2v2 rules questions

By Carist, in Star Wars: The Card Game - Rules Questions

We tried out the new 2v2 rules last night. It was a lot of fun, but a few rules questions came up while we were playing.

Hoth Operations

Type: Objective
Faction: Light Rebel Alliance
Hoth.
While you control more Hoth objectives than your opponent, each of your Speeder units gains edge (1).

The rules say when a card specifies "your opponent", you choose a single opponent when the effect resolves. When do I choose an opponent with a card like Hoth Operations, which has an ongoing effect, and can I change my choice at any time?

When a dark side player destroys an objective, the objective goes to his victory pile. What happens when I play Grand Moff Tarkin when my opponent's objective is one damage away from being destroyed? Tarkin didn't destroy it directly, and the rules only say the dark side gets to choose where the destroyed objective goes when it is destroyed by a light side player.

Hoth Survival Gear

Type: Enhancement
Cost: 0
Force Icons: 2
Faction: Light Rebel Alliance
Item.
Enhance a Character unit.
Enhanced unit gains +1 damage capacity for each Hoth objective you control.

My teammate plays this on one of my characters. Once the enhancement is played, does the card count how many Hoth objectives my teammate controls, or how many Hoth objectives I control?

Edited by Carist

1. The feedback received during testing from FFG was that for constants, the choice is made when checking whatever condition such a constant effect is checking. In the Hoth Ops example, it'd be when you're calcing your Edge value.

2. A character you controlled destroyed it, so you get it.

3. My view would be that the enhancement is still controlled by your teammate, so it's how many he controls.

Edited by PBrennan

I agree with #3. It doesn´t say extra HP for each friendly Hoth objective which would´ve been different.

I´m not liking this ¨your opponent¨ thing for the Hoth Ops objective at first glance. Say our DS team has a Hoth Navy deck paired with Sith control or so. Although one of the DS players is intentional knee deep in Hoth objectives, the Hoth Ops player can still pick on the guy with fewer Hoth objectives. Really cutting into my thematic view on the game, but that´s just my initial view on reading about it. I´m sure it´ll work out and there is a reason for it. Can´t wait to go back and reread the cards for epic 2v2 decks.

Hoth Ops (and most other "control more Hoth" LS effects) should be errated to check side against side rather than player against player.

3. My view would be that the enhancement is still controlled by your teammate, so it's how many he controls.

Yeah, DS enhancements that go on LS units are still controlled by the DS player, so the same principle should apply here.

We tried out the new 2v2 rules last night. It was a lot of fun, but a few rules questions came up while we were playing.

Hoth Operations

Type: Objective

Faction: Light Rebel Alliance

Hoth.

While you control more Hoth objectives than your opponent, each of your Speeder units gains edge (1).

The rules say when a card specifies "your opponent", you choose a single opponent when the effect resolves. When do I choose an opponent with a card like Hoth Operations, which has an ongoing effect, and can I change my choice at any time?

You choose your opponent when you make the attack.

Which is the opponent that you are attacking.

Which is the opponent sitting across from you.

There's no real reason you'd have to choose the opponent you were attacking/being attacked by with Hoth Ops. Perhaps that guy is also playing a Hoth deck but the other DS player isn't. You choose the other DS player and always get your Edge (1).

As far as when you choose an opponent for these constant abilities in general, I'm not really sure.

But I am stating my interpretation that the choice is made as you are making the attack and that the choice is by default the player you are attacking. Thus you cannot choose the other DS player as he is an ineligible choice, since you have already chosen

Edited by Nerdmeister

But I am stating my interpretation that the choice is made as you are making the attack and that the choice is by default the player you are attacking. Thus you cannot choose the other DS player as he is an ineligible choice, since you have already chosen

I don't have a good answer for the choice coming at the start of each engagement vs when the card enters play, but I definitely do not see any reason that it would be linked to the opponent that you're attacking/defending. What part of the rule saying you get to pick which opponent seems to be limited in this case to you?

Edge battle is something that you settle with the opponent whom you are attacking.

Either of you might have an extra card from the common reserve or an extra unit as per the assist rules.

In either case it is a matter of interpretation as to wether you can pick and choose in a case like this or if the choice is implied when you announce your attack.

I´ll submit a rules question and we can find out for sure.

Edited by Nerdmeister

Edge battle is something that you settle with the opponent whom you are attacking.

Either of you might have an extra card from the common reserve or an extra unit as per the assist rules.

In either case it is a matter of interpretation as to wether you can pick and choose in a case like this or if the choice is implied when you announce your attack.

I´ll submit a rules question and we can find out for sure.

Got an answer back from Nate:

You can check against any opponent of your choice at the time you would count the edge values on your speeders units; i.e., when the edge battle resolves.

Nate French
Senior LCG Designer
Fantasy Flight Games

Obviously not the answer I expected myself but I shall submit to the Lorekeeper of the SW rules.

Good. That's exactly what I said right back at the start.

Edited by PBrennan