So - from the FAQ, we know that cards that trigger without an action will have multiple copies of said card trigger... so lets say I've got a Han Solo who is rocking two weapons engineers.. How does this play out?

(Is this a correct read?)

Han solo chooses target lock -
Weapons Engineer 1 and 2 trigger.
Choose to resolve Weapons engineer one, gaining a target lock which triggers weapons engineer 2 again...

Resolve weapons engineer two, gaining a target lock which triggers weapons engineer 1 again ----- loop.

- Or in other words...

The weapons engineers trigger over and over and over again - though you'll only be able to keep 2 locks in the end (since you can only maintain 2)

Of course you have to follow each of the target locking rules - so you cant lock onto a ship

you're currently locked onto... Is this an overkill way to deal with Kagi?

Target lock (Kagi forces this to be him)

Weapons engineer 1 triggers - you can lock something other than kagi, because you can't have two locks on Kagi)

Weapons engineer 2 triggers - you now relock onto another ship that's not Kagi - because you can't lock onto kagi while he is already locked.

Now you are locked onto two ships, neither of which is Kagi!

Does that sound right?

(P.S. I know this is a very silly way to spend 6 points... and if the loop does work - FFG needs to either A errata it, or B never release something that gets a "bonus" when you lock onto something....(like "gain a focus token whenever a friendly ship target locks, not that we're likely to see such an ability)

IIRC, weapons engineer cannot stack. It reads "you may maintain 2 target locks" not one additional target lock. Since you can only ever maintain two, the second one would be a waste.

Edit: misread your post, you already knew this lol.

I'd interpret the "only one trigger per opportunity" ruling from the last FAQ so that each weapons engineer triggers only once. In addition to that, both weapons engineers trigger from the TL action, not from each other.

A weapons engineer allows you to lock onto two ships. I fail to see any effect the second engineer adds. You can still only lock onto two ships.

If you start the action with no lock on Kagi you have to lock onto him.

If you start the action with a lock on Kagi you can end up with two locks on other ships.

Nevertheless, the 2nd engineers has no effect. Other than 3 points.

I honestly don't know if this would work or not.

The wording on the triggered part of Weapons Engineer says you may lock onto 2 different ships . Does that mean you're going through the process once, but get to pick two targets? Or are you going through the process twice, locking on to one target each time? If it's the first, dvor is correct and they wouldn't start the harmonic. If the latter, they would.

It's pretty horrible wording that doesn't tell you how it actually resolves in the rules. Send it to FFG and wait for them to tell us how to play it

With two Weapon engineers triggering off of a TL action, you would have two target locks on two ships after you resolved the four target locks.

If you had Kagi and another ship you would have two locks, one on Kagi, one on the other ship.

If you had Kagi and two other ships, you would lock Kagi then ship A, second W.E. puts a lock onto ship B and 4th TL gets waisted (no non TL's targets). Then choose two TL's to maintain.

If you had Kagi and 3 or more ships, you would lock onto Kagi and ship A, lock onto Ship B and Ship C, then choose which of the two TL's you want to keep.

Remember, the Weapons Engineer gives the Ship 2 TL's (as per page 19 "Card Abilities") and it is not the W.E. that gets the two TL's (so 2 W.E. does not equate to 4 TL's maintained).

I honestly don't know if this would work or not.

The wording on the triggered part of Weapons Engineer says you may lock onto 2 different ships . Does that mean you're going through the process once, but get to pick two targets? Or are you going through the process twice, locking on to one target each time? If it's the first, dvor is correct and they wouldn't start the harmonic. If the latter, they would.

It's pretty horrible wording that doesn't tell you how it actually resolves in the rules. Send it to FFG and wait for them to tell us how to play it

I think they hate us by now.

Buhallin, you managed to get to the core of what I was asking with a much more understandable set of questions..

I sent FFG a simple query "I have 2 weapons engineers, how do they resolve when I take the target lock action?" so - i'll let you all know how it turns out.