Seeing the Imperial Aces pack - which is essentially more Tie Interceptors - and several 'possible wave 4+' threads below led me to wonder what else you'd put in...

The key thing is finding pairs of ships with a theme, and not going too far off into the realms of obscure ships; people want the iconic things they recognise.

The only one I can think of is the Z-95 and the TIE Defender.

Sounds a bit odd, but my argument is that the Z-95 is a Rebel fighter which behaves like an Imperial one (low armament and swarmy), whilst the Defender is an Imperial fighter which behaves like a Rebel one (well laser-armed and shielded). They're also both two of the most-recognised designs which never turned up in the films.

Any other pairings people can think of?

Any other pairings people can think of?

The Z-94 and the TIE Locator

I think ships from the new rebels cartoon will be next, with the big ships and imperial aces filling the gap until then.

I'd love to see a rebel aces pack as well, your guess is as good as mine as to what goes in it though. Maybe a blue prototype A-wing and maybe a unique test pilot to go with it.

Sadly i dont think we'll get the most obvious X-wing repaint, Corran Horn's green Corsec X-Wing, as it comes from the new republic era.

Maybe the small ships are complete already for this game? So they are going to sell repaints. Next will be a Rebels aces set. Then maybe a Kath and a Krassis edition firespray - a Wookie Falkon and a Lando falcon right after the death star run ...

The Assault Gunboat is an option.

I played a lot (A LOT) of Tie Fighter on pc back in the day and the gunboat was a pretty decent imperial ship you got to fly in several missions. It had shields, missiles, ion cannons and a hyperdrive so basically a "rebel" type of ship when you compare it to the standard TIE range of fighters.

The problem with most of the EU ships are that my friends have never heard of them. I fear that could alienate them from the game. I am by far the biggest SW fan in my group so it's nice knowing that everyone else understand the basics just by having seen the movies. I only own one copy of the HWK-290 because of this. It is a nice-to-have for me but I prefer placing my money closer to the canon of the movies.

Sadly i dont think we'll get the most obvious X-wing repaint, Corran Horn's green Corsec X-Wing, as it comes from the new republic era.

It's possible, he was working as a investigator for Corsec before Soontir was forced to serve as a pilot. So he would have been flying his Green Corsec at the time even if it wasn't involved in the movies. Also the nice thing about that colour scheme is it's not unique it is the colour scheme used by multiple Corsec pilots so they could do Corran + other pilots in the set unlike a lot of the other repaints you could get.

outrider?

outrider?

YT-2400

The most famous example is the Outrider flown by Dash Rendar

The problem with most of the EU ships are that my friends have never heard of them. I fear that could alienate them from the game. I am by far the biggest SW fan in my group so it's nice knowing that everyone else understand the basics just by having seen the movies. I only own one copy of the HWK-290 because of this. It is a nice-to-have for me but I prefer placing my money closer to the canon of the movies.

That's my concern as well. The HWK is a good example of this - I played all the Dark Forces games and thought they were superb, but even then when they announced it was the ship from Jedi Knight I was "Is it?...[looks this up]...Oh....really. I did not know that." - it doesn't really intrude on your awareness because you never actually 'fly' it...

The Z-95 was suggested because it's the only other one I can think of which has been massively widespread in expanded universe media - computer games (Empire At War), Graphic Novels (More than I care to think of), Models (Lego!), you name it. Plus it visually fits really easily into the Star Wars aesthetic; you show the picture to someone who has seen the film and say "this is an older version of the X-Wing" and they'll see the resemblance immediately.

I suggested the Defender for the same reason - it's an ex X-Wing (or at least Tie Fighter) ship that seemed to pop up in a lot of media. I'm not sure if the Assault Gunboat made it out of X-Wing or not.

YT-2400 is an option - perhaps more to placate the people who feel acidic rage the moment someone suggests the existance of more than one 'falcon'.

I don't really think adding more ships that people don't know would hurt the game

Sure, they might sell less, but nothing is forcing you to use them if you don't want to.

I don't really think adding more ships that people don't know would hurt the game

Sure, they might sell less, but nothing is forcing you to use them if you don't want to.

Unless the "unknown" ships comes with that one add-on card that just makes you go Wow!

Given the nature and how long it takes to make a ship, I'm willing to bet there is at least one wave that will come out before they can make ships from the Rebels TV show. Also remember, they have said they have a ton Waves ideas, so the EU will be mined, as it has been in their other Star Wars games. And while Rebels will provide some new ships, I doubt it will be THAT many.

If the HWK is anything to go by, while the EU ships will sell less, it will sell fairly well. And I am certain that is why they went with such an obscure ship before some of the more well known EU ships for Wave 3. To test the waters before they do a full Wave of EU ships. And here's the thing, FFG has production to the point where they can expand the products offered. I am willing to bet every movie fighter will get an Aces/repaint pack. And we have the capital ships coming. There will be plenty of products for movie purists if they don't want to dip their toes into the all EU waves of the future.

And I've stopped guessing where FFG will go with Wave 4. Sure, there are some more well known ships they can do, but they have an uncanny ability to just mine obscure sources. While the more well known Outrider, Virago, TIE Defender, and Z-95 will be made, it is a question of when and what other curveballs FFG feels like throwing at us.

The thing about the rebels is they used what they could find. So its possible that ships from the prequels could have been used still. The ARC 170 is an awesome ship. The Radiant VII, while destroyed, could have been used by others all over the Galaxy.

Then theres the Hounds Tooth, Bossks ship, the IG 2000, Punishing One, Slave-2, and the mist Hunter.

Unless the "unknown" ships comes with that one add-on card that just makes you go Wow!

Depends on how you play. If you play casual, friendly games then those cards can be proxied easily enough.

Myself I'm still not sure if I'll get the transport or not. Depends on what all else it comes with. If the only thing I'd want it for is the cards then I may not bother.

If the HWK is anything to go by, while the EU ships will sell less, it will sell fairly well.

You can't really use the HWK as a fair measurement of how well EU stuff will sell. The HWK is a support ship, not a combat ship. Most people won't bother buying more then 1 because that's the most you can really use in a 100 or even 150 point list. You don't have many lists of 2 or more HWK's.

The amount of ships sold has more to do with the type of ship it is, then the fact that it's EU. Likewise if they release the Z95 and have it pointed so a 6-7 ship swarm can work for it. It may sell very well, but again not really be a good measurement of how popular EU stuff is with the playerbase.

TIE varriants will be pretty recognizable as what they are, other stuff not so much. But with most stuff are we not buying it because of its use in the game? After the wow its starwars bit we are looking for things which play well in the game? The shuttle is iconic but I am not going to buy a bunch because it is not justified in game terms, likewise something less familiar that works well be bought by people who play. It wast as if the Xwing PC games did badly because it included things we hadnt seen before. In many ways it almost seems as if most of the people here want to recapture some of that memory.

That is the exact reason why it is the perfect one to gauge interest. See how many an obscure ship, that doesn't have a major combat focus will sell. If sells well, which it looks like it did, then you can prepare larger orders. If it doesn't, you don't make as large an order on EU ships.

I'm not sure that the Z-95 was a rebel fighter. It was an Incom built fighter, but I think it was before the Incom made the X-wing and basically joined the Rebellion. I think the Z-95 would be more of an independet fighter. That being said, so is the YT-1300 and if you have to assign a faction to it, then it would definatly be the Rebellion.

I think I have read more speculation about the TIE Defender than any other ship. Really I could take it or leave it. It was designed originally for a computer game where some ships were just better in everyway than others. It was continued in a role-playing game where a super-fighter still had a place. But in this game I don't see a place for (or want) any super-fighters. I really despise super-units in other table top games, and what they do to the game.

I feel like if FF doesn't make it a superfighter then it probably won't be what most people want it to be.

I am sort of of two minds reguarding the Assultgunship. It looked cool in the 90's on a computer game, but I haven't seen a picture of one singe that compares to the other models we have. I think FF could probably make a model that looked cool, but they would have take some creative licence. As for it's role in the game, wouldn't it just be a TIE Bomber with shields. Unless you gave it a cannon upgrade, then it would be a HLC carrier. It would be okay, but it doesn't really excite me.

I would love to see a Rebel Aces. I would like to have a rouge squadron title (I don't really care what it does as long as it doesn't suck) I know there are already a lot of X-wing pilots, but I would still like more.

As for other ships, I would love to see more light freighters, I don't know all their names most of them are YT-something.

That is the exact reason why it is the perfect one to gauge interest.

That's a good point.

It was an Incom built fighter, but I think it was before the Incom made the X-wing and basically joined the Rebellion.

Actually the Z-95 dates back to the Galactic Republic, and was used in the Clone Wars.

It was an Incom built fighter, but I think it was before the Incom made the X-wing and basically joined the Rebellion.

Actually the Z-95 dates back to the Galactic Republic, and was used in the Clone Wars.

The one used in the clone wars (and seen in the TV show) is a far cry from the Z-95 most people who know the EU know. I hope if FFG makes the Z-95 they don't make the mistake of using he hideous "clone wars" version.

Does it seem likely that we'll eventually get "Pilot Packs" ? Expansions with new pilot cards, elite pilot skills, or weapon upgrades would be well worth my money. Especially for Tie-Fighters, X-Wings, or whatever it is that we already have enough models of.

This would also allow continued expansion without necessarily digging too far into the EU.

The one used in the clone wars (and seen in the TV show) is a far cry from the Z-95 most people who know the EU know.

The model isn't the point, the point is how hold the ship really is. Hrathen made a comment about the age of the ship, but didn't seem to be really sure. So I pointed out how hold the ship is.