Looking at the picture of the stand mount, it appears to be a mold problem. This is bad, because it means re-engineering the molds to take out the problem, which costs thousands of dollars to do. Not that they couldn't afford it, but it would mean pushing back Wave 4 and the Tantive IV and Transport sets until they can recoup the costs.

If you guys start heating up these models you will ruin them. Just get some super glue debonder and take the post out, clean everything and re-glue them.

Whatever you do, DON'T do that! CA debonder has acetone in it and will soften plastic and deform it, as well as take off paint, which is a bad thing around the thinly cast engine pieces that have ridge details. I also discovered when I tried this with my Y-wing that the CA debonder might not reach all the way down to the bottom of the post, which would make it nearly impossible to remove the peg without destroying the small alignment pin that interfaces with the ship model.

With the B-wing though, you can't rotate it the way you suggest, because it would end up causing a rotation along the X-axis when he wants to rotate it along the Z-axis.

Any idea on how i should fix my Tie Bomber mount? It's at an angle, and makes it look like my tie bomber is drunk......

It's the same here in the UK. One of my B-wings is fine, but the other has a definite twist to the left.

Hi Joe Boss Red Seven - I'm not sure if you understand the issue. The solution you proposed (de-bonding the peg, and re-gluing it) might work with all the rest of the X-Wing miniatures (or might cause more problems per the post that Millennium Falsehood made earlier in this thread).

However, since the B-Wing has a unique, J-shaped peg, your solution won't work. The actual problem is that the notch in the hole isn't perpendicular with the length of the J-shaped peg.

If I understand you correctly, what one would have to do is attach the J-shaped peg at an angle to the back of the B-Wing in order for the notch to end up facing forward, which, would likely be fragile and possibly unstable.

Well, I'm definitely contacting Fantasy Flight if my models have any such problems. We put too much money into this game to accept such deformities.

FFG needs to step up and start replacing these models, or issuing vouchers for new stands if that's where the problem resides.

Hi OldScribe2000 - the problem doesn't lie with the stands. If you place your B-Wing on the stands from some of your other ships, you'll see that the B-Wing still faces to the left.

Then, if you look carefully inside the peg attached to your B-Wing, you'll see the flat notch is not parallel with the front of the ship, but instead faces slightly to the left. That is the source of the problem.

Looking at the picture of the stand mount, it appears to be a mold problem. This is bad, because it means re-engineering the molds to take out the problem, which costs thousands of dollars to do. Not that they couldn't afford it, but it would mean pushing back Wave 4 and the Tantive IV and Transport sets until they can recoup the costs.

You know - the actual ship mold seems fine. The problem may lie with the mold for the J-shaped peg attached to the back of the B-Wing, which should be a much easier fix than re-doing the entire B-Wing.

On a related note, as obsessed as FFG appears to be with the quality of the X-Wing ship models, I almost find it hard to believe that so little attention was given to the pegs at the back of the B-Wings. I have to think they tested this too.

So - here's another question for the community:

Do we think there is any possibility that the J-peg's mold is correct, but this is somehow a production issue instead? Or, given the apparent wide-spread nature of this issue, is it more likely that the problem is with the mold?

I'm not an expert in this area, so I'm curious to know what the rest of the community thinks.

Yeah, I've see both my B-Wings and Bombers too. I didn't worry about it.

That's interesting that it doesn't bother you. I love these ships - they're so beautiful, but I can't stand it if they're not facing forward. Now, sometimes they're a little off, and you can twist the ship on the stand to straighten them out. My TIE fighters are like that, but they're easy to straighten out.

However, these B-Wings are SO off-kilter that twisting just isn't enough to overcome their misalignment. For me, it just drives me crazy.

But I think it's cool that it's not a big deal for you.

I did tell FFG about it but didn't ask for a replacement. They have had such great service otherwise I didn't want to bother them with this...

The are rotated by up to 30 degrees or so.

Yeah, I've see both my B-Wings and Bombers too. I didn't worry about it.

That's interesting that it doesn't bother you. I love these ships - they're so beautiful, but I can't stand it if they're not facing forward. Now, sometimes they're a little off, and you can twist the ship on the stand to straighten them out. My TIE fighters are like that, but they're easy to straighten out.

However, these B-Wings are SO off-kilter that twisting just isn't enough to overcome their misalignment. For me, it just drives me crazy.

But I think it's cool that it's not a big deal for you.

I did tell FFG about it but didn't ask for a replacement. They have had such great service otherwise I didn't want to bother them with this...

The are rotated by up to 30 degrees or so.

Wow - it's interesting how people value different things. To me, this is a very big deal.

If you guys start heating up these models you will ruin them. Just get some super glue debonder and take the post out, clean everything and re-glue them.

Hi Joe Boss Red Seven - I'm not sure if you understand the issue. The solution you proposed (de-bonding the peg, and re-gluing it) might work with all the rest of the X-Wing miniatures (or might cause more problems per the post that Millennium Falsehood made earlier in this thread).

However, since the B-Wing has a unique, J-shaped peg, your solution won't work. The actual problem is that the notch in the hole isn't perpendicular with the length of the J-shaped peg.

If I understand you correctly, what one would have to do is attach the J-shaped peg at an angle to the back of the B-Wing in order for the notch to end up facing forward, which, would likely be fragile and possibly unstable.

I have not gotten mine yet, but I would say that you can use the square peg just by placing it between the engines, and let them hold the pin in place. As for debonder in my experience you use a tiny amount, and most ABS Plastic should be fine. I am pretty sure that you are going to need to touch up the paint a bit no matter what you do.

If you guys start heating up these models you will ruin them. Just get some super glue debonder and take the post out, clean everything and re-glue them.

Hi Joe Boss Red Seven - I'm not sure if you understand the issue. The solution you proposed (de-bonding the peg, and re-gluing it) might work with all the rest of the X-Wing miniatures (or might cause more problems per the post that Millennium Falsehood made earlier in this thread).

However, since the B-Wing has a unique, J-shaped peg, your solution won't work. The actual problem is that the notch in the hole isn't perpendicular with the length of the J-shaped peg.

If I understand you correctly, what one would have to do is attach the J-shaped peg at an angle to the back of the B-Wing in order for the notch to end up facing forward, which, would likely be fragile and possibly unstable.

I have not gotten mine yet, but I would say that you can use the square peg just by placing it between the engines, and let them hold the pin in place. As for debonder in my experience you use a tiny amount, and most ABS Plastic should be fine. I am pretty sure that you are going to need to touch up the paint a bit no matter what you do.

I still think you're misunderstanding the issue. If you look at the images I posted on page 1, the problem is the notch is misaligned within the peg. Since the B-Wing has a J-shaped peg, there's not really anything you can do, unless you can somehow carve out a better shape inside the peg. I don't see how readjusting the position of the J-peg in the B-Wing will address the issue.

Maybe when you get your B-Wings it'll be clearer to you.

What I actually meant was that my first thought is to try heating and bending the J-stand itself. A bit of twist to it should fix the apparent problem, if not the actual root of the problem.

What I actually meant was that my first thought is to try heating and bending the J-stand itself. A bit of twist to it should fix the apparent problem, if not the actual root of the problem.

If you do happen to try this, I'd be curious to know if it worked for you. If it did, I'm sure many of us would be interested in seeing:

1. Before pictures

2. After pictures

3. The steps on how to repeat your fix

Maybe when you get your B-Wings it'll be clearer to you.

I was suggesting that you drill out the messed up pin and set your own pin into the hole.

You know - the actual ship mold seems fine. The problem may lie with the mold for the J-shaped peg attached to the back of the B-Wing, which should be a much easier fix than re-doing the entire B-Wing.

That was the mold I was referring to. It's not an easy fix, though. This sort of problem usually results in the need to spend many hours re-building the molds, because they're gang molds and likely have fifty of the mounts per sprue, and this is still quite expensive.

Maybe when you get your B-Wings it'll be clearer to you.

I was suggesting that you drill out the messed up pin and set your own pin into the hole.

Ah - ok. Now I see Well, I wish I had the tools and skills to do that. Unfortunately I don't. But if you happen to attempt this, I'd be curious in seeing the result.

You know - the actual ship mold seems fine. The problem may lie with the mold for the J-shaped peg attached to the back of the B-Wing, which should be a much easier fix than re-doing the entire B-Wing.

That was the mold I was referring to. It's not an easy fix, though. This sort of problem usually results in the need to spend many hours re-building the molds, because they're gang molds and likely have fifty of the mounts per sprue, and this is still quite expensive.

Well, shoot. Thanks for the clarification.

In any event, don't you think it's weird that something so potentially costly and unwanted wouldn't have been detected in some kind of quality assurance testing, before investing the time to build the molds? I can't imagine that if anyone at FFG knew about this beforehand that they would have wanted the molds built this way.

Considering this isn't an issue for all the B-wings (I have one with the odd angle and one just fine), I would say it is something that just slipped in somewhere. I'm fairly sure the allowances the factories have with the product are not super tight, since there is a bit of a variance in my other ships as well. And really, looking at the joint, it is really tough to tell how bad it would be on the model.

Considering this isn't an issue for all the B-wings (I have one with the odd angle and one just fine), I would say it is something that just slipped in somewhere. I'm fairly sure the allowances the factories have with the product are not super tight, since there is a bit of a variance in my other ships as well. And really, looking at the joint, it is really tough to tell how bad it would be on the model.

Well, you can see the images I posted on page 1. I think it makes the model look pretty crappy. I understand that some people are fine with the ship not facing forward, but for me it's a problem.

I will check mine tonight. If they are rotated, I think I will drill the D shape hole in the J peg attached to the B Wing and glue it to the regular peg so that it is straight. When the ship is off the base it will permanently have a long peg attached, but that doesn't seem too bad. the glued together peg will probably be a little fogged. If I do this, I will post results.

Pete

I will check mine tonight. If they are rotated, I think I will drill the D shape hole in the J peg attached to the B Wing and glue it to the regular peg so that it is straight. When the ship is off the base it will permanently have a long peg attached, but that doesn't seem too bad. the glued together peg will probably be a little fogged. If I do this, I will post results.

Pete

I'll be interested to see the result.

One of my B-wings has this same issue. But I fixed it. I cut it off carefully and glued it back on with some green stuff to hold it and make it straight.

One of my B-wings has this same issue. But I fixed it. I cut it off carefully and glued it back on with some green stuff to hold it and make it straight.

What did you cut exactly? Can you post some pictures?

I went with the easy fix.

My fix, since I truely hate the straight vertical positioning they went with is to pull the ped from the back of the ship, cut it flush, and drill it in at an angle under one of the wings. This gives the ship an angeled flight look, and keeps everything from sticking out at random angles. Going to have to fix the cockpits though.

I went with the easy fix.

...easy he says.

By the way, is this 1MM or 2MM dia brass rod?