Heavy Laser Cannon + Mercenary Copilot, Re-rolling

By Darth Landy, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Just want to make sure: if I have the Firespray with Heavy Laser Cannon and Mercenary Copilot, the cannon immediately changes criticals to regular hits, but then the Mercenary can change one back correct?

Also with card text that allows rerolling, is there a limit? Like if two cards allow me to reroll attack dice for a ship, can I use both or can each die only be rerolled once?

Thanks!

Correct, HLC changes all critical results to hits, but anything that rerolls or modifies them into crits is fair game.

However, while I'm not motivated enough to go dig out the page number or something at the moment, I believe each die can only be rerolled once per whatever. So if you reroll your misses with a Target Lock, you can't then turn around and use Han or somebody to reroll those particular dice again.

Correct on the HLC - changing the dice after the initial roll doesn't trigger the ability, so you keep any crits. The recent FAQ "clarified" that this includes rerolls. (I scare-quote clarified because I think making a reroll not be a roll is anything but clear, but that's personal :) )

Which brings us neatly to your second question. Any given die can only be rerolled once (bottom of page 12). You can use multiple abilities that let you reroll, they just can't work on the same dice. For instance, Krassis firing an HLC could use his ability to reroll Die 2, and Jonus would let you reoll Die 3 and 4, but not 2 again.

Thanks man! I thought I saw that rerolling rule somewhere, too but couldn't locate it. Then again, I'm really, really tired right now. lol

Yeah, I'll grant, calling a re-roll a "dice modification," but not an actual "roll" of the dice is a little mind-bending.
I get where they're coming from but it's another one where it seems like there had to be a more concise, clear, elegant way to handle the ruling. When is a roll not a roll? When it's a REroll. :blink:

Wait, are you saying a reroll is a "modification"? Does that mean you can't reroll and then spend a Focus token to change the focus symbols to hits?

Yes to the first, no to the second. You cannot REROLL dice more than once each, but you are allowed to MODIFY (in ways other than multiple rerolls) dice multiple times. You can miss, spend a TL to reroll, then use a focus to convert eyeballs.

Ah perfect, thanks!

I was trying to think of an example of how you could reroll, convert some to eyeballs using something, THEN spend a focus to convert those to hits, but was drawing a blank on the middle bit.

Advanced Proton Torpedo?

Edited by Gullwind

I thought about that. Hmm wonder if you could roll, REroll, THEN use APTs effect.

I thought about that. Hmm wonder if you could roll, REroll, THEN use APTs effect.

Certainly. Assuming you have multiple effects to work with, you can apply them in any order you choose.

I thought about that. Hmm wonder if you could roll, REroll, THEN use APTs effect.

Certainly. Assuming you have multiple effects to work with, you can apply them in any order you choose.

I thought about that. Hmm wonder if you could roll, REroll, THEN use APTs effect.

Certainly. Assuming you have multiple effects to work with, you can apply them in any order you choose.

Wait!!! You can use APT after the reroll? How does this work?

Could you use it after the roll, reroll some and use it again?

The APT allows you to change up to 3 blanks into eyes, done, which can then be modified with a focus token.

As Buhallin points out, with multiple effects you choose when this happens.

I knew I was too tired to come up with a good example, but was sure some existed.

So yeah, if you had ugh, ok I guess for this example you'd need an APT, a Target Lock, Deadeye, and 2 focus (say Garven or Kyle passed one your way).

You could spend a focus to fire the APT. Five blanks.

Spend your target lock to reroll. 1 crit, 2 eyeballs, 2 blanks.

Use the APT ability to change the 2 blanks to eyeballs. 1 crit, 4 eyeballs.

Then spend your second focus to change the eyeballs all to hits.

I think I got that right anyway.