If you "bump" into an enemy ship, I know you lose your action for that turn and can't target that ship but:

1 do you lose your action if it's a friendly ship you bump into??

2 If that ship was given a token (i.e focus) by another ships ability or any other way, can you still use that token??

Thanks for any help.

1) Yes, you still lose the action if you bump a friendly.

2) Yes, you may still use those tokens gained through other means, you just lose the action you would have gained them with.

By "bump" I assume you mean slight overlap. Overlapping cost you your action step of the activation phase and prohibits you from firing on the ship you overlapped (even if it is a friendly).

If you received a free action (Lando's pilot ability, Squad Leader) you can still take that free action (unless you have a stress token which prohibits taking any actions) and focus tokens or target lock tokens can be taken and used as passing a token is not an action so isn't stopped by overlap (nor stress token).

I thought a free action received from squad leader or Lando was allowed with a stress token. Was kinda the point...

I thought a free action received from squad leader or Lando was allowed with a stress token. Was kinda the point...

No. Pg 17 of the rulebook under stress.

Doh. Indeed you are correct. I had it in my mind having a stress token merely made you skip the perform action step. This makes more sense.

Thanks for the replies, thought that was how it is, but it's always worth making sure

Now I believe if you have someone like Dutch or Garven, who gives you a token , you can still spend the token, even when stressed. But that's because spending a token is different than taking an action (that gives you a token).

Dutch gives a ship within Range 1-2 to acquire a target lock, not give a token. Garven doesn't give tokens, he passes them instead of discarding. Important differences.

Well if you're being nitpicky, Garven "may place that token" on a friendly ship, not pass it.

And I'm not sure it is that important a difference to this discussion. My point was; Focus and Target Lock are both actions. You cannot take actions when stressed. Even if you had someone with Squad Leader, they could not give you a FREE action to Focus or Target lock while you were stressed.

But both Garven and Dutch allow you to make use of focus or target locks, even while stressed, because neither one of them makes any reference to it being an action. You can call it passing, acquiring, placing, hootenany, hoedown, shindig, whatever you like. My point stands: if you get a focus from Garven, you can spend that token even when stressed, and if you 'acquire' a target lock thanks to Dutch, you can spend that target lock (which, btw, does in fact place target lock tokens on the table) even if you are stressed.

You can quibble about the semantics if you want, but all I was trying to say is that those are two examples of being able to use the token end result of an action, and spend it, even when you're stressed and could not perform the action that normally grants those tokens itself.

Actually, Dutch's action is to take the TL action, his passing of the target lock is him passing the two tokens.

One very important distinction is that if it doesn't say "action" in a header or say's it is an action in the description writeup, then it is NOT an action.

Dutch passes tokens, not a free TL action. So you can get a TL, while stressed, from Dutch.

There was a whole bunch of threads from way back that looked at things that were like actions that were, in fact, not actions. Dutch's ability was centre stage for that discussion.

Another way to look at it was the FAQ revision regarding Barrel Roll action and Expert Handling. EH was FAQ'd to make the barrel roll in EH an action because without it you could barrel roll and use expert handling to barrel roll again (because EH was the action and barrel roll was the result of taking that action, so you could be doing Barrel roll and EH to move 2 barrel rolls over!)

Bumping into a ship does not mean you can't fire on that ship.

Bumping into a ship puts you in base contact with it and you can't fire on ships that are in base contact with you.

This means:

1. If you bump into a ship that has not moved yet this turn, it will probably move away later this turn, making it possible for you to shoot at it.

2. If an enemy ship bumps into you, and you are in base contact during the combat phase, you can't fire at it, even though he was the one bumping into you!