How does Accelerated Diagnostics and Precognition work together? What happens if I play a second Accelerated Diagnostics while I'm in the middle of my first one?

I suppose since you're just looking at the cards, they're still a part of R&D, which gets even weirder if you Precog in the middle of it. I'm looking at three cards, I pull Precog and "play" it (so it is no longer in R&D). Do I set the two cards from Diagnostics aside and dig 5 more down, or do I take the top 3 and combine them with my Diagnostics 2, rearrange the order and now see (potentially) 2 different cards with Diagnostics?

If I play a second Diagnostics during the first do I see the next three cards down and combine that with my hand? Do I wait to finish resolving the first before digging into the second?

If I play a card in my top three from Accelerated Diagnostics can I bring that card back with Archived Memories? Like does playing the card from Diagnostics resolve first and go to Archives where the card can be retrieved or does it have to be an existing card from before the AD was played?

Thanks in advance for any answers you might have on these

Ugh, you're a bad person for finding such a sticky wicket.

So, let's parse this.

The key concept, as I read the rules, is that whenever you reveal cards from HQ or R&D, you do so one at a time. It's oddly worded, but I think it's basically supposed to work like Val (RotO). At least that's the only way I think it can work. Since the draw cap in Game of Thrones is three cards, the resemblance is even stronger. (I'm going out on a limb about when the card is trashed but I think it's supportable.)

So, you reveal the first card. If it's Precognition, yahtzee! Reorder the top 5 of R&D and try not to giggle malevolently. Then reveal a second card, then a third.

If the second card is Precognition, look at and rearrange 5 cards. Then reveal and play/trash one more card.

If the third card is Precognition, then you just rearrange 5 cards and you're done.

If you hit another Accelerated Diagnostics at any time, then it basically starts the cycle anew.

Ugh, you're a bad person for finding such a sticky wicket.

So, let's parse this.

The key concept, as I read the rules, is that whenever you reveal cards from HQ or R&D, you do so one at a time. It's oddly worded, but I think it's basically supposed to work like Val (RotO). At least that's the only way I think it can work. Since the draw cap in Game of Thrones is three cards, the resemblance is even stronger. (I'm going out on a limb about when the card is trashed but I think it's supportable.)

So, you reveal the first card. If it's Precognition, yahtzee! Reorder the top 5 of R&D and try not to giggle malevolently. Then reveal a second card, then a third.

If the second card is Precognition, look at and rearrange 5 cards. Then reveal and play/trash one more card.

If the third card is Precognition, then you just rearrange 5 cards and you're done.

If you hit another Accelerated Diagnostics at any time, then it basically starts the cycle anew.

Obviously just like you I have nothing to base this on but I don't think you're right. The reveal cards one at a time only applies to accessing cards. I think AD will work just like ABT. With ABT you get to look at all 3 cards right away before deciding where you'er going to put the ice that you drew. So I would imagine that you get to look at all 3 cards and then get to decide what order you play the operations that you drew in. So if you drew a precog you get to arrange the five cards after you drew the three. If you drew another AD with your initial AD then it just fires off and you draw three more and play any operations that are there but you have to play those operations first.

I have a rules inquiry to FFG.

Would be nice to know how long the wait is on those. Given how long some questions have been pending, I suspect there might be an updated FAQ on the horizon.

I have a rules inquiry to FFG.

Thanks and let us know what they say

Would be nice to know how long the wait is on those. Given how long some questions have been pending, I suspect there might be an updated FAQ on the horizon.

I think if it's an instance where an answer does exist, you get an answer. The more thorny the issue though, the less likely it is that they'll answer directly; I suppose they don't want lots of "official rulings" being quoted from private emails. I STILL haven't gotten an answer about the Scheherezade/Caissa issue.

Would be nice to know how long the wait is on those. Given how long some questions have been pending, I suspect there might be an updated FAQ on the horizon.

I think if it's an instance where an answer does exist, you get an answer. The more thorny the issue though, the less likely it is that they'll answer directly; I suppose they don't want lots of "official rulings" being quoted from private emails. I STILL haven't gotten an answer about the Scheherezade/Caissa issue.

Me either, and that's one of the reasons I suspect a new FAQ incoming (a LOT of people are asking that one). I guess between Plugged-In, Worlds, and two new Datapacks, there's a backlog AND whole lot more rules questions thundering into Lukas' inbox rigt now. So I understand there's a delay, it's just a pain as some of the questions are quite pressing. C'est la vie

I don't see what the HUGE mystery is ... You play it

Card 1 Precog
-> You Play it for the bottom 5
Then Draw up the next ( only 1 remaining after it) etc. etc.

If it's operation -> you play it ... simple

If you draw into second AD , then u simply count 3 cards from there ( which if it was your 1st or 2nd card, means that u will actually lose cards from the First AD, because the 3rd card of the first AD, would be the 1st card of the second AD etc. etc. )

Never "add-up " a chunk of cards to your HQ ... unless the card says so. Even when you Precog, you shouldn't mix the cards with your hand. If I was your opponent and I saw you doing that on a tournament I'd call a referee or organizer to punish you for possible cheating.


The real question, that puzzles me, is about the Archive Memories. Do the AD directly go to the discard after being played? or at the end of the click? Because if you draw up Archived Memories, you could possibly 2nd AD , if it's going directly to the archives after being played. If it's in the end of the click - you can't.

As far as the other question if you can AM a card you just played in AD, you should be able to. As far as my understanding goes, once the effect is done, the card is removed from play? Hence why you could Use a Card in AD and AM it back. However, it will be in your HQ, not in play.

Dydra, you didn't understand the question. (Again.)

There's two ways to interpret Accelerated Diagnostics.

• Do you look at one, and choose to play or discard it before moving on to the next? Precognition works just fine in this instance.
• Do you look at all three, and choose to play or discard them all together? If the first card you execute is Precognition (as you can choose the order of simultaneous effects) what of the other two cards you looked at?
• Are they considered to be part of R&D such that you'd count them, and potentially reorder them, by resolving Precognition? In so many words, Precognition+AD would then be "draw 5, choose 2, put the other 3 on top of your deck in any order, then resolve those 2 per AD."
  
  

At no time is anyone implying that these cards would enter or interact with HQ, so your objection there is immaterial.

If you AD'd into an Archived Memories operation, then there's no confusion there: you'd just choose a card in your trash and move it over to HQ, but you couldn't use it until AD was done resolving. So, say you had 6 credits and you AD'd into Hedge Fund, Restructure, Archived Memories. You'd be within your rights to "gain 4" with Hedge Fund (trash), "gain 5" with Restructure (trash), toss Restructure from Archives to HQ.

I asked Lukas if you could play the operations you find with AD in any order, and he said yes; so you look at all three cards and play any operations in the order you like. I sent in a follow-up question about how AD interacts with Precognition but haven't received an answer yet.

What happens if I play a second Accelerated Diagnostics while I'm in the middle of my first one?

Don't you have to wait for the first operation card to resolve before you can play another one because it costs a click?

What happens if I play a second Accelerated Diagnostics while I'm in the middle of my first one?

Don't you have to wait for the first operation card to resolve before you can play another one because it costs a click?

Have you seen Accelerated Diagnostics? It's like Accelerated Beta Test, but for Operations (and IS an Operation itself). So you spend a click to play AD, look at three cards. If any are Ops, you can play them. The question is, what if one of the three cards you look at is ALSO and Accelerated Diagnostics.

My question to Lukas:

How does Accelerated Diagnostics interact with a card like Precognition? If I find a Precognition with Accelerated Diagnostics, can I sort more operations into the top three cards (i.e. from R&D position four and five) and then play them as part of resolving Accelerated Diagnostics?

and his reply:

If you sort more operations into the top 3 cards, you cannot play with with Accelerated Diagnostics. You can only play the original 3 cards you looked at, and only if they do not move out of those top 3 positions. Hope that helps

My question to Lukas:

How does Accelerated Diagnostics interact with a card like Precognition? If I find a Precognition with Accelerated Diagnostics, can I sort more operations into the top three cards (i.e. from R&D position four and five) and then play them as part of resolving Accelerated Diagnostics?

and his reply:

If you sort more operations into the top 3 cards, you cannot play with with Accelerated Diagnostics. You can only play the original 3 cards you looked at, and only if they do not move out of those top 3 positions. Hope that helps

Oh, that's *interesting.*

So, while you're looking at the top 3 cards of R&D, they're still counted as the top 3 cards of R&D. Still, it might be a good way to save Operations that you don't meet the criteria for, like a Restructure if you don't have its down payment.

I'm confused why both you and Lucas keep talking about the top 3 positions. Wouldn't it be the 2 positions left since you've already played precog?

I'm confused why both you and Lucas keep talking about the top 3 positions. Wouldn't it be the 2 positions left since you've already played precog?

You're correct; this was later clarified on BGG (Tuism asked a lot of examples about AD interactions).