None of that is even remotely true but I'm not going to argue with you. If you want to believe that backyard mechanics can do better than the pros then there's no helping you.

You got me... Every little nudget of info I wrote here is wrong.

By the way could you please show the people here that is reading this topic that everything I wrote was wrong AND use refrences

Since I am wrong you would not be able to see that Y-Wing A4 carry 2 Talm & Bak KX5 Heavy duty Laser Cannons and that fact and other traits showning its rate of fire and power and that hey are refrenced in Return of the Jedi, Star Wars Complete Vehicles pages 155 & 195 and in Star Wars TIE FIGHTER The Stele Chronicles page 64.

Since I am wrong their is no way I could possible show that it is refrenced in Star Wars Complete vehicles pages 154 155 and 195 that a Y-Wing carries Two Armek SW-4 Ion cannons same for page 64 in Star Wars TIE Fighter The Stele Chronicles page 64 and page 177 in Star Wars The new essential guide to vehicles & vessels, to say the least finding a refrence on page 13 in Star Wars blue prints Rebel edition.

Their is no excuse for me saying that the Ion cannons are unreliable and their is no way you would find a refrence for it having that problem on page 155 in the Star Wars Complete vehicles.

You are also most wise for pointing out that SFS L-s 1 and up to 7.2 have never been mounted to TIE Fighters nor Y-TIE and I cant find a refrence for them ever having them in Star Wars the Stele Chronicles pages 73 & 77, nor pages 23, 151, 153, and 157 in Star Wars The new Essential guide to vehicles & vessels and def not on pages 144, 149, 156, 157, 164, 165, and 196 of Star Wars Complete vehicles.

You are correct, I am wrong that they never showed any TIE having a higher rate of fire than a Y-Wing A4 like in ep 4-6. You will never see refrences that 7.2 nor the 7.2 used by Scyth squadron being close to the power or better than the Taim & Bak KX5 Heavy Duty Laser Cannons or even the IX4 Blaster cannons used on Y-Wing BTLB nor BTL-S3 & BTL-S3 T. It does not matter if I mention those since they have no refrence on page 13 in Star Wars Blueprints Rebel edtion nor page 156 in Star Wars the Essential guide to warfare.

It was super dumb of me to think that a Y-Wing A4 has a Fabritich ANc-2.7 traking computer and quickscan vector imaging system. Their is no refrence for it having it nor it being the most accuret in the Rebel fleet nor it being long ranged on page 64 in Star Wars TIE Fighter the Stele chronicles page 155 in Star Wars Complete vehicles.

I was foolish and wrong to point out that That TIE fighters carry the SFS T-s8 targeting computer and that all targetting computers used by the Empire esp the SFS Ts9a targeting computer and SFS S-c4.1 multi-range TAG sensor are superior to ever Rebel, Republic, Old Republic, and New Rupublic fighters that have existed. THERE IS ABSOULTLY NO REFRENCE FOR THEM BEING SUPERIOR, including ecm and eccm, on page 166, 165, 157, 149 in Star Wars complete vehicles, nor page 159 in Star Wars the new essential guide to vehicles & vessels and no way is it refrenced on page 40 in Star Wars the visual dictionary.

You will never find a refrence in Star Wars CompleteVehicles page 96-97 that the Eta-2 Actis has no shields, no ecm, no eccm, It has no targeting computer nor composite scanning system unless a R unit is hooked up and has a over heating problem and must limit its rate of fire. No where can you find that the TIE Interceptor is one of the most lethal dog fighters ever made, is one of the most manuverable with the most advanced ion projectors ever made, has the most accurate targeting computer tied only with the TIE defender. You will never find a refrence that the Interceptor can easily carry other weapon and electroinc warefare equipment and or even more SFS L-s9.3 laser cannons, the most leathel starfighter weapons made. page 166, 196, 96, 97 Star Wars the complete vehicles. Page 31, 32, 74, 75 Star Wars TIE Fighter The Stele Chronicles. Page 45, 47,48, 63, 64, 65, 67,68, 69, 70,90,91,92,115,116,117,118, 173, 174,175,186,187,188,189, 198,199,200,201,215,216,219,220,221,238,,239,240,241,242,,243,245,246,247,248, 251,252,253,254,255,256,257,258, STAR WARS TIE Fighter the complete Stele chronicles. page 135, 146 from Star Wars The essential guide to WARFARE. Page 158 and 159 Star Wars the new essential guide to vehicles & vessels.

You can always see the truth and you know that their was never Y-Wings with laser or blaster turrets, page 156 Star Wars the essential guide to warefare. Let alone their ever being a Y-Wing with a medium laser cannon turret refrence Star Wars saga blu-ray special features Y-Wing.

You are correct, even though it uses the composite scanners of a TIE Fighter it doesnt really. Not only that but the scanners used by TIE Fighters are not used by TIE Fighters page 73 Star Wars TIE Fighter the Stele chronicles. And most of all it doesnt have a 3D 399+ detection/tracking range, Star Wars TIE Fighter.

I was wrong even though Y-TIEs use SFS P-s4 Twin ion engines from a TIE Fighter they don't really. They also don't have a acceleration of 4,100 G refrence page 156 Star Wars the essential guide to vehicles & vessels. And with the shields and repulser activated it sure wouldnt go real fast on planet refrence Star Wars ships of the galaxy.

I was very wrong to think that if this Y-TIE had the SFS P-s4 Twin ion engine that it would need the SFS I-a2b solar ionization reactor and solar panels to work correctly refrence page 72 & 73 Star Wars TIE fighter the Stele Chronicals, Star Wars Rogue Squadron: Blood and Honor. page 144 Star Wars complete vehicles.

I was stupid to think that the Y-TIE would be using the ecm and eccm systems a Y-Wing uses even though its not using a TIE Fighters. I am also ultra stupid for thinking a Y-Wing would be using the ecm and eccm systems a Y-Wing would use. Their is no refrence for it using any esp on page 11-13 Star Wars BluePrints Rebel edition.

I admit you are smarter than me by many times to the point that I dont deserve to be on the internet talking about the weather let alone Star Wars. I am sure you will post many refrences where a Rebel Pilot took an imperial SFS star fighter and used it till the day they died.

You are most sharp and clever to realize that Iran never had F-14 Tom Cats refrence AirForces monthly june 2005 page 52 and if they did they dont have better range than what the rest the world has refrence Combat Aircraft vol 7 no 6 page 33 7-8 nor where they enhanced with home made parts. In the US Navy side of things they sucked too and didnt have a targeting range of 400 miles see F-14 D, nor did they have the best air to ground capabilities where the suport choice of North American special forces refrence first refrence and Operation Iraq freedom VF-31st depoyment history. The greatest fighter pilot wasnt in the US Navy and his jet of choice was not a F-14 (Dale Snodgrass callsign SNORT) AIR & Space Smithsonian July 2010 page 32.

You do a sold job bringing to light that I was wrong that US AF did a full evaluation of the Iran Airforce and where conserned about the Iran F-14s refrence Combat Aircraft vol 7 no 6 page 28-35 and Combat Aircraft vol 9 no 6 page 56-65. And most importantly of all Iran F-14s cant have helmet mounted targeting systems (22s cant how ironic) cant use russian R-73 (AA-11 Archers) nor can they carry MIM-22B I-HAWK aka AIM-23C Sejil let alone at the same time as AIM-54 customes that are almost AIM-54C. refrence same as 2nd refrence.

Good job you realised I lied when I said that the US Airforce sent in special drones that put out massive electro magnetic fields as as ecm and that the targeting computer was powerful enough that even that drones ECM could not stop it. Refrence Combat Aircraft monthly October 2013 page 71 UFO Hunters. Yeah and I was never in a VF-41 Black Aces Super D nor was I schooled by a Navy vet in avation he never said I should teach his class

If this were Soulcalibur 4 I would be using Darth Vaders finisher on you right now

...Wow dude, nerd rampage much? o__o

Given in how much detail Black Knight Leader reads those books and similar, I am sure he can tell us each and every single time that said quoted sources disagree with each other in any way, shape, or form. I mean I know of absolutely NO situations in SW:EU books/comics/associated source materials where there are disagreements or things that turn out later to be outright wrong. >_<

Is everyone else a little scared of Black Knight Leader about now, and it's not just me?

In the words of Ron Weasley "You're brilliant, a little scarey, but brilliant" you know that right?

Is everyone else a little scared of Black Knight Leader about now, and it's not just me?

I'm more than a little concerned about his grasp on reality and the level of frothing nerd-rage that led him to whip out his encyclopedic two or three volumes of Star Wars books that were meant for entertainment rather than repairing starfighters, but I certainly wouldn't say I was scared.

It's just like his post on the Interceptor on Amazon, hillarious. Because some interceptors took out some un-named mooks in the movies he believes that Interceptors should have Heavy Laser Cannon level stats, maybe better.

It's a movie, they do what looks cool. If you were going to match the movies correctly all non-named pilots would have a single hull and all named ones would have at least 5.

Black Knight Leader, get out of the basement, go out into the sunshine and chill.

Sure, get mad at the guy who is using references and not at the guy whose entire argument is "you are wrong".

I know you're jealous that you don't have the time, resources, or knowledge but don't hate because he proved you wrong.

This is exactly what's wrong with these forums and most of the internet, people too busy hating rather than thinking.

Carry on Black Knight Leader! Show em up!

I'm not hating, I'm CONCERNED. I'm an Aspergers autist and even I know when to tone it down. D:

I'm not hating, I'm CONCERNED. I'm an Aspergers autist and even I know when to tone it down. D:

You're concerned that someone is using references to defend the statement that the cobbled together uglies could be as powerful or more powerful than that factory models? I'm concerned that so many people think this is a problem.

The fact that it was done in exactly the same tone as other posters use to dismiss others seems to be getting a reaction, as well as the thoroughness, which I appreciate rather than "No, you are wrong".

Tone it up! More lengthy and and informed discussion please!

Less, "you are wrong"... end of post...

...Wow dude, nerd rampage much? o__o

Nah its not nerd rage, I was trying to make it funny but most of the smiles had to be removed.

Given in how much detail Black Knight Leader reads those books and similar, I am sure he can tell us each and every single time that said quoted sources disagree with each other in any way, shape, or form. I mean I know of absolutely NO situations in SW:EU books/comics/associated source materials where there are disagreements or things that turn out later to be outright wrong. >_<

Nothin disagrees with the refrences I posted. If you got some refrences to disprove everything I wrote you are welcome to it write them.

Is everyone else a little scared of Black Knight Leader about now, and it's not just me?

In the words of Ron Weasley "You're brilliant, a little scarey, but brilliant" you know that right?

You should be scared. I made 7th place nation wide in SWBF2 out of 200,000 + on xbox with a TIE Interceptor, I am known as the red baron and I have changed the outcome in so many space battles even Sacouch69 has taken note to watch his 6 around me. If SWBF3 comes out it would be best to do the same.

Black Knight Leader, get out of the basement, go out into the sunshine and chill.

Two problems with your suggestion. 1 don't have a basement 2 I don't have a basement.

Given in how much detail Black Knight Leader reads those books and similar, I am sure he can tell us each and every single time that said quoted sources disagree with each other in any way, shape, or form. I mean I know of absolutely NO situations in SW:EU books/comics/associated source materials where there are disagreements or things that turn out later to be outright wrong. >_<

Nothin disagrees with the refrences I posted. If you got some refrences to disprove everything I wrote you are welcome to it write them.

Bilisknir watches as the target passes in front of Black Knight Leader's guns and he misses the point completely...

FWIW saying something is internally consistent doesn't make it any more true in the wider scope.

Very similar to him missing my point entirely. Just because something is reliable doesn't mean it wouldn't be nigh on impossible to fix if it goes wrong. The two are not connected. My taps are not reliable, the seal keeps going, but it's fairly easy to replace it. However a Pocketwatch could be very reliable and last years, but if it take damage it's nigh on impossible to fix.

It's just like his post on the Interceptor on Amazon, hillarious. Because some interceptors took out some un-named mooks in the movies he believes that Interceptors should have Heavy Laser Cannon level stats, maybe better.

It's a movie, they do what looks cool. If you were going to match the movies correctly all non-named pilots would have a single hull and all named ones would have at least 5.

If you have the complete blu-ray set you will see in the special features they did indeed make a chart with every ship on it and their capabilites. This was made to keep things consistant and help the FX people when making the scenes with the ships. So as far as them making up stuff as they go its not true.

We see in the movies Rebel pilots take more than one laser beam to be destroyed. Also I should point out that if the 9.3 is more powerful than what the other ties have and they can kill fighters with 4 laser beams like in ROTJ you have a problem with it destroying fighters with one beam? It is supposed to be more powerful.

I'm not hating, I'm CONCERNED. I'm an Aspergers autist and even I know when to tone it down. D:

I would have to question you having ether of the problems you say you have.

I'm not hating, I'm CONCERNED. I'm an Aspergers autist and even I know when to tone it down. D:

You're concerned that someone is using references to defend the statement that the cobbled together uglies could be as powerful or more powerful than that factory models? I'm concerned that so many people think this is a problem.

The fact that it was done in exactly the same tone as other posters use to dismiss others seems to be getting a reaction, as well as the thoroughness, which I appreciate rather than "No, you are wrong".

Tone it up! More lengthy and and informed discussion please!

Less, "you are wrong"... end of post...

Thanks

Wow....just...wow. Ok, I like Star Wars, great set of films (Original 3) But Black Knight, there is real life, then there is science fiction. It worries me your lack of grasp on the two. One has no reset button, one does. I suggest you put the X-box controller down, put the books away and go ride a bike outside. I mean this discussion started off about what ship should not be made. I personally had never heard of the sun crusher, ugly as hell mind. So nice to learn new things. It really does not have to be this serious.

People are missing points left right and center here. Beautiful to read, but still....It's not real. As a final point, Mr Rodent, perfect analogy on the watch.

Given in how much detail Black Knight Leader reads those books and similar, I am sure he can tell us each and every single time that said quoted sources disagree with each other in any way, shape, or form. I mean I know of absolutely NO situations in SW:EU books/comics/associated source materials where there are disagreements or things that turn out later to be outright wrong. >_<

Nothin disagrees with the refrences I posted. If you got some refrences to disprove everything I wrote you are welcome to it write them.

Bilisknir watches as the target passes in front of Black Knight Leader's guns and he misses the point completely...

FWIW saying something is internally consistent doesn't make it any more true in the wider scope.

Actully a book was written that is a guide to the SW universe comic stories. The guy who made it pointed out their was hardly ever a contradiction. Also I can tell their is no contradiction with th refrences I have because I can read them and see they don't conflict.

Do you got quotes or refrences showing otherwise?

Wow....just...wow. Ok, I like Star Wars, great set of films (Original 3) But Black Knight, there is real life, then there is science fiction. It worries me your lack of grasp on the two. One has no reset button, one does. I suggest you put the X-box controller down, put the books away and go ride a bike outside. I mean this discussion started off about what ship should not be made. I personally had never heard of the sun crusher, ugly as hell mind. So nice to learn new things. It really does not have to be this serious.

People are missing points left right and center here. Beautiful to read, but still....It's not real. As a final point, Mr Rodent, perfect analogy on the watch.

Ok this is rich. Give me all refrences that I have no grasp on reality? Since you know so much about me you should be able to write down everything I have done in my life.

You I can tell you what you are, you are a social chameleon. You have attacked because 1) You need to make yourself feel better, after all you have profiled me as a sterotypical gamer/syfy fan which is slanderious to begin with. 2) You have joined in this attack on me to boost your own standing with other users on this forum.

And most important of all you neglected to take note that another user insulted a bunch of us, you and some others said not one thing about that. It was a mistake of that other user to tell me I have no idea about anything involving the USN, Iran airforce, nor F-14s. I am pretty sure I am the only one hear that has been schooled by a Naval aviator.

So how about we talk about you getting your seamanship (basic civ) or some wings before we talk about riding bikes.

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The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter/keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

Move this around a bit and it would go.

An infinite amount of monkey's hitting keys at random on a typewriter/keyboard for a given amount of time would almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

This has proven to be false by the presence of the internet...And the above poster. Keep hitting those keys mate

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The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter/keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

Move this around a bit and it would go.

An infinite amount of monkey's hitting keys at random on a typewriter/keyboard for a given amount of time would almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

This has proven to be false by the presence of the internet...And the above poster. Keep hitting those keys mate

I said "Give me all refrences that I have no grasp on reality? Since you know so much about me you should be able to write down everything I have done in my life."

Agian I will point out you have not said one thing about the other user insulting other people on this forum, which gives me a good indication of who you really are.

You have anything more to say about it send it in a pm.

As far as minis are concerned I want them all in this game at one point or another. I am now done with this topic.

I want every ship to be in this game. I do have least favorites though. TIE Raptor, TIE Wing, Y-TIE, X-TIE, Zceptor.

the zceptor looks pretty ugly-awesome.

I want every ship to be in this game. I do have least favorites though. TIE Raptor, TIE Wing, Y-TIE, X-TIE, Zceptor.

the zceptor looks pretty ugly-awesome.

Indeed it does, need to make another couple of them.