Theories on Rebel Counterpart to Imperial Aces ???

By GFulls, in X-Wing

The problem with doing Corran is that his green x-wing is unique

Not really. It's painted in CorSec colors. While unique in the Rebel Fleet, it's not the ONLY ship in the galaxy to be painted that way. Toss in a couple generic CorSec pilots and it's not a fluff problem.

Generic corsec pilots would be imperial or a new faction that would be unlikely to align with the rebel alliance.

I'm not saying I think they WILL do a CorSec paint job on it, necessarily, but I think if they do and you refuse to use it with anyone but Corran, that's purely your own hang-up. :D

No problem with how my opponents use their own toys though; use red, striped or plain interceptors as you see fit!

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I get where you guys are coming from, conceptually, but I don't think most people would sweat it. It's weird for R2-D2 to be on anyone else's ship, but eh, he's a game piece and is useful for a number of pilots.

Maybe Luke rents him out when he's not using him. I mean, being a hotshot Rebel ace pilot who broke the Empire's biggest toy is all fame and glory... but the pay is lousy. Think the Alliance is raking in the credits? Luke is probably making less money now than he did on the farm...

I get where you guys are coming from, conceptually, but I don't think most people would sweat it. It's weird for R2-D2 to be on anyone else's ship, but eh, he's a game piece and is useful for a number of pilots.

Maybe Luke rents him out when he's not using him. I mean, being a hotshot Rebel ace pilot who broke the Empire's biggest toy is all fame and glory... but the pay is lousy. Think the Alliance is raking in the credits? Luke is probably making less money now than he did on the farm...

So what you're saying is, Luke is Pimping out R2 so he can make a few credits on the side to pay for his Drug habit?

Death sticks don't pay for themselves.

I get where you guys are coming from, conceptually, but I don't think most people would sweat it. It's weird for R2-D2 to be on anyone else's ship, but eh, he's a game piece and is useful for a number of pilots. It's weird the Green Squadron A-Wings are red. I'm sure if we get Corran we'll get Whistler, and undoubtedly his ability will be useful for (and used with) pilots other than just Horn. I'm sure some people will just like the red interceptors and use them with guys like Fel and whoever, even if it doesn't make a lot of sense lore-wise.

I'm not saying I think they WILL do a CorSec paint job on it, necessarily, but I think if they do and you refuse to use it with anyone but Corran, that's purely your own hang-up. :D

Green squadron is painted red because they could not use green in filming.

And here I thought the color coded squadron names were purely for tactical purposes... Hence why Rogue Squadron is at Hoth, but suddenly called Red Squadron at Endor.

Give me some better R2 units.

Fire control system is way better then anything the R2 units.

keep in mind droids are rebel only

It is a rebel aces kit

Rogue Squadron's roster of note (Not all pilots served concurrently)

- Wedge Antilles

- Tycho Celchu

- Hobbie Klivian

- Wes Janson

- Riv Shiel

- Ooryl Qrygg

- Corran Horn

- Erisi Dlarit

- Bror Jace

- Nawara Ven

- Rhystati Ynr

- Gavin Darklighter

- Asyr Sei'lar

- Aril Nunb

- Pash Cracken

- Kasan Moor

Other pilots also served with the squadron, but many of these pilots had the highest survival rate. Oh, and i bet that last one is out of left field for MANY people.

A major trouble with X-Wing pilots is that much of the attention concerning them is focused on Rogue Squadron, mostly because in much of the EU it is established that Rogue Squadron becomes as much a symbol of the rebellion as it is a fighting unit.

Other notable A-Wing pilots they could throw in also include Pash Cracken, that's what happens when you go from leading A-Wings to flying for the Rogues to going BACK to leading A-Wings. Horton Salm as a B-Wing pilot would not be out of the question either since defender wing switched over to B-Wings when the craft became more prominently available.

A lot of good point have been made. I could see a rebel ace counter part being made up of X-wings like the games namesake, but part of me thinks that it won't be because of the alt X-wing that is going to come out with the Rebel Transport. That X-wing is going to come with 2 unique pilots Jek Porkins and Wes Janson. FFG in naming these pilots eluded to the fact that Wes Janson is a "Rebel ace". See the caption under the Rebel Transport picture on this post. http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4312

I kind of think that it might be the A-wing because it came out in the same wave as the Interceptor and it kind of has a parity (speed, maneuverability, hull and shield totals) with it too.

It could very well be the Y-wing too, they could even do a new model that has the coverings. Even though you never see a Y-wing with coverings in any of the movies, it is known that the Y-wing was an old ship during the first attack on the Death Star and used to look different. So there is potential for an alt Y-wing model, not just paint job.

BTL-B_Y-wing_fighter.jpg

I think a lot of people are counting out a B-wing Ace squad, even myself. It just came out and it doesn't need a refresher just yet. But it could happen later. Something to think about.

It could very well be the Y-wing too, they could even do a new model that has the coverings. Even though you never see a Y-wing with coverings in any of the movies, it is known that the Y-wing was an old ship during the first attack on the Death Star and used to look different. So there is potential for an alt Y-wing model, not just paint job.

BTL-B_Y-wing_fighter.jpg

I think a lot of people are counting out a B-wing Ace squad, even myself. It just came out and it doesn't need a refresher just yet. But it could happen later. Something to think about.

this i am in the process of making :) (1 year old daughter takes up most of my time... so its slow work :))

im even more determined to do it since getting the clone wars seasons (i know...... but i just got round to them :)), and ani leading his squad of bombers against grievous' prototype ship.

id love to see more A wing love too.... my single A is green (10 min job) and the next one i get will also be green....

Possibly Corran Horn. Maybe Rogue Squadron. Probably force powers...

Rogue Squadron, no question about it. Corran Horn is a must for any deck of cards in this game.

It could very well be the Y-wing too, they could even do a new model that has the coverings. Even though you never see a Y-wing with coverings in any of the movies, it is known that the Y-wing was an old ship during the first attack on the Death Star and used to look different. So there is potential for an alt Y-wing model, not just paint job.

BTL-B_Y-wing_fighter.jpg

I think a lot of people are counting out a B-wing Ace squad, even myself. It just came out and it doesn't need a refresher just yet. But it could happen later. Something to think about.

this i am in the process of making :) (1 year old daughter takes up most of my time... so its slow work :))

im even more determined to do it since getting the clone wars seasons (i know...... but i just got round to them :)), and ani leading his squad of bombers against grievous' prototype ship.

id love to see more A wing love too.... my single A is green (10 min job) and the next one i get will also be green....

Very cool. I've been wanting to repaint some A-wings, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

After thinking about this for a couple more minutes. I think that it'll be either the A-wing or the Y-wing that will have Aces. The reason why is that the X-wing comes with the core set, you can buy it in a single expansion pack, and soon you'll be able to get it with the capital ships. Each way you buy it it comes with unique pilots and upgrades. The A-wing and Y-wing do not have the depth of pilots to choose from that the X-wing has, they need the refresher most.

It could very well be the Y-wing too, they could even do a new model that has the coverings. Even though you never see a Y-wing with coverings in any of the movies, it is known that the Y-wing was an old ship during the first attack on the Death Star and used to look different. So there is potential for an alt Y-wing model, not just paint job.

BTL-B_Y-wing_fighter.jpg

I think a lot of people are counting out a B-wing Ace squad, even myself. It just came out and it doesn't need a refresher just yet. But it could happen later. Something to think about.

this i am in the process of making :) (1 year old daughter takes up most of my time... so its slow work :))

im even more determined to do it since getting the clone wars seasons (i know...... but i just got round to them :)), and ani leading his squad of bombers against grievous' prototype ship.

id love to see more A wing love too.... my single A is green (10 min job) and the next one i get will also be green....

I kinda prefer this hull plated version

Original_Y-wing.jpg

I think a Rogue Box would be neat. Heck, why not a Wraith Squadron box? There's some ideas out there that will work.

The Rebel Transport comes with 4 X-wing pilots- Wes Janson, Porkins, and likely 2 generics, possibly Rogue and Renegade Flight X-wings.

Imperial Aces box is 2 fighters with 8 pilots, 4 of the unique. Options for named pilots:

X-Wing

Commander Narra

Hobbie Klivan

Tycho

Ru Murleen

Y-Wing

Keyan Farlander

Tiree

Pops

A-Wing

General Crespin

Pash Cracken

B-Wing

General Salm

Keyan Farlander

Commander Pollard

Nera Dantels

Merrick Simms

Edited by MajorWesJanson

Any Y-wing with a hero ability slot... please...

Edited by Hush

The Rebel Transport comes with 4 X-wing pilots- Wes Janson, Porkins, and likely 2 generics, possibly Rogue and Renegade Flight X-wings.

Imperial Aces box is 2 fighters with 8 pilots, 4 of the unique. Options for named pilots:

X-Wing

Commander Narra

Hobbie Klivan

Tycho

Ru Murleen

Y-Wing

Keyan Farlander

Tiree

Pops

A-Wing

General Crespin

Pash Cracken

B-Wing

General Salm

Keyan Farlander

Commander Pollard

Nera Dantels

Merrick Simms

What, no Corran Horn?

I was guessing it would be two X-Wings... However, I would vote for 2 different ships (ie a Y and A Wing).

Though I'm not sure we will see a Rebel Aces very soon. I think it might be to give the Imperials something, as we have 2 big rebel ships coming out early next year with new pilot cards.

Though I'm not sure we will see a Rebel Aces very soon. I think it might be to give the Imperials something, as we have 2 big rebel ships coming out early next year with new pilot cards.

Who says we won't see imperial ships like the huge ships?

I was guessing it would be two X-Wings... However, I would vote for 2 different ships (ie a Y and A Wing).

I want 2 x-wings, then 2 Y-wings, Then 2 A-wings, Then 2 B-wings.

Edited by Daeglan

Making Rebel players crap their pants, give the Empire as their "big" ships either the Strike Cruiser or a Carrack, and as a second, the real trouser-browner, a Lancer-class Frigate.

lets just think about possibilities for ship reprints/repaints for rebels...

x-wing

y-wing

a-wing

falcon

as mentioned earlier here we r already getting an x-wing reprint in the nxt lrg ship expansion

i dont think theyd do a falcon reprint (would they?) although id be interested to see some new gunner/crew upgrades (but these would of course help the imperials unless they were rebel only crew/upgrades)

i do think the y-wing is in need of mods/upgrades/pilot skill slot, thats where i hope they go. esp with the soon to be release HWK-290 the y-wing needs something to get it onto the table more.

I also think the a-wing is sorely lacking upgrades/pilots to make it really worth the points.

so i guess im hoping they give us a rebel aces pack with...

1x A-Wing (new pilots and possibly a title card... perhaps something that boosts the firepower on the A-Wing if only temporarily)

1x Y-Wing (with new pilots, with at least two that have pilot skill slots and maybe with a title card specific to the Y-Wing that improves it in some new way)

with new upgrades

so i guess im hoping they give us a rebel aces pack with...

1x A-Wing (new pilots and possibly a title card... perhaps something that boosts the firepower on the A-Wing if only temporarily)

1x Y-Wing (with new pilots, with at least two that have pilot skill slots and maybe with a title card specific to the Y-Wing that improves it in some new way)

with new upgrades

Yeah, I guess there are no rules about the ships being the same. It would be really cool to see both the A-wing and Y-wing together.