Untouchable aura. Perhaps it should be added to the Armoury?

Great idea !

I like it, but I also think it should come with HUGE drawbacks for the Blank. The biggest bennefit is also the biggest drawback of being a blank. Am I dreaming (Many years since I read Ravenor), or Frauka "rested" from the limiter at some points?

Maybe it could be something like the Untouchable gaining 1 Fatigue for each day he wears it, needing to be at least 1 day without it to recover. Or something else, just to evade the "I switch off my drawbacks whenever I want" scenario.

Or just making it ***** rare and/or massively expensive.

That is not how it works in Ravenor at all.

He uses it because Ravenor is a psyker in a support throne, who spends virtually all his time using his psionics to run his ops, and only uses the limiter when he wants to hide himself, or to defend from nasty attacks.

There was no issue with Wysten using it for days and days on end.

putting in artifical "limits" on a limiter is just lol!

The downside is when the blank is limited ....everyone is susceptible to Psyk/Warp stuff, which is a pretty big downside.

If it were added, I think it should be under a list of items that are only available at GM discretion. Psychic blanks themselves are incredibly rare and a limiter for them would be even rarer, probably something the acolytes could only possibly receive from their Inquisitor.

If a limiter is added to the game, I feel it should only disable the benefits of talents in the Untouchable talent tree. The innate characteristics gained from taking the Untouchable advance (Resistance: Psychic Powers, immunity to Psychic Phenomena, and the Fellowship score reduction) should remain even while the Inhibitor is active. I feel this is necessary for game balance reasons; if the social penalties of being an Untouchable could be negated with an inhibitor, the Untouchable advance could be exploited too easily by just about any kind of non-psyker character.

As a random aside, how does an inhibitor work? Does it simulate the presence of a soul to counteract the innate soullessness of an Untouchable? If so, that sounds like extremely rare tech that would be hard to acquire in-game. Some particularly conservative Tech-priests might even think such a device is heretical, since no machine is supposed to possess true intelligence or a soul.

From what I've read it appears that it simply restricts the aura to the blank's own body.

As a random aside, how does an inhibitor work? Does it simulate the presence of a soul to counteract the innate soullessness of an Untouchable? If so, that sounds like extremely rare tech that would be hard to acquire in-game. Some particularly conservative Tech-priests might even think such a device is heretical, since no machine is supposed to possess true intelligence or a soul.

Sounds like Radical time!

Well, it sounds vaguely similar to the headgear of a Culexus, albeit with a lot of functionality stripped out. Sounds fairly **** hard to acquire, going by that.

And should have a serious downside on the Untouchable, as it otherwise easily takes away his weaknesses also.

Well, I would think that it's just as uncomfortable to an Untouchable to restrict their aura as it is for a Psyker to have their powers restricted by the Untouchable.

Untouchables are completely unaware of their powers, why would it make them uncomfortable?

Bequin's limiter in Pariah makes her instantly more relatable when it's switched on so there's definitely a precedent for removing one of the drawbacks of being an Untouchable. Seeing as how Limiters seem to be a rare technology indigenous to the Scarus sector, I'm willing to believe that they're Extremely Rare outside outside of Scarus. Who knows? The Bequin trilogy isn't over yet, maybe Limiter technology was completely destroyed along with the Cognitae and Eisenhorn's distaff. I'd suggest, if they must be represented in the rules, introduce them in a later supplement.

There's also "I'm the GM, so I'll introduce unique/interesting items that aren't in the book if I feel like it."

The problem with the idea of the limiter (which I think is a good idea but should be rare as hell) is that currently most of the downsides to being an untouchable arn't represented in the rules. They don't mechanically take any social penalties, which is a big oversight.

From what I've read it appears that it simply restricts the aura to the blank's own body.

The Bequin trilogy currently being published/written (with "Pariah" being the first book out) has the main character as a Blank with a limiter. (If the name is familiar, it's because this is a sequel trilogy to Eisenhorn and Ravenor's trilogies.)

With the main character's limiter switched on (it's an unassuming wrist band with a turndial switch), she appears to suffer almost no social troubles, and can be affected by psychic powers including telepathy.

The 'strength' of the psyker may come into play in that regard, but the limiter seems to almost completely nullify her 'Blankness'. Although there could of course be different kinds of limiters available, or none at all, at the GM's discretion.

This is sounding more and more like another one of those questionable Abnett things that doesn't really suit the setting at all.

I'm reading the Ravenor series currently, and even with his Limiter on, Ravenor still can't communicate with Frauka via telepathy and he presumably has all the other effects of being an untouchable. I'd definitely go with that version of a Limiter rather than "here's a switch that essentially makes all those detrimental effects that balance out the positives of being an untouchable non-existent".

The more I think about it the more I agree with Tom Cruise. I really am not sure this item will serve any purpose to an untouchable other than to let them have their cake and eat it. The Pariah gene is meant to be a curse to those who have it, letting every player requisition a piece of gear to let them avoid its effects is well... really lame.

That's Dark Age teck and you need a hell of a lot of friends in the cult to lern that one is in the sector.

A limiter could just reduce the powers range, depending on the limiters quality this could be more or less

I would suggest the limiter just reduces the Untouchable's aura to himself when it is turned on, otherwise the aura radiates out to it's full distance to disrupt any allied psykers.

But then theres no downside to using it if you havn't bought one of the 'bubbles' yet.

Its actually possible to build an untouchable that doesn't disprupt allies, you just have to avoid warp disruption. You can focus on deamon bane and psychic null. With the extortionate cost of the untouchable talents most characters that don't have a willpower aptitude will be likely only picking one or two fo the abilitis anyway

So the guy whose books where used basically as a framework for the rules of dark heresy dont work for the setting.

So spoiler alert:::

Frauka at the end of the Ravenor trilogy gets burnt out and loses his untouchable ability. Maybe there is an unknown link between using a limiter and the possibilty of it effecting you permanently?

Wasn't Frauka burned out by Zael, not the limiter?