Jans ability

By Prevailing Winds, in X-Wing

My question is, is her ability always on?

can it be used on more than 1 other friendly?

Other cards say choose 1 other friendly ship or simular wording, but hers says "when another ship at range 1-3 is attacking-----allow that ship to roll 1 additional attack die.

any help appreciated

"When another friendly ship at Range 1-3 is attacking, if you have no stress tokens, you may receive 1 stress tocken to allow that ship to roll 1 additional attack die."

To me, there is no limit of times the skill can be used as it is not limited by a number e.g. once per turn.

THAT SAID...

You then get a stress token and so can't use it again that turn UNLESS you can get rid of it somehow!

As the game stands the stress token limits it to once a turn as the only way to currently shed stress is to make a green maneuver.

If that changes, then you could use it multiple times.

IF you could field Captain Yorr (shuttle) for example, he would facilitate multiple uses a turn.

Edited by Englishpete

Her ability is not always on, but can be used at any time. The big limiting factor is that it causes her to have a stress token and she can't use this ability if she has a stress token. If you could find some way to eliminate the stress token between shots, yes she could use it with multiple ships. You have to pay the cost for each attack, not once per turn if that's what you're asking.

According to the FAQ, even in a blended fleet with Captain Yorr on her side, she'd only be able to trigger once per attack. However, with a Yorr/Ors build, that's once on each ship other than herself, which is pretty friggen nice, and can be applied to secondary attacks.

page 17 of the rule book dosent say anything about stress stopping a pilot ability..

her ability reads "When another friendly ship at Range 1-3 is attacking, if you have no stress tokens, you may receive 1 stress token to allow that ship to roll 1 additional attack die."

So she has to not have a stress token before she can even think about activating her ability.

page 17 of the rule book dosent say anything about stress stopping a pilot ability..

Jan Ors' own ability does. "If you have no stress tokens..."

Yep and as the Rebs have no stress removal abilities it really is once per turn.

Yep and as the Rebs have no stress removal abilities it really is once per turn.

...Maybe that's what Princess Leia's card will do?

Yep and as the Rebs have no stress removal abilities it really is once per turn.

...Maybe that's what Princess Leia's card will do?

Princess Leia

4 Points

If the Imperials destroy Alderaan, you may completed forget about the destruction of all you know and love after a scene change. Also, once per turn, remove a stress token from a friendly ship.

I would say that even if you could pair Jan with Yorr it wouldnt work cos JAN NEVer recieves the stress

I would say that even if you could pair Jan with Yorr it wouldnt work cos JAN NEVer recieves the stress

Actually, you may be on to something there. If someone takes Ibtisam's stress, or Fel's stress, their abilities don't kick in because that requirement of taking a stress isn't met.

I would say that even if you could pair Jan with Yorr it wouldnt work cos JAN NEVer recieves the stress

Actually, you may be on to something there. If someone takes Ibtisam's stress, or Fel's stress, their abilities don't kick in because that requirement of taking a stress isn't met.

Ibis ability only triggers if you have a stress, not while reviving one

Yes, but if Yorr (theoretically) took that stress, Ibs would never have it, and her ability would not work. I'm not sure what your point is.

Actually, you may be on to something there.

Yeah I'd say that this from the FAQ would apply to Jan as well.

Q: If Soontir Fel would receive a stress token, but Captain Yorr receives it instead, does Soontir Fel’s ability still trigger?

A: No.

I would say that even if you could pair Jan with Yorr it wouldnt work cos JAN NEVer recieves the stress

Jan doesn't actually NEED the stress token to perform her pilot's ability, unlike Ibtisam or Soontir Fel. It's like the Elusiveness upgrade. The stress token is received (by Yorr, but still received), and she does her thing. Contrast this with Soontir Fel, who needs to get the stress himself to get the free focus token, or Ibtisam who gets her re-rolls if she has a stress on her....

Oh ok I see what you're saying there. Hmm. Interesting. I'll have to ponder that further.

Im probably wrong, don't have wording to hand but I thought, neither elusiveness nor opportunist triggered when Yorr took the stress.

Or is it that elusiveness works but may only ne used once? Due to faq

It makes a different if you

1. do something and pay for it by taking a stress token

or

2. you get a stress token and this triggering something. In this case the stress token is needed first.

As far as I know:

elusiveness and opportunist are not triggered by the token, as well as for jans ability. So DraconPyrothayan is right.

Soontir needs a stress token to get a focus token.

Opportunist can only be used once in a round, even if yorr takes the stress. The reason is that you can only use it during attack and you have only one attack !?!

Can Elusiveness be used every time you are attacked assuming there is a yorr next taking tokens?

We have to differentiate between abilities that only work when the user get the stress token, from abilities that cause you to get a stress token.

The way the are worded, Soontir and Ibtisam have abilities that only work when they get themselves a stress token. In the case of Soontir, the ability explicity says "When you recieve a stress token"... It doesn't say "You may recieve a stress token to...". In the case of ibtisam, the ability says "If you have at least 1 stress token". This wording makes clear that in order to use their abilities, they must take/have the token.

In contrast, other abilities cause you to get a stress token, but their effect is not directly tied to the adjudication/possesion of the token, thus, another ship (Yorr) can claim it, and the ability will still work. Those abilities usually have the expression "you may recieve a stress token to..." or something very similar. The prerequisite for those abilities is met just by 'generating' the stress token.

Thus, the way they are worded, Elusiveness, Jan Ors, Opportunist, etc... cause the ship to get a stress token, but for their effect to take place, it is irrelevant to where the stress token goes in the end. Just by generating it, you already met the requeriment to activate the ability.

Just to clarify a ship with elusiveness who was shot at more than once could use elusiveness more than once provided Yorr hadnt reached his max.

Side note, Yorr could also take the stress from recieving a stress from the crit card( don't have wording to hand) ?

Just to clarify a ship with elusiveness who was shot at more than once could use elusiveness more than once provided Yorr hadnt reached his max.

Side note, Yorr could also take the stress from recieving a stress from the crit card( don't have wording to hand) ?

Yes, a ship with elusiveness, can use its ability multiple times (but only once for each attack recieved) as long as Yorr keeps absorbing the stress tokens, up to his maximum capacity.

And I don't see anything special about the critical hit result "Thrust control Fire", so yes, Yorr could absorb that stress too without problems.

Thx

Soontir needs a stress token to get a focus token.

You and DraconPyrothayan are right. Soontir needs a stress for his power to work, Jan doesn't. So if she could remove the stress in the middle of combat, she could keep using her ability. Which would make her Very powerful depending on the cost of what it would take to remove stress.