Join special guest, Jay Little, this Monday on the Order 66 Podcast!

By GM Chris, in General Discussion

Get ready for a NEW episode of the Order 66 Podcast, this Monday Night! We welcome back to the show special guest, Jay Little, lead designer of the Edge of the Empire RPG. We'll be tackling a special listener request that any Star Wars GM should take to heart: how to run players successfully through a canon universe, and how to use the facets of character creation to keep them on track and engaged.

It's going to be an epic discussion - so be sure to catch it LIVE! The simulcast starts at 8:30pm CST, Monday, Nov. 25! Join us for the live show and chat with fellow listeners and guests:

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This would seem like a perfect opportunity to ask how and if Disney's acquisition of Star Wars is likely to affect the sources of fluff FFG will draw from going forwards (principally, just how dead is the old EU?), and, seeing that there is clear demand for it, are they are likely to produce a pro-Imperial game at any point.

... seeing that there is clear demand for it, are they are likely to produce a pro-Imperial game at any point.

Good grief man, are you for real? It's like watching a human spam bot.

I think you're giving him far too much credit.

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... seeing that there is clear demand for it, are they are likely to produce a pro-Imperial game at any point.

Good grief man, are you for real? It's like watching a human spam bot.

Knowing if they are going to be putting in fluff for playing imperial campaigns is a pretty good question, and one that a lot of players early on in the beta were asking.

Though, I think that has been addressed already. Someone let me know if it has.

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Your response made me curious enough to open his post. What I saw there were a few appropriately worded and relevant inquiries. Perhaps you're taking his posts a little too personally?

Not at all. I've ignored all the threads he's started, he's like a one-trick pony. So I see post I *am* interested in, and there he is, like a bad rash. I just can't believe he pollutes every thread he visits with the same garbage. Oh well, at least I know there is another Order 66 coming.

I'm keen to see if they bring out something relating to the Imperials. :) No big loss if not: can always run an Imperial story using AoR, albeit with Duty being centered on standing in the Empire rather than the Alliance.

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Your response made me curious enough to open his post. What I saw there were a few appropriately worded and relevant inquiries. Perhaps you're taking his posts a little too personally?

Not at all. I've ignored all the threads he's started, he's like a one-trick pony. So I see post I *am* interested in, and there he is, like a bad rash. I just can't believe he pollutes every thread he visits with the same garbage. Oh well, at least I know there is another Order 66 coming.

I'm just trying to point out that, if the same post were written by someone else, you might have had zero issue with it. If that's the case, then you're just focused on the writer rather than the message, and that would be taking it too personally.

Your response made me curious enough to open his post. What I saw there were a few appropriately worded and relevant inquiries. Perhaps you're taking his posts a little too personally?

Not at all. I've ignored all the threads he's started, he's like a one-trick pony. So I see post I *am* interested in, and there he is, like a bad rash. I just can't believe he pollutes every thread he visits with the same garbage. Oh well, at least I know there is another Order 66 coming.

I'm just trying to point out that, if the same post were written by someone else, you might have had zero issue with it. If that's the case, then you're just focused on the writer rather than the message, and that would be taking it too personally.

Come on happydaze.... Don't be that guy!

I'm just trying to point out that, if the same post were written by someone else, you might have had zero issue with it. If that's the case, then you're just focused on the writer rather than the message, and that would be taking it too personally.

You're right, it's about the messenger, though I don't know about "too personally". I guess I'm just baffled why some people have to inject their mania into everything. But here I am causing a stir, wasting time justifying myself, and ErikB is getting exactly what he wanted.

I don't listen to the order 66 podcast.

And as Waddo would say, Freeakin' Awesome!!

This would seem like a perfect opportunity to ask how and if Disney's acquisition of Star Wars is likely to affect the sources of fluff FFG will draw from going forwards (principally, just how dead is the old EU?), and, seeing that there is clear demand for it, are they are likely to produce a pro-Imperial game at any point.

Actually I think this has been asked before. FFG doesn't seem to answer questions like that. Jay might, but I seriously doubt it.

Actually I think this has been asked before. FFG doesn't seem to answer questions like that. Jay might, but I seriously doubt it.

You would be... correct! :)

Actually I think this has been asked before. FFG doesn't seem to answer questions like that. Jay might, but I seriously doubt it.

You would be... correct! :)

It never hurts to ask again.

As well as the whole "not able to discuss future plans that haven't already been publicly announced" thing.

I'm sure the FFG team has all sorts of plans for future source books, such as an AoR one that focuses on the Empire, but until such products are announced, they can't say a thing about them. That is unless they want to sacrifice a solid job by breaking the various NDAs involved in such projects, whether it be ones signed as a freelancer or the inferred one to not blab company secrets/plans that came with their FFG employment contract.

Reading the Beta book I get the feeling they won't do an Imperial book. It's very focused on being about the Rebels and the Empire as the 'bad guys'. I don't think it would be a bad thing, but I just get the feeling it doesn't fit the tone of what they're doing here (nothing to do with ErikB or Disney or whatever, it just seems to be FFG's theme here).

I don't think you'd really need a separate book anyway, as I can't see the careers would be much different for Imperial characters, and all the ships etc. are there anyway. Anyone wanting to play Imperials would already know the fluff or could look it up. I don't think you'd need FFG telling you how to do it, any more than I need them telling me how to run a non-canon SW game.

(And I'm absolutely positive that if they DID plan on doing this, they wouldn't say it in a podcast!)

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for these games to go with the POV of the movies anyway. EoE didn't have rules for running Hutts as PCs. You couldn't play PC orcs or skaven in Warhammer Fantasy RP3, and there won't be rules for playing Tyranids as PCs in the 40K FFG books or PC Dragons in D&D 4E. Nothing actually wrong with having a theme.

An Imperial Sourcebook would be an excellent item, provided it includes organizational information, rather than lots of cgen. It would need some cgen changes... the duty table would be more focused, and the gear would need to be revamped for active duty imperial troops.

Perhaps also a different recruit table or three. (Navy, IGC, ISB, Naval troopers on one; infantry, armor, and stormtrooper on a second; COMPNOR, BoSS, etc, on a third)

Reading the Beta book I get the feeling they won't do an Imperial book. It's very focused on being about the Rebels and the Empire as the 'bad guys'. I don't think it would be a bad thing, but I just get the feeling it doesn't fit the tone of what they're doing here (nothing to do with ErikB or Disney or whatever, it just seems to be FFG's theme here).

I don't think you'd really need a separate book anyway, as I can't see the careers would be much different for Imperial characters, and all the ships etc. are there anyway. Anyone wanting to play Imperials would already know the fluff or could look it up. I don't think you'd need FFG telling you how to do it, any more than I need them telling me how to run a non-canon SW game.

(And I'm absolutely positive that if they DID plan on doing this, they wouldn't say it in a podcast!)

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for these games to go with the POV of the movies anyway. EoE didn't have rules for running Hutts as PCs. You couldn't play PC orcs or skaven in Warhammer Fantasy RP3, and there won't be rules for playing Tyranids as PCs in the 40K FFG books or PC Dragons in D&D 4E. Nothing actually wrong with having a theme.

Having an Imperial source book doesn't necessarily mean it would allow for Imperial play though.

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Reading the Beta book I get the feeling they won't do an Imperial book. It's very focused on being about the Rebels and the Empire as the 'bad guys'. I don't think it would be a bad thing, but I just get the feeling it doesn't fit the tone of what they're doing here (nothing to do with ErikB or Disney or whatever, it just seems to be FFG's theme here).

I don't think you'd really need a separate book anyway, as I can't see the careers would be much different for Imperial characters, and all the ships etc. are there anyway. Anyone wanting to play Imperials would already know the fluff or could look it up. I don't think you'd need FFG telling you how to do it, any more than I need them telling me how to run a non-canon SW game.

(And I'm absolutely positive that if they DID plan on doing this, they wouldn't say it in a podcast!)

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for these games to go with the POV of the movies anyway. EoE didn't have rules for running Hutts as PCs. You couldn't play PC orcs or skaven in Warhammer Fantasy RP3, and there won't be rules for playing Tyranids as PCs in the 40K FFG books or PC Dragons in D&D 4E. Nothing actually wrong with having a theme.

Having an Imperial source book doesn't necessarily mean it would allow for Imperial play though.

The one area where WEG faltered badly was in not supporting Imperial PC's. And that's the SW system where it would have been easiest to do so.

Whatever one's opinion of playing the impies, WOTC did the tactically correct thing by supporting it. FFG could do quite well to support Impie PC's.

Reading the Beta book I get the feeling they won't do an Imperial book. It's very focused on being about the Rebels and the Empire as the 'bad guys'. I don't think it would be a bad thing, but I just get the feeling it doesn't fit the tone of what they're doing here (nothing to do with ErikB or Disney or whatever, it just seems to be FFG's theme here).

I don't think you'd really need a separate book anyway, as I can't see the careers would be much different for Imperial characters, and all the ships etc. are there anyway. Anyone wanting to play Imperials would already know the fluff or could look it up. I don't think you'd need FFG telling you how to do it, any more than I need them telling me how to run a non-canon SW game.

(And I'm absolutely positive that if they DID plan on doing this, they wouldn't say it in a podcast!)

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for these games to go with the POV of the movies anyway. EoE didn't have rules for running Hutts as PCs. You couldn't play PC orcs or skaven in Warhammer Fantasy RP3, and there won't be rules for playing Tyranids as PCs in the 40K FFG books or PC Dragons in D&D 4E. Nothing actually wrong with having a theme.

Having an Imperial source book doesn't necessarily mean it would allow for Imperial play though.

The book already allows for Imperial play though some of the options are certainly less Imperial-specific than they could be. A sourcebook that gives more info on Imperials will certainly increase the potential for Imperial-specific character options even if it doesn't come right out and offer a Stormtrooper career.

Reading the Beta book I get the feeling they won't do an Imperial book. It's very focused on being about the Rebels and the Empire as the 'bad guys'. I don't think it would be a bad thing, but I just get the feeling it doesn't fit the tone of what they're doing here (nothing to do with ErikB or Disney or whatever, it just seems to be FFG's theme here).

I don't think you'd really need a separate book anyway, as I can't see the careers would be much different for Imperial characters, and all the ships etc. are there anyway. Anyone wanting to play Imperials would already know the fluff or could look it up. I don't think you'd need FFG telling you how to do it, any more than I need them telling me how to run a non-canon SW game.

(And I'm absolutely positive that if they DID plan on doing this, they wouldn't say it in a podcast!)

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for these games to go with the POV of the movies anyway. EoE didn't have rules for running Hutts as PCs. You couldn't play PC orcs or skaven in Warhammer Fantasy RP3, and there won't be rules for playing Tyranids as PCs in the 40K FFG books or PC Dragons in D&D 4E. Nothing actually wrong with having a theme.

Having an Imperial source book doesn't necessarily mean it would allow for Imperial play though.

The one area where WEG faltered badly was in not supporting Imperial PC's. And that's the SW system where it would have been easiest to do so.

Whatever one's opinion of playing the impies, WOTC did the tactically correct thing by supporting it. FFG could do quite well to support Impie PC's.

Heroes & Rogues was the WEG product that supported Imperial characters.

Reading the Beta book I get the feeling they won't do an Imperial book. It's very focused on being about the Rebels and the Empire as the 'bad guys'. I don't think it would be a bad thing, but I just get the feeling it doesn't fit the tone of what they're doing here (nothing to do with ErikB or Disney or whatever, it just seems to be FFG's theme here).

I don't think you'd really need a separate book anyway, as I can't see the careers would be much different for Imperial characters, and all the ships etc. are there anyway. Anyone wanting to play Imperials would already know the fluff or could look it up. I don't think you'd need FFG telling you how to do it, any more than I need them telling me how to run a non-canon SW game.

(And I'm absolutely positive that if they DID plan on doing this, they wouldn't say it in a podcast!)

I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for these games to go with the POV of the movies anyway. EoE didn't have rules for running Hutts as PCs. You couldn't play PC orcs or skaven in Warhammer Fantasy RP3, and there won't be rules for playing Tyranids as PCs in the 40K FFG books or PC Dragons in D&D 4E. Nothing actually wrong with having a theme.

Having an Imperial source book doesn't necessarily mean it would allow for Imperial play though.

The book already allows for Imperial play though some of the options are certainly less Imperial-specific than they could be. A sourcebook that gives more info on Imperials will certainly increase the potential for Imperial-specific character options even if it doesn't come right out and offer a Stormtrooper career.

This doesn't mean it would have to outright suggest it.

Actually I think this has been asked before. FFG doesn't seem to answer questions like that. Jay might, but I seriously doubt it.

You would be... correct! :)

It never hurts to ask again.

Sure, if you want to waste time in the interview with the lead developer just to hear another: "Can't comment on that, as you are already aware of..."

I think we should come up with other questions, like the many that already exist for starship/capital ship combat, use of skills like Stealth as a manoeuvre or action, sneak attack solutions, stuff like that - and whatever else solid and answerable questions the community might have.

Amen, brother!