Possible wave 4+ ships: T-wing interceptor

By TheRealStarkiller, in X-Wing

So besides the Z-95 Headhunter, which will be the rebels cheap swarm ship - more or less.

Now it seems there is only one ship left on the rebels side... the T-wing interceptor

Its a bit ugly, though - and I doubt it is a must-have ship in X-Wing miniatures game.

But its part of the UE.

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"The T-wing interceptor was an interceptor originally designed to replace the A-wing. ...

Like the A-wing, the T-wing was a light fast-response starfighter. The ship's speed was similar to a TIE Interceptor, but it also included hyperdrive capability. With shield and hull strength similar to that of the Z-95 Headhunter, this craft would not last long if it was hit accurately by even a medium-power salvo.

Maneuverability was another disappointment to its designers, as it was less maneuverable than the A-wing. As per the A-wing, weapons were light, with only dual laser cannons being fitted in order to maintain maneuverability. However, the T-wing's warhead load was equal to that of an X-wing, making it a good multi-role fighter in the hands of a competent pilot." - starwars.wikia.com

So, like the Z-95 Headhunter would be more or less the rebels TIE-Fighter,

the T-wing will be the rebels TIE-Interceptor ....

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3-3-3-1 TL, BR, E, F

Torpedo

Any thoughts?

So besides the Z-95 Headhunter, which will be the rebels cheap swarm ship - more or less.

Now it seems there is only one ship left on the rebels side... the T-wing interceptor

How do you get that the T-wing is the only rebel ship left? Are you looking at it only within the "Rebellion Era"? Even so, the rebellion used Cloakshape fighters, which are about as old as dirt (older than Z-95s IIRC).

And once you pass Rebellion era and push into New Republic Era you go into E-Wing and K-Wing territory (Mind you, I think the K-Wing is terrible).

I wouldn't base predictions on the EU, as most of it will be contradicted and overridden by the new movie trilogy.

The ship is ugly, and your rules are a bit overpowered. Sorry if that come off a bit harsh.

I'd honestly rather have repaints of the iconic ships from the films than generically designed stuff from the EU.

I wonder why the first posts are always the 'I'll kick your butt you maggot'-ones ...

To answer the question: Yes! I'm looking in the Rebellion Era only! And i really HOPE that FFG isnt mixing all decades and generations of spaceships and captains like wizkids does it with their Attack Wing!

But i must confess, the E-wing escort starfighter with a R7 droid slot would be a even more interesting contribution to the rebels then the T-wing.

Yea...it seems these forums are getting a bit more vicious in analyses of new ships. Politeness counts for alot!

I think they'll really have to go into the EU farther to get more ships (as in New Republic and Imperial Remnant) as they are nearly the same factions just with different governments...and they aren't too far removed from time to be overpowering.

As to the T-wing - wasn't it a rather suckish fighter? Didn't it have problem after problem and nobody wanted it over the A-wing? While i love the idea of more ships, id rather have the good ones so to speak, like E-wings, K-wings maybe, stuff like that. But still, if they plan on alot of unique ships, they'll have to do some that are sub-par quality with just cheap costs to justify using them.

T-wing

I think that the stats would be more

F: 2 (it says only 2 laser cannons like the x-wing)

A: 3

H: 2

S: 1

TL, BR, F, E

Torpedo slot

Cost? 14 points or so

Gives it a small advantage over the awing in that it's cheaper, but has 1 less shield, and barrel roll, and a torpedo instead of missile (which is arguably better). Slightly worse dial than the Interceptor, maybe White 2 Turn?

I wouldn't base predictions on the EU, as most of it will be contradicted and overridden by the new movie trilogy.

The ship is ugly, and your rules are a bit overpowered. Sorry if that come off a bit harsh.

I'd honestly rather have repaints of the iconic ships from the films than generically designed stuff from the EU.

there IS no new movie trillogy

I wouldn't base predictions on the EU, as most of it will be contradicted and overridden by the new movie trilogy.

The ship is ugly, and your rules are a bit overpowered. Sorry if that come off a bit harsh.

I'd honestly rather have repaints of the iconic ships from the films than generically designed stuff from the EU.

there IS no new movie trillogy

Yet, sadly.

Let me put it to you thus, until the movies come out, that which is canon, will remain canon. After the movies come out there will be much whinging as people try to figure out if their favorite EU stuff has just been rendered non-canon. Then there will be people who say that "Pre-Disney" is canon, just like there were people who said "Pre-tPM/AotC/RotS" is canon. Hell, I'm one of those people who refuses to call it anything other than "Star Wars" (Episode IV: a New Hope be damned).

And I didn't mean to be harsh, I was just pointing out that the limits have not been met yet.

There is also the prototype A-Wing called the R-22 Spearhead, but this has been covered by FFG as the "Prototype Pilot."

Then there is the H-60 Tempest, barely notable, think a weaker, older B-Wing

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/H-60_Tempest_bomber

Then (groan) the M-Wing from a comics one-shot

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/M-class_starfighter

And yet another ship from the X-Wing computer games, the R-41 starchaser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R-41_Starchaser

Is a L-Wing just a V-Wing someone has knocked over?

I am sure that we will only se garunteed ships in the future. What I mean is non-eu ships. The EU will get severely rewritten soon and I doubt highly that FFG will produce any of those ships. The Moldy crow was around before or during the OTrilogy so thats why the were made. I do not see any of the real only seen in EU ships even be considered especially since the new movies will be coming out.

There is a large difference between ignoring/rewriting stories and wiping things away. I'm shocked that people think that LFL/Disney are so incompetent and unwilling to mine the resources that exist that they won't let FFG mine whatever obscure source they want. Because obviously, that kind of thing is working for Star Trek (hint, sarcasm. Wizkids is making games off the old universe, even hitting up some of their crappy EU books, as well as still publishing their more "unified" post show EU books) We also have 1-2 waves before the new ships in Rebels will likely to get made. The EU will be mined.

Back on the topic, I kind of like the T-wing. I would like to see how FFG interprets it's design, since their models aren't limited to 90's PC graphics.

I like 2 Atk, 3 Agi, 3 Hull, 1 Shield for the stats, with Focus, Target Lock, and Boost, and a dial similar to an A-wing or Interceptor.

Edited by Sithborg

As to the T-wing - wasn't it a rather suckish fighter? Didn't it have problem after problem and nobody wanted it over the A-wing? While i love the idea of more ships, id rather have the good ones so to speak, like E-wings, K-wings maybe, stuff like that. But still, if they plan on alot of unique ships, they'll have to do some that are sub-par quality with just cheap costs to justify using them.

T-wing

I think that the stats would be more

F: 2 (it says only 2 laser cannons like the x-wing)

A: 3

H: 2

S: 1

TL, BR, F, E

Torpedo slot

Cost? 14 points or so

Gives it a small advantage over the awing in that it's cheaper, but has 1 less shield, and barrel roll, and a torpedo instead of missile (which is arguably better). Slightly worse dial than the Interceptor, maybe White 2 Turn?

I would actually say this is very close to what it should have, if you look at the stats of an A-wings shielding to this, you can see its about half so 1 shield, its hull value is very similar so 2 hull sounds about right. It only has 2 laser cannons like an A-wing, so 2 attack works, it does have torpedo launchers so I can see that. It has decent agility so about 3 agi is correct, I would say it wouldn't have barrel roll due to its less maneuverability to an A-wing so I would take that off, but possibly let it have boost (so it mirrors an A-wing pretty closely, though barrel roll would be nice to have for another rebel ship).

Now because it was fast like an interceptor I would let it have a 3 and 5 k-turn and 5 white speed straight, but since it was less maneuverable then an A-wing I could see it more of a mix between a tie and an interceptor. Then for points I could see it between 14-15 quite easily, though I see 15 more like it due to the fact that is has a torp slot and is a bit more maneuverable then the tie bomber. I think this would fit the swarm ability for rebels more then the headhunter due to the headhunter would just be a less cost and less damage producing X-wing but have about the same dial.

Edited by Hujoe Bigs

The T-Wing actually had 3 laser cannons - like the B-Wing - so attack value 3.

Source? Because Wookieepedia states it has 2 laser cannons, same firepower as the A-wing.

The T-Wing actually had 3 laser cannons - like the B-Wing - so attack value 3.

Actually they don't, in any form, in any game, they always had dual linked laser cannons. If you can show some where that it indeed does, please prove me wrong I'll believe you. The E-wing which looks very similar does though, but that was the spiritual successor of the X-Wing.

I for one would like a few T-wings to run. I liked to fly them in X-wing and think it would work well in the current system.

Oh well, yeah it was the E-wing with 3 cannons.

So only attack value 2 for the T-wing.

I do feel people obsess to much about the number of guns rather than the power output and rate of fire. I could have 2 flintlock pistols but I would lose in a fire fight to someone with a single assault rifle every time.

Edited by Rodent Mastermind

I do feel people obsess to much about the number of guns rather than the power output and rate of fire. I could have 2 flintlock pistols but I would lose in a fire fight to someone with a single assault rifle every time.

Actually the Slave I is equipped with dual rapid-fire cannons (its primary weapon with the secondary arc) wich counts as 4 cannons - just like the armament of an X-Wing ... so attack value of 3

I do feel people obsess to much about the number of guns rather than the power output and rate of fire. I could have 2 flintlock pistols but I would lose in a fire fight to someone with a single assault rifle every time.

Actually the Slave I is equipped with dual rapid-fire cannons (its primary weapon with the secondary arc) wich counts as 4 cannons - just like the armament of an X-Wing ... so attack value of 3

er... what's that got to do with the price of oranges. Just because quite often having 4 guns means firepower 3, doesn't mean that it's a rule. A ship could have a very powerful single gun with has a very high fire rate, and that could easily count as firepower 3.

I do feel people obsess to much about the number of guns rather than the power output and rate of fire. I could have 2 flintlock pistols but I would lose in a fire fight to someone with a single assault rifle every time.

Actually the Slave I is equipped with dual rapid-fire cannons (its primary weapon with the secondary arc) wich counts as 4 cannons - just like the armament of an X-Wing ... so attack value of 3

er... what's that got to do with the price of oranges. Just because quite often having 4 guns means firepower 3, doesn't mean that it's a rule. A ship could have a very powerful single gun with has a very high fire rate, and that could easily count as firepower 3.

Go for it, give us an example of such a weapon in the SW universe

Well the Heavy Laser Cannon, shows a single barrel and 'Cannon' singular... and that's Attack 4

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Edited by Rodent Mastermind

There is another one on the left side of the ship which isn't shown on the picture

There is another one on the left side of the ship which isn't shown on the picture

Even if that was the case (even though the card says Cannon not Cannons) that would still be 2 guns giving 4 Attack.

But ignoring that, the Y-Wing Ion Turret is 2 guns twin linked and that is Attack 3.

Edited by Rodent Mastermind

Yes because its heavy. Actually its 4- (the minus is for the malus)

And your point now is?

Yes because its heavy. Actually its 4- (the minus is for the malus)

And your point now is?

The same as it always was, that people seem to be too concerned with the number of lasers attached to a ship when working out it's Attack value, when other things like power of the laser and rate of fire are just as important.